1415750814 M * gnarface daniel_hozac: hey, i forget if i've asked, been meaning to ask, all those init.d scripts named 'v_*' in util-vserver, i don't need those on a current debian system, right? 1415750907 M * gnarface Bertl: (or anyone else who might know) those issues with the "hard LOCKUP" being detected on my cpu, could those be related to one and only specific process doing something inappropriate, rather than hardware defect? 1415750946 M * gnarface i've noticed so far they seem to correlate with the teamfortress2 server becoming out-of-date and people trying to connect with newer patch versions 1415750973 M * Bertl lockups usually only happen in drivers (or the kernel), i.e. userspace processes cannot lock-up per se 1415750974 M * gnarface while its current, there's never so far been any noise in the dmesg except the usual udp checksum noise 1415750983 M * gnarface hmm. 1415750985 M * gnarface alright 1415751017 M * gnarface so what could the teamfortress2 server be doing that nothing else is to cause this? 1415751018 M * Bertl but it might be related to a network card problem or similar 1415751030 M * gnarface hmmm 1415751041 M * Bertl sending or receiving special packages for example? 1415751048 M * gnarface ah yes 1415751061 M * gnarface the tf2 server might be doing something weird with networking 1415751077 M * gnarface it gets these errors a lot: UDP: bad checksum. From 189.144.28.127:65535 to 108.227.52.46:27015 ulen 33 1415751088 M * gnarface well not "a lot" but... sometimes several times a day 1415751109 M * gnarface which if you google it there's a red herring (hack attempts) 1415751133 M * gnarface but supposedly that bug was fixed a couple years ago 1415751160 M * gnarface some people also cite hardware issues (something wrong with the checksumming chip on certain ethernet cards?) 1415751170 M * gnarface so far it doesn't seem to be breaking anything 1415751187 M * gnarface i'll get a couple of those messages an hour for days at a time 1415751199 M * gnarface but people seem to be using the server normally 1415751208 M * gnarface so far the hard lockup messages don't appear till a patch comes out 1415751218 M * gnarface (then they stop when i update) 1415751230 P * undefined 1415751232 M * gnarface its all very weird 1415751234 Q * zerick Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1415751289 J * undefined ~undefined@00011a48.user.oftc.net 1415751341 M * gnarface Bertl: UDP: bad checksum errors ... source port and ip change, but are always from remote systems. is it possible the checksum problem is caused by my router (which is inbetween the network and the server) or does an actual checksum error suggest it has to be a problem with the network card on the server itself where that dmesg error occurs? 1415751371 M * Bertl a bad packet checksum can happen anywhere 1415751410 M * gnarface ok so the fact its showing up in dmesg on this server doesn't mean that the packet was corrupted at the server's ethernet card; it could have been corrupted in transit up the line somewhere, even on hardware i don't own? 1415751471 M * gnarface googling suggests the tf2 server's network behavior is quite misbehaved but there's very little hard evidence or info from the actual staff to be found, just wild speculation and bug reports 1415754001 Q * fstd Remote host closed the connection 1415754017 J * fstd ~fstd@xdsl-87-78-185-166.netcologne.de 1415754086 Q * Ghislain Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1415763921 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! 1415763929 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1415764257 Q * yoshi314_ Remote host closed the connection 1415776592 J * Ghislain ~aqueos@adsl2.aqueos.com 1415778191 T * * http://linux-vserver.org/ |stable 3.6.x-vs2.3.x|util-vserver-0.30.216-pre3062| He who asks a question is a fool for a minute; he who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime -- share the gained knowledge on the Wiki, and we forget about the minute. 1415778191 T * Bertl - 1415779377 Q * swenTjuln Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1415779432 J * swenTjuln ~Swen@195.95.173.243 1415779862 Q * thierryp Remote host closed the connection 1415782356 J * thierryp ~thierry@zebra.inria.fr 1415782408 J * thierryp_ ~thierry@zebra.inria.fr 1415782408 Q * thierryp Read error: Connection reset by peer 1415784356 Q * Wermwud Read error: Connection reset by peer 1415787664 J * thierryp ~thierry@zebra.inria.fr 1415787665 Q * thierryp_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1415792040 Q * Aiken Remote host closed the connection 1415795287 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1415795289 M * Bertl morning folks! 1415797126 M * Ghislain plop 1415797201 Q * fstd Remote host closed the connection 1415797251 J * fstd ~fstd@xdsl-84-44-221-149.netcologne.de 1415802941 J * Wermwud ~Wermwud@69-29-150-18.stat.centurytel.net 1415811064 Q * Ghislain Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1415812505 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:a18:201:5a01:359d:1cf2:a794:7dfe 1415813148 Q * thierryp Remote host closed the connection 1415817794 J * Ghislain ~aqueos@adsl2.aqueos.com 1415819174 J * Aiken ~Aiken@d63f.h.jbmb.net 1415820636 J * thierryp ~thierry@2a01:e35:2e2b:e2c0:749b:719c:f0a7:4f9f 1415822608 J * thierryp_ ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net 1415822982 Q * thierryp Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1415824536 M * Guy- daniel_hozac: re my question from yesterday, nattribute --get shows nflags: lback_remap,hide_netif,hide_lback,state_admin 1415827845 J * ccx ~ccxCZ@asterix.te2000.cz 1415828541 M * daniel_hozac Guy-: looks accurate. 1415830148 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1415832461 Q * ccx Remote host closed the connection 1415832533 J * _ccxCZ ~ccxCZ@asterix.te2000.cz 1415832565 Q * _ccxCZ Remote host closed the connection 1415832618 J * ccx ~ccxCZ@asterix.te2000.cz 1415832670 Q * ccx Remote host closed the connection 1415836356 Q * Ghislain Quit: Leaving.