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1646023728 M * Bertl_oO  off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1646023729 N * Bertl_oO Bertl_zZ
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1646040376 M * yang ok , so I am trying to upgrade "main host" system to debian bullseye from buster
1646040413 M * yang like AlexanderS mentioned it should work with sysvinit ?
1646054019 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1646054022 M * Bertl  morning folks!
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1646076242 M * yang Good evening Bertl 
1646077109 M * Bertl hey yang! how's going?
1646077393 M * Guy- yang: yes, runit; it's very unix-y (a number of small components that each do one job and do it well)
1646077419 M * Guy- yang: it doesn't have a large central component like systemd or even sysvinit; I think it's perfect for containers, but ymmv
1646077480 M * Guy- yang: I could give you a 90-minute university lecture about it :)
1646077534 M * Guy- yang: if you use debian or devuan, you have to install the runit-init package to get runit as init (you can do this while chrooted into your guest's rootfs)
1646077642 M * yang Guy-: do you have a recording of the lecture, so you don't need to repeat for me ?
1646077671 M * yang Bertl: just lots of work
1646077723 M * Guy- yang: no, but I have semi-detailed lecture notes in Hungarian; deepl.com might be able to translate them usefully, let me check
1646077868 M * Guy- yang: yep, deepl.com does a fair job of translating http://unixlinux.tmit.bme.hu/A_runit_m%C5%B1k%C3%B6d%C3%A9se (you have to copy and paste the text piece-wise)
1646077907 M * Guy- the lecture notes were written before the current debian packages emerged, but the big picture is completely valid
1646078118 M * Guy- yang: there's a ton of material in English about runit, of course; where I think my lecture notes shine (even if I say so myself) is that they follow a top-down approach, so that you get a birds-eye view first
1646078228 M * Guy- if you have questions about it, ask away, I really don't mind (my reaction time may not be stellar, though)
1646078726 M * yang ok Guy- thanks, I'll have a read, when I manage to find some time...
1646079384 M * Bertl  off for now ... bbl
1646079385 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ