1406765250 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1406765261 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1406794278 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1406794288 M * Bertl morning folks!
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1406809651 M * wiuempe hello
1406809665 M * Bertl hello
1406809677 M * wiuempe Bertl: i have problem, i dont know why my vserver has two interfaces, eth0 and dummy
1406809713 M * Bertl probably because you configured an IP which is present/assigned to both?
1406809734 M * wiuempe http://wklej.org/id/1429549
1406809738 M * wiuempe Bertl: no
1406809775 M * Bertl try an 'ip a l' on the host
1406809873 M * wiuempe in eth0 i have 1.30, interesting...
1406809908 M * Bertl see, remove that, and it will be gone in the guest too
1406809984 M * wiuempe Bertl: ok, works ;)
1406810183 M * Bertl you're welcome!
1406810274 M * wiuempe thanks ;)
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1406826434 M * dar00st3r hi all.. wanted to get up to speed with linux-vserver project health and roadmap if any.. 
1406827053 M * dar00st3r ^^ I guess minutes of foolishness scale depending on the question.. lol
1406827159 M * dar00st3r I ask because I'm a real linux-verser lover (been using it for 3 years now) and currently rely on the psand repo for patched kernels and utils.
1406827297 M * dar00st3r I have a small project of service hosting and would love to user linux-vserver (which in my opinion is the next best thing after the kernel itself) but feel concerned since it was dropped from debian mainstream.
1406827637 M * dar00st3r So for the killer question, and feel free to flame, is the project still under developpment and are there any plans to re-enter the debian mainstream?
1406827820 M * Bertl what is development for you?
1406827841 M * Bertl and no, we have no intention to re-enter debian mainstream
1406827899 M * Bertl it was a lot of extra work, explaining and unnecessary bugs, so I guess we are way better off with a well maintained repository like the psand one
1406828140 M * dar00st3r hi Bertl.. thank for the feedback.. what I meant was (although not clear) is psand the "official" vserver repo and will it be maintained for upcoming kernel versions. also do you plan on extending the current feature set in the future or is functionality more or less frozen?
1406828217 M * Bertl the feature set is more or less frozen, we basically finished whatever was required for complete isolation some years ago, we are in maintainance mode, waiting for mainline to catch up :)
1406828289 M * Bertl as mainline kernels (mostly cgroups) get better and better, we reduce the Linux-VServer code and integrate the new functionality
1406828335 M * Bertl there is no official vserver repo, there are patches for mainstream kernels and a well maintained toolset (util-vserver) to interface with 
1406828358 M * Bertl but that doesn
1406828380 M * Bertl 't mean that the psand repository is of bad quality, on the contrary
1406828417 M * Bertl it gets a lot testing and the maintainer is very interested in feedback, so you can consider it the most official version of debian packages out there ATM
1406828573 M * dar00st3r lol.. and i guess this waiting could last for a while seeing how hard it is to work with other projects.. I've been learning linux hands on and have always managed to escape kernel tweaking/compilation and psand was a lifesaver when I migrated part of my hosts to wheezy..
1406828663 M * Bertl I'm confident, as long as LXC hasn't reached the quality to completely replace Linux-VServer, there will be folks packaging it for various distros :)
1406828720 M * dar00st3r I just want to make sure that I'm not starting a new project and will get stuck later in time.. Yeah.. didn't want to point out fingers but linux-vserver is a breeze compared to LXC.. ;p
1406828761 M * dar00st3r Why don't you get your own repo on git like the utils have?
1406828803 M * Bertl I'm not too happy with git, although my development process is quite similar in principle
1406829302 M * dar00st3r was looking at the wiki.. sorry for the dumb question but what is your code hosted on? am trying to make sense of what I should consider if I was to compile the kernel myself.. I guess everyone has there favorite tools.. I was pointing at git because it's the hype thing for the moment.. I host my projects on good old svn repos.. 
1406829377 M * Bertl the patches are available as diffs (to mainline) which get published on a server (linux-vserver.org)
1406830106 M * dar00st3r ok.. light is shinning at the end of the tunnel :) thanks for the insight Bertl.. I guess next stop is psand repo maintainer.. I'll probably be dropping back at a later point in time when I've RTFM a bit more.. TA.. 
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