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1425973787 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1425973789 M * Bertl morning folks!
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1425974559 M * nikolayK morning fellows
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1425986069 M * DelTree \_o< ~ Coin ~ >o_/
1425986321 M * Bertl always inspires me to mention the donation page ... :)
1425986540 M * sid3windr insert coins
1425987055 M * DelTree damn english-speaking chans... where's the right alias...
1425987070 M * DelTree \_o< ~ Kwak ~ >o_/
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1425987360 M * DelTree and I'm not supposed to let the duck speak here... I'll have to make some cleanup in my irc windows...
1425987464 M * Bertl much better :)
1425987537 M * DelTree while I'm speaking here... I'll ask the bad question and run away... still no wheezy vserver kernel around ?
1425987569 M * Bertl not sure, what classifies as "wheezy vserver kernel"?
1425987594 M * Bertl ben is doing a good job building latest kernels as debian packages ...
1425987654 M * DelTree mmmh... interesting... ^_^
1425987844 M * nikolayK DelTree, you can run wheezy with any vserver enabled kernel you like... just build it yourself ;-)
1425987851 M * nikolayK this applied to any distro out there...
1425987882 M * DelTree nikolayK: the famous DIY answer... ;)
1425987903 M * DelTree but if there's another answer out there... I'd like it too... ^_^
1425988388 M * fback DelTree: another answer: custom kernel tailored to server hardware is always better than generic one ;)
1425988403 M * fback morning Bertl :)
1425988461 M * Bertl hey fback! how's going?
1425988555 M * DelTree fback: really not to the point it worth to spend soooo much time...
1425988556 M * fback some bad flu here, can't remember when I was that sick :/
1425988585 M * fback DelTree: definitely it is woth the time, security wise
1425988592 M * Bertl yeah, that's going round right now, had a bad cold last week too
1425988610 M * fback you cut a lot of unused (and potentially buggy) code paths
1425988736 M * fback Bertl: fortunately it's not swine flu ;)
1425988792 M * DelTree fback: well... I tried it some day... once I removed something my initrd needed... another time it was the (laptop) keyboard driver that was gone... and yes, you're allowed to laugh...
1425988995 M * Bertl (oo) Oink :)
1425989074 M * fback DelTree: but once you have your greatest .config, you just reuse it afterwards.
1425989114 M * fback and you have what suits you best, and not what your distro thinks is best for you
1425989481 M * Bertl well, the distro thinks that it is best to build your own, so that's pretty advanced for debian :)
1425989570 M * Bertl and I read somewhere, that it was forked to get rid of systemd too, so maybe I should take a look :)
1425989823 M * fback Bertl: is there any "logic" behind vserver patch versioning? i.e. latest patch version for 3.4 is 2.3.3.9, while it's 2.3.6.9 for 3.10
1425989852 M * Bertl yes, the logic is that I increment the patch when something changed
1425989855 M * fback the difference is because mainline changes, or there are some changes in func too?
1425989871 M * Bertl minor change, minor increment, major change, major increment
1425989898 M * Bertl when porting a patch from one kernel to another, the number usually stays the same, unless changes are incorporated
1425989911 M * Bertl over time, they tend to drift apart
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1425993455 M * undefined DelTree: i run wheezy and compile my own kernels using the config from debian's kernel packages
1425993523 M * undefined DelTree: if you would find it beneficial, then i can put up my configs (3.10, 3.14, & 3.18) and how i build it into a debian package in a pastebin
1425996051 M * DelTree undefined: it would be very nice indeed
1425996379 M * undefined DelTree: coming up...
1425997607 M * undefined 3.10: http://pastebin.com/MCT2wnkh
1425997614 M * undefined 3.14: http://pastebin.com/9MKrqaMd
1425997619 M * undefined 3.18: http://pastebin.com/KNTEZVMz
1425997640 M * undefined how-to: http://pastebin.com/wFVr35Ef
1425997702 M * DelTree wow... thank you very much...
1425997713 M * undefined those kernel configs are retrieved from debian's corresponding linux-image packages configured for vserver
1425997724 M * undefined packages *and* configured
1425997777 M * undefined so those are stock debian kernel configs + vserver config
1425997826 M * undefined i build with the in-kernel debian packaging process, not using kernel-package
1425997951 M * DelTree I'll have to understand this build process... ^_^
1425998023 M * undefined yeah, a lot of it is unnecessary, like i time my runs ("time -p")  and nice it ("nice -n19 ionice -c2 -n7")
1425998085 M * undefined and you can set CONCURRENCY_LEVEL to whatever (and it doesn't have to be called that specifically, but that's the environment variable kernel-package used, iirc, so i've stuck with it)
1425998085 M * DelTree yeah... seen 'time' and 'nice' stuff... no trouble with that...
1425998113 M * DelTree specific reason you don't use kernel-package ?
1425998135 M * undefined and i set EXTRAVERSION and KDEB_PKGVERSION to resemble the format seen in debian linux-image packages
1425998181 M * undefined DelTree: i don't use kernel-package because it doesn't keep up with changes in the latest kernels unless you use the backported version
1425998201 M * undefined i think the change from 2.6 to 3.0 was what made me finally change for good
1425998263 M * undefined iirc, there were 2.6-specific assumptions made in kernel-package so that when i tried to compile 3.0 it failed
1425998400 M * DelTree ok... thank you again...
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1426007485 M * AlexanderS DelTree: as Bertl already mentioned, if you do not want to build the kernel yourself, you could also use the precompiled kernel packages from ben: http://repo.psand.net/info/
1426007693 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:a18:20b:c701:34a2:28e1:5c6c:be02
1426009293 M * DelTree AlexanderS: oh right... thank you... Bertl didn't give the url or I didn't see it...
1426009545 M * Bertl IIRC, it is linked on our web pages, so I didn't bother to dig it out
1426010623 M * DelTree my bad that I didn't dig it myself...
1426010745 M * undefined providing the information to help someone compile their own kernel should not be interpreted and a recommendation to compile your own kernel ;)
1426010792 M * undefined interpreted *as* a recommendation
1426010864 M * DelTree I'm interested in that too... will depend on my time and laziness... ^_^
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