1499395323 J * romster ~romster@158.140.215.184 1499395383 Q * romster_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1499397571 Q * romster Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1499397879 J * romster ~romster@158.140.215.184 1499399667 J * fstd_ ~fstd@x4db6f040.dyn.telefonica.de 1499399670 Q * fstd Read error: Connection reset by peer 1499399683 N * fstd_ fstd 1499400405 Q * jrklein Remote host closed the connection 1499400692 J * jrklein ~cloud@proxy.dnihost.net 1499411256 J * nikolay ~nikolay@HOST.255.3.ixos.de 1499411476 Q * nikolay 1499411492 J * nikolay ~nikolay@HOST.255.3.ixos.de 1499411520 Q * nikolay Remote host closed the connection 1499412178 J * nikolay ~nikolay@HOST.255.3.ixos.de 1499412872 Q * guerby Read error: Connection reset by peer 1499412914 J * guerby ~guerby@ip165.tetaneutral.net 1499418658 Q * padde Remote host closed the connection 1499418758 J * padde ~padde@patrick-nagel.net 1499424543 J * Gremble ~Gremble@cpc87179-aztw31-2-0-cust6.18-1.cable.virginm.net 1499424700 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl_oO 1499428741 Q * nikolay Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1499429349 Q * Gremble Quit: Leaving 1499429889 Q * Aiken Remote host closed the connection 1499430181 J * Gremble ~Gremble@cpc87179-aztw31-2-0-cust6.18-1.cable.virginm.net 1499431545 Q * Gremble Read error: No route to host 1499432069 J * Gremble ~Gremble@cpc87179-aztw31-2-0-cust6.18-1.cable.virginm.net 1499432548 J * nikolay ~nikolay@2001:981:4551:1:d6be:d9ff:fe33:8c86 1499432615 M * Gremble hi all 1499432636 M * Gremble I'm trying to get vserver running on stretch with a co-install of LXC 1499432642 M * Gremble it's a right mess at the moment 1499432668 M * Gremble starting my vserver results in losing the contents of /proc and other fundamentals on the host 1499432706 M * Gremble any clues anybody? 1499432960 Q * Gremble Read error: Connection reset by peer 1499433259 J * Gremble ~Gremble@cpc87179-aztw31-2-0-cust6.18-1.cable.virginm.net 1499433301 M * Gremble # 1499433410 M * gnarface stretch uses systemd, right? 1499433436 M * Gremble yes 1499433472 M * Gremble which is essential for the LXC part of the install sadly 1499433714 M * gnarface it might be a problem 1499433727 M * gnarface at least it was, i thought... 1499433744 M * Gremble running systemd on the host shouldn't be an issue 1499433765 M * Gremble I've run it on Jessie host servers 1499433841 M * Gremble I think it might be my new compile of util-vserver for Stretch 1499433889 M * Gremble so /proc/ disappears 1499433909 M * Gremble but after I remount it I can see this from 'mount' 1499433916 M * Gremble /dev/sdb1 on /var/lib/vservers/pepper type ext4 (rw,noatime,discard,errors=remount-ro,commit=20,data=ordered) 1499433932 M * Gremble it's mounted my vserver "pepper" onto / !! 1499433945 M * Gremble daniel_hozac, any idea what might be going on? 1499435152 M * Gremble "Systemd on hosts 1499435153 M * Gremble Systemd must also be removed from hosts. With it present the host will loose it's /proc /sys and /dev on host starts or stops. See advice on how to remove it at [4]." 1499435168 M * Gremble ah, from my own notes on the Linux-Vserver wiki 1499435180 M * Guy- s/loose/lose/ 1499435183 M * Guy- (fwiw) 1499435224 M * Gremble though is a sense, the /proc is not lost, but perhaps a bit more loose 1499435231 M * Gremble than you'd like it 1499435623 M * Gremble daniel_hozac, any progress on getting util-vserver to be friendly with systemd? 1499435771 M * Guy- Gremble: just out of curiosity, why do you want to run linux-vserver in parallel with lxc? 1499435867 M * Gremble we are migrating between one and the other, so it makes sense to be running both 1499435978 M * Guy- migrating in which direction? 1499436262 M * AlexanderS Gremble: Can you test: https://github.com/linux-vserver/util-vserver/pull/26 1499436348 Q * nikolay Remote host closed the connection 1499436491 M * Gremble AlexanderS, yes 1499436536 M * Gremble it'll take a while 1499436559 M * AlexanderS That might fix the mount propagation back into the host, because system mounts / with MS_SHARED. 1499436573 M * Gremble OK 1499436617 M * Gremble I've been compiling Vserver without any systemd support at all, by making sure systemd libraries are removed from the build server 1499436629 M * Gremble should I carry on like that or should I do something else? 1499436677 M * AlexanderS Gremble: No problem. The pull request is open for more than a year... ;) So no hurry. 1499436728 M * AlexanderS Systemd support should be no problem. The problem is the way systemd mounts the filesystems while booting. 1499436733 M * Gremble AlexanderS, sorry for my ignorance, but if I want to build with that pull request added, what do I do? 1499436804 M * Gremble I've never done a clone then added a pull request from github before 1499436814 M * AlexanderS Gremble: You can simply pull this branch: https://github.com/AlexanderS/util-vserver/tree/fix/systemd-shared-mounts 1499436824 M * Gremble great 1499437576 M * Gremble AlexanderS, 1499437579 M * Gremble Cloning into 'systemd-shared-mounts'... 1499437579 M * Gremble remote: Not Found 1499437644 M * Gremble ah OK, it's that I don't know what I'm doing, that's the problem 1499440852 M * Gremble AlexanderS, I now have LXC and Vserver guests both running on the same machine 1499440892 M * Gremble so, er, that works then 1499440911 M * Gremble so would this work on a system without systemd installed then? 1499441062 Q * fosco Server closed connection 1499441063 J * fosco fosco@marx.wirefull.org 1499442017 J * hjf288 ~smuxi@cpc109027-salf6-2-0-cust228.10-2.cable.virginm.net 1499442214 M * hjf288 Hi, I'm currently using a vserver 3.18 kernel and looking at re-compiling it for LXC support, I'm just wondering if there are any conflicts between linux-vserver and LXC or whether they can run together? 1499442407 M * Gremble hjf288, it's like you've only just joined the channel and not see all the things we've just been talking about 1499442447 M * Gremble LXC requires systemd, SFAIK, and util-vserver breaks the host when starting guests 1499442515 M * Gremble but there's a patch from AlexanderS 1499442523 M * Gremble Gremble: You can simply pull this branch: https://github.com/AlexanderS/util-vserver/tree/fix/systemd-shared-mounts 1499442529 M * hjf288 LXC doesn't require systemd 1499442566 M * hjf288 Well maybe the 2 branch does, i haven't looked into that 1499442567 M * Gremble I have trouble running LXC with systemd on my Debian system, but if you have a way to do it without then all the better 1499442593 M * Gremble LXC 2.x solves the problem of having systemd in guests 1499442620 M * Gremble anyway, I have trouble running LXC with systemD on my debian system 1499442632 M * hjf288 I'm not really too concerned about systemd in guests atm - while it would be nice it isn't something I require 1499442633 M * Gremble AlexanderS' patch works, I've just compiled and run it 1499442646 M * hjf288 but thank you for the patch 1499442664 M * Gremble what OS are you using hjf288? 1499442701 M * hjf288 Debian Squeeze with 3.18 kernel + vserver 1499442719 M * Gremble http://repo.psand.net/ has kernels compiled by me for Debian, but if you are compiling for something else, taking the config from the source will help 1499442754 M * hjf288 Ahh you are beng? 1499442794 M * hjf288 I've previously used your kernels but the had some issues with your compiled ones around the time of dirtyc0w 1499442802 M * hjf288 *but had 1499442854 M * hjf288 At the moment I'm using 3.18.60 with the vserver patches applied (due to stack clash) 1499442892 M * AlexanderS Gremble: Yes, it should work fine on systems without systemd. 1499443002 M * hjf288 I'm just concerned about any incompatibility when running lxc and linux-vserver guests at the same time (in the event that anyone has been mad enough to try it) 1499443234 M * Gremble LXC runs on both the 3.18 and 4.1 kernels provided at the Psand Repositories 1499443317 M * Gremble the only incompatibility issues are those created by cgroups 1499443343 M * Gremble AlexanderS, thanks. I have problems with cgroups on new build. Was your fork from an older version of util-vserver? 1499443439 M * Gremble hjf288, if you do have ways of patching kernels for later versions, and especially for those that fix vulnerabilities, please let me know, preferably by the Linux- 1499443466 M * Gremble Vserver mailing list. I'm happy to build for newer security patched kernel images as soon as I'm handed them 1499443562 M * hjf288 Gremble: I don't have any magic I'm afraid - I just pulled the experimental patch for 3.18.55 and dry run it against 3.18.60 - reverted a non critical IPv6 commit, updated the makefile and applied it 1499443672 M * hjf288 Excuse the ignorance but I'm not hugely clued up on vserver - could you provide some use cases where a cgroup issue may occur between the the two? I'm not using any of the limiting features such as memory or cpu 1499443831 Q * ntrs Server closed connection 1499443833 J * ntrs ~ntrs@vault08.rosehosting.com 1499443856 M * Gremble I'm still experimenting with it myself hjf288 1499443895 M * AlexanderS Gremble: It's based on the current master branch. But I do not know, if there are other "unofficial" patches in the builds of Ben. 1499443896 M * Gremble but util-vserver will mount cgroups in a different spot to where lxc generally wants them 1499443908 M * Gremble I've not patched at all 1499443964 M * AlexanderS IIRC you can configure where util-vserver will mount it. 1499443995 M * Gremble AlexanderS, I had to copy the debian build files from http://people.linux-vserver.org/~dhozac/t/uv-testing/util-vserver-0.30.216-pre3126.tar.gz to build it in my normal way 1499444010 M * Gremble I'm not sure the git master is synced with daniel_hozac master at all 1499444020 M * Gremble there've been various cgroups fixes 1499444034 M * AlexanderS http://www.nongnu.org/util-vserver/doc/conf/configuration.html#global-cgroup 1499444073 M * Gremble I'm aware of those AlexanderS. Again I'm experimenting with them. 1499444103 M * Gremble util-vserver will remove the mounts already made by other system components 1499444112 M * Gremble and install it's own 1499444129 M * AlexanderS The timestamp of that tar.gz seems like it is the github master branch. So that should be the same version as in my fork. 1499444179 M * Gremble using util-vserver with your patch, with some settings in /etc/vservers/.default/cgroup, as the great flower page suggests, results in a system where the cgroups do not function correctly 1499444203 M * Gremble they may be written, and are written by util-vserver, but they don't have any effect on the guest 1499444226 M * Gremble it's the like the guests pid isn't ending up in the right cgroup 1499444274 M * AlexanderS Gremble: And without my patch it was working fine? 1499444302 M * Gremble ah, good point 1499444333 M * Gremble I've mounted cgroups at various locations without systemd, they've all worked 1499444364 M * Gremble but I can't confirm my specific settings that I'm using work on a non-systemd system 1499444382 M * Gremble I must sign off for the day, I'll get back to this tomorrow. 1499444396 M * Gremble Thanks for your time AlexanderS and thanks for the patch. 1499444425 M * AlexanderS Gremble: No problem. 1499444436 M * Gremble could there be anything in your patch which affects the point at which Vserver guest processes are assigned to a cgroup? 1499444447 Q * Gremble Quit: Leaving 1499444549 M * AlexanderS That was quite fast. :-D 1499446940 N * ensc|w Guest607 1499446950 J * ensc|w ~ensc@git-ext.sigma-chemnitz.de 1499447361 Q * Guest607 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1499461633 J * Aiken ~Aiken@d63f.h.jbmb.net 1499461941 Q * Defaultti Quit: WeeChat . 1499462011 J * Defaultti defaultti@lakka.kapsi.fi 1499466411 J * Aircraft ~Aircraft1@177.137.205.63 1499466564 Q * Aircraft Quit: Leaving