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1479720040 M * Bertl_oO  off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1479720042 N * Bertl_oO Bertl_zZ
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1479750460 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1479750464 M * Bertl  morning folks!
1479755339 M * gnarface 'morning Bertl 
1479755406 M * gnarface that computer with the faulty cpu you helped me diagnose is still up and running at half clockspeed with no further service interruptions since then
1479755420 M * gnarface its still slow and inefficient though
1479755436 M * gnarface i need new gear
1479755463 M * gnarface i'm wondering if anyone makes ARM servers 
1479755505 M * gnarface also wondering what you opinion is on supermicro 
1479755513 M * gnarface just... as a brand really
1479755626 M * Bertl well, for years I did stay away from supermicro because I had some problems (always went with gigabyte ultra durable boards and never had a problem)
1479755638 M * gnarface gigabyte eh
1479755641 M * gnarface noted
1479755647 M * Bertl a year ago, I decided to give supermicro another try with a server board
1479755689 M * Bertl first it had problems with spurious resets (which could be fixed after a lengthy discussion with supermicro and a resulting unofficial firmware/bios update)
1479755704 M * gnarface oh hmmm
1479755710 M * Bertl now it 'only' locks up every two months or so :)
1479755713 M * gnarface he
1479755715 M * gnarface heh*
1479755731 M * gnarface i'd heard some rumors about bad/untrustworthy ipmi implementatios 
1479755732 M * Bertl so I guess I don't have much luck with supermicro
1479755755 M * gnarface alright well, that confirms my suspicions of their street cred
1479755806 M * gnarface (they've got a new late-night tv commercial pressing in on all fronts, it was starting to work on me, but i still remember people not having a high opinion of their quality)
1479755948 M * Bertl why would you want to go with ARM servers?
1479756040 M * gnarface primarily thinking of efficiency 
1479756070 M * gnarface but other things enter into it
1479756114 M * gnarface like a long-standing contempt for Intel and an unshakeable feeling of dread emanating from the x86 instruction set
1479756195 M * gnarface it seems like ARM hardware is going in a fundamentally different direction from that, and i like the idea
1479756264 M * Bertl well, you could probably put a dozen rasperry pi and a switch in a server chassis and have a cheap ARM farm :)
1479756330 M * gnarface yes, actually i did extensive trial research on the raspberry pi and unfortunately discovered the project's linux support to be hostile, untrustworthy, and incompetent 
1479756349 M * gnarface something *like* that would be a good start, but i'm open to suggestions for alternate particular models
1479756351 M * Bertl on a more serious note, there are several arm boards already out there, but they are not really cheap nor that efficient
1479756377 M * gnarface since the raspberry pi's binary-only component will just never be safe to expose to a public network or any amount of load
1479756380 M * Bertl there is the banana pi as well, IIRC
1479756392 M * gnarface hmmm
1479756408 M * Bertl Gigabyte for example has the MP30-AR0
1479756417 M * gnarface banana pi has no affiliation to Broadcom, Inc?
1479756445 M * gnarface stability of course would be key 
1479756463 M * gnarface i couldn't get that out of the raspberry pi due to the utter negligence with which their binary component was handled
1479756469 M * Bertl banana pie uses an allwinner A20
1479756487 M * Bertl 100% chinese product, no affiliation with broadcom :)
1479756536 M * gnarface good, good
1479756558 M * gnarface well the specs look great on paper at least
1479756563 M * gnarface this gigabyte board looks nice too
1479756579 M * gnarface no way it could be less efficient than my Athlon64x2 server :-p
1479756610 M * gnarface alright, thanks for the tips Bertl, the hunt continues 
1479756648 M * Bertl you're welcome! and have fun!
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1479768635 M * CcxWrk gnarface: I'd personally look into arm64 devices now, if you want arm on server.
1479768684 M * gnarface CcxWrk: got any specific suggestions?
1479768750 M * gnarface CcxWrk: something you tried that was good?
1479768918 M * CcxWrk No experience with arm64, I have Cubietruck (which is OK, kinda) and APU from PCEngines which is great (and not ARM)
1479769262 M * CcxWrk But in general, think about what you want to run on it. The caches, memory sizes and bus speeds might be of bigger bottleneck than raw CPU speed.
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