1596672318 M * gnarface they mean for routing 1596672341 M * gnarface this is if you are the NAT router 1596672407 M * gnarface i dunno, maybe you want that one 1596672458 M * gnarface NF is only one of them though 1596672470 M * emanuel well my server may be a router for my vservers 1596672486 M * gnarface so you might want to use this, or you might want to use the older one iptables 1596672501 M * gnarface it wouldn't hurt anything to enable 1596672524 M * gnarface but you might still end up not using it 1596672539 M * emanuel what's the difference to iptables 1596672558 M * gnarface i don't know specifics but nf is the new one 1596672563 M * gnarface nf for netfilter i think 1596672589 M * gnarface the config syntax is similar but enhanced a bit, some people like it more 1596672591 M * gnarface some people don't 1596672600 M * gnarface i think it has some new features but nothing you really need 1596672716 M * emanuel okay I'll enable it 1596673007 M * emanuel Include in-kernel firmware blobs in kernel binary (FIRMWARE_IN_KERNEL) [Y/n/?] (NEW) 1596673104 M * gnarface hmmmm 1596673112 M * gnarface pretty sure you want that one 1596673125 M * gnarface i'm wondering if ? will show you the extended description 1596673160 M * gnarface you would only disable that one if you knew you didn't need or want any of that firmware 1596673187 M * emanuel pretty sure I don't want that one if it will work without it 1596673209 M * gnarface true, but i think that might count some intel video cards 1596673214 M * gnarface not sure 1596673276 M * gnarface heh, i guess you'll probably find out if you need it either way 1596673288 M * gnarface but i'd recommend looking up your hardware to find out 1596673289 M * emanuel i dont have any graphics card in my server 1596673298 M * gnarface hmm, i suppose it probably doesn't have wifi either 1596673311 M * emanuel it doesn't 1596673312 M * gnarface hmm, maybe it won't actually need it then, i'm not sure 1596673365 M * emanuel however it does have an Intel processor 1596673390 M * gnarface i honestly don't know what all is in there 1596673722 M * emanuel two wd red hdds, one sandisk ssd, an Intel Core i3, two Kingston 8 GB ramdisks and an Asus mainboard 1596673979 M * gnarface well 1596673985 M * gnarface you could try it both ways 1596674049 M * gnarface or you could just look up what firmware it's talking about 1596674058 M * gnarface there's gotta be a list somewhere, i just don't know where 1596674060 M * gnarface maybe kernel.org 1596674117 M * emanuel Virtual Root device support (BLK_DEV_VROOT) [N/m/y/?] (NEW) 1596674134 M * gnarface dunno 1596674180 M * gnarface hmmm 1596674193 M * gnarface that one actually might be a linux-vserver option 1596674236 M * gnarface try ? to see 1596674287 M * emanuel already hit enter 1596674316 M * gnarface oh, well the config is a text file so you can change it manually afterwards if you need to 1596674324 M * gnarface i think that one you might have actually wanted to enable though 1596674328 M * gnarface i never do it this way 1596674502 M * gnarface the vserver options are all in one sub-menu in menuconfig 1596674759 M * emanuel NTFS file system support (NTFS_FS) [N/m/y/?] (NEW) 1596674815 M * gnarface that's for windows 1596675006 M * emanuel well many hard disks are formatted NTFS and if I have to copy anyting from there ... it just seems a bit essential ... is it a binary blob? 1596675027 M * gnarface no, it's a reverse-engineered monstrosity actually 1596675052 M * gnarface safe to mark it "m" in case you need it one day ("m" for module) 1596675065 M * gnarface that way it won't wear you down when you're not using it 1596675080 M * gnarface y builds it into the kernel 1596675082 M * gnarface m makes it a module 1596675104 M * gnarface filesystems are generally good to include as modules 1596675131 M * emanuel i know. why isn't it marked m by default 1596675142 M * gnarface because it's for windows 1596675174 M * gnarface and it's a crappy filesystem anyway 1596675177 M * gnarface lol 1596675216 M * emanuel if it's reverse egineered 1596675244 M * gnarface support quality may be dubious, yes 1596675256 M * gnarface you wouldn't want to use it by choice 1596675295 M * emanuel NTFS write support (NTFS_RW) [N/y/?] (NEW) 1596675321 M * gnarface hmm, it was experimental for a long time... 1596675327 M * gnarface risky though 1596675341 M * gnarface well, riskier than read-only support anyway 1596675825 M * emanuel SMB2 and SMB3 network file system support (CIFS_SMB2) [N/y/?] (NEW) 1596675852 M * gnarface more windows stuff 1596675855 M * gnarface windows filesharing 1596675885 M * emanuel i know ... is it safe 1596675912 M * gnarface it is for client access, so yes, relatively safe, and you don't have to actually use it 1596675924 M * gnarface i assume that's just for version 2 and 3 and the other one is already answered though, the parent one 1596675942 M * gnarface the actual driver would have a "m" option too 1596675967 M * gnarface if you enable this you may still have to enable the other for it to matter 1596676042 M * emanuel SMB3.1.1 network file system support (Experimental) (CIFS_SMB311) [N/y/?] (NEW) 1596676131 M * gnarface more of the same 1596676135 M * gnarface SMB for samba 1596676170 M * emanuel i know but i think that one in not safe 1596676228 M * gnarface i doubt any of them are safe, the protocol is fundamentally insecure 1596676267 M * gnarface but it can only be insecure if you actually are using it 1596676280 M * gnarface it's not going to create file shares on it's own, you'd need to install samba and run a server for that 1596676411 M * emanuel but it couldn't make the server vulnerable, right? 1596676513 M * gnarface i don't see how really 1596676529 M * gnarface i don't know for sure, but it's just a filesystem driver 1596676548 M * gnarface it might crash the machine but the worst thing it's likely to do is corrupt your data 1596676562 M * gnarface if you don't actually use it, it would be harmless 1596676608 M * emanuel NCP file system support (to mount NetWare volumes) (NCP_FS) [N/m/y/?] (NEW) 1596676627 M * emanuel what is NCP or NetWare 1596676632 M * gnarface hah 1596676635 M * gnarface you should look that up 1596676641 M * gnarface but no, you're not going to need that 1596676752 M * emanuel Enable __deprecated logic (ENABLE_WARN_DEPRECATED) [Y/n/?] (NEW) 1596676884 M * emanuel what is __deprecated logic 1596677053 M * gnarface it's a system for printing warnings about deprecated api calls and stuff i guess 1596677169 M * emanuel ookaayy, I'll just hit enter 1596677233 M * gnarface it's harmless, it just prints warnings 1596677489 M * emanuel I think now we are at the Linux-VServer onfiguration 1596677505 M * emanuel *configuration 1596677681 M * emanuel Automatic Single IP Special Casing (VSERVER_AUTO_SINGLE) [N/y/?] (NEW) 1596678420 M * emanuel sorry, I'm tired. I'll write you later. Many thanks for your help! 1596680612 M * Bertl_oO off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! 1596680614 N * Bertl_oO Bertl_zZ 1596685753 Q * transacid Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1596685952 J * transacid ~transacid@transacid.de 1596701664 J * Ghislain ~ghislain@adsl2.aqueos.com 1596703338 M * Guy- emanuel: oldconfig also displays the same help menuconfig would, when prompting for a new option 1596705791 M * emanuel what is "generic device remapping" 1596706019 M * emanuel i used the help but the help only says: "This enables generic device remapping." 1596706891 M * Guy- yeah, it's not always terribly useful :) 1596706914 M * Guy- emanuel: generic device remapping, afaiu, is a mechanism to make a host device appear as a different device inside a guest 1596706957 M * Guy- e.g. you could have the host's /dev/lp0 be remapped to /dev/null in the guest, so that whatever the guest writes into /dev/null appears on your parallel printer :) 1596706974 M * Guy- there might be more sensible uses for it, though 1596707002 M * Guy- if you can't think of any, you probably don't need it 1596707093 M * emanuel well I can think of some use cases but it in recommended not to use it 1596707250 M * emanuel I think I'll use it then 1596708063 M * emanuel could there be any problems if I turn on "Honor privacy Aspects of guests"? the help only says: "When enabled, most context checks will disallow access to structures assigned to a specific context, like ptys or loop devices." 1596708604 M * emanuel I think I'll just enable it 1596709021 M * Guy- emanuel: don't 1596709031 M * Guy- emanuel: it'll make it very hard to manage the guests from the host 1596709054 M * emanuel oh 1596709062 M * Guy- if you already enabled it, go ahead and finish the configuration, but before building the kernel, edit .config with a text editor and comment this option out 1596709069 M * Guy- (or set it to N) 1596709184 Q * Ghislain Quit: Leaving. 1596709271 M * emanuel What about the extra check for reachability 1596709417 M * Guy- that's some debug option, isn't it? 1596709509 M * emanuel I didn't read the word debug anywhere 1596709886 M * emanuel that's what the help says: https://bin.snopyta.org/?f6af0cb3a6eb9cc5#9DxcvmnsyHrA3GAfWyQPh1j832maWXVsxeKco7H7a3uU 1596710346 M * Guy- emanuel: ah, I know now; no, you don't need it 1596710356 M * Guy- (unless you disabled mount namespaces for some reason) 1596710395 M * emanuel what are mount namespaces what are namespaces 1596710671 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1596710674 M * Bertl morning folks! 1596710697 M * Guy- emanuel: namespaces are the foundations of the container mechanism built into the kernel 1596710736 M * Guy- emanuel: for example, if you use network namespaces, you can have two containers on the same box that each have a different set of network interfaces and IP addresses, different routing, different firewall rules 1596710749 M * Guy- emanuel: with mount namespaces, they can have a different set of filesystems mounted 1596710896 M * emanuel i don't remember disabling or enabling mount namespaces 1596711423 M * emanuel I think I'll just keep the extra check for reachability disabled 1596711955 M * emanuel compiled the kernel now... 1596715309 Q * Aiken Remote host closed the connection 1596718403 M * Guy- mount namespaces are enabled by default 1596718502 M * Guy- ... I think 1596722326 Q * emanuel Remote host closed the connection 1596722330 J * emanuel ~emanuel@2a02:1748:dd5e:7720:aad8:61cd:1c3a:de3f 1596727361 J * fstd_ ~fstd@xdsl-81-173-178-50.nc.de 1596727830 Q * fstd Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1596742585 J * Aiken ~Aiken@b951.h.jbmb.net 1596747065 J * fstd ~fstd@xdsl-89-1-56-221.nc.de 1596747216 Q * fstd_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds