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1406882855 M * dar00st3r Good morning all.. I guess I'm in for another embarassing question :).. was wondering if docker would work in a linux-vserver at all? 
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1406884448 M * Ghislain it would require giving so much rigth to the guest that all isolation will be lost
1406885037 M * dar00st3r Hey Ghislain, thanks for the feedback.. Hmmm.. I was under the impression this wouldn't be possible at all.. Out of curiosity what caps would need to be enabled for this to work?
1406885080 M * Ghislain i guess allmost all like netadmin ans sysadmin, basicaly you loose any isoletion at all
1406885088 M * Ghislain isolation
1406885109 M * Ghislain the guest become able to alter the host with those so i do not see a use case
1406885198 M * renihs Ghislain, happen to know any good documents/links which compare kernel barriers to docket namespace isolation?
1406885205 M * renihs s/docket/docker
1406885253 M * dar00st3r I completely agree.. if this implies allowing full control on the host then there is no point in doing it.. the idea was to be able to use docker's features for shipping fully preconfigured apps with ease and not having to package them..
1406885733 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1406885738 M * Bertl morning folks!
1406885874 M * Ghislain renihs: docker and vserver use the same mecanism to provide isolation, vserver use more internal system than docker that relies only on kernel systems only but even if it seems possible to me to use one indside the other the point would be that it will completly open the first layer making it useless
1406885895 M * Bertl dar00st3r: but most likely, you can adapt docker to build Linux-VServer guests :)
1406885994 M * renihs Ghislain, hmm 
1406886038 M * dar00st3r hey.. good morning Bertl.. hmmm... That's what I was looking at but in this case I'd rather use utils builtin fuctionality or even something like salt :)
1406886827 M * Ghislain dar00st3r: what i do not get into docker is how you update packages on each docker instance when security upgrade comes..never played with it yet
1406886843 M * Ghislain seems fire and forget and so forget and be owned
1406887082 M * dar00st3r Ghislain: I'm still in the investigating part so I haven't installed it and used it for the moment but from what I've grasped you export your updated app and just fire it yes.. then when there is a docker binary update you need to rebuild your app container with the new binary..
1406887367 M * Ghislain you neeed to rebuild each docker one by one..hum guess with 2/3 packages PER DAY to upgrade this will make this a complete nightmare to run
1406887403 M * Ghislain i am old school let's stick to guest
1406887433 M * Ghislain a least i will not have 100x+ work so that lazy devs can have their shiny new hype tool running
1406887434 M * renihs 2-3 security updates pkgs per day?
1406887450 A * renihs hasnt digged into docker yet
1406887454 M * renihs i only see hype
1406887454 M * Ghislain debian lamp server you got nearly that yes
1406887470 M * Ghislain today file, pythion with 3 python packages
1406887486 M * Ghislain the otherday was webmin/usermin
1406887491 M * Ghislain beofre was all the mysql
1406887503 M * Ghislain then there was all php5 and also the apache2..
1406887509 A * renihs is lucky not having much todo with lamp or deity beware, php
1406887516 M * Ghislain so yes a LOT of update ALL the time
1406887516 M * renihs i dont think you can secure php :)
1406887557 M * renihs i suppose i should look into the docker application upgrade process
1406887564 M * Ghislain system package is my responsability , applications are not i can just mitigate what i can 
1406887566 M * renihs dunno, the docker documentation feels abit trollish 
1406887639 A * renihs isnt sure what to make out of.... : http://docs.docker.com/userguide/
1406887671 M * CcxCZ well, that's why you want as little code as possible in the guest :] alpine and gentoo are kinda okay on trimming down what's installed in there. was playing with nixos also but was not really satisfied with the choices in nixpkgs
1406887708 M * renihs yeah, in my vserver guests, there really usually is only a "single application"
1406887714 M * Bertl arch linux maybe?
1406887714 M * renihs and not too many upgrades at all
1406887724 M * renihs glsa security upgrades that is
1406888000 M * CcxCZ nix would be theoretically the best fit, it does package dedup, and clean migration back and forth between version
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1406893396 M * dar00st3r Ghislain: sorry was afk.. Am not sure you would need to upgrade your dockers as often as you would only be upgrading libs and code dependencies of your app not the entire system. obviously if you are running jessie in production it could become an issue but otherwise it does have it's advantages.. I was planning on using it to create templates of apps like redmine.
1406893486 M * dar00st3r from what I get what you bundle in your docker is really up to you.
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1406900323 Q * hijacker Quit: Leaving
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1406904299 M * Bertl off for now ... bbl
1406904303 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
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1406914420 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
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1406918811 Q * Romster Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1406918919 Q * neofutur Quit: Lost terminal
1406919324 Q * ensc|w Remote host closed the connection
1406919848 J * ensc|w ~ensc@www-old.sigma-chemnitz.de
1406920951 M * Bertl off for a nap .. bbl
1406920959 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1406925366 Q * Defaultti Quit: Quitting.
1406925419 J * Defaultti defaultti@lakka.kapsi.fi
1406925975 J * neofutur ~neofutur@fh.gd
1406926167 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1406926176 M * Bertl back
1406929696 M * Aiken curious about network name spaces with vserver, are they currently worth trying or easier/better to stay with my current set up of all ip on br0?
1406929805 M * Bertl they are well supported by recent util-vserver, but IMHO they provide little advantage over the isolation setup
1406929823 M * Bertl (unless you want to simulate networks that is)
1406929932 M * Aiken I am wondering this because of ipv6
1406929961 M * Aiken I eventually stopped the host from using a guests address for out going by marking it as depreciated
1406929988 M * Aiken when I connect to the guest from the host the guest shows the connection coming from it's ip
1406930563 M * Aiken still 3.6.9-vs2.3.4.4 and 0.30.216_pre3038
1406933808 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving
1406936297 M * Aiken that has been some of my morning gone, 3.13.11 + vserver + empty /dev