1398297648 J * fisted ~fisted@xdsl-87-78-11-187.netcologne.de 1398298837 Q * fisted Remote host closed the connection 1398298877 J * fisted ~fisted@xdsl-87-78-11-187.netcologne.de 1398304209 J * Aiken ~Aiken@2001:44b8:2168:1000:21f:d0ff:fed6:d63f 1398305378 Q * undefined Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1398305739 J * undefined ~undefined@66-190-97-211.dhcp.unas.tx.charter.com 1398309371 J * fisted_ ~fisted@xdsl-84-44-145-225.netcologne.de 1398309823 Q * fisted Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1398309823 N * fisted_ fisted 1398311596 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! 1398311608 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1398315995 Q * geos_one Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 28.0/20140322232911] 1398316299 Q * geb Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1398317637 J * zerick ~eocrospom@190.187.21.53 1398318557 N * l0kit Guest7430 1398318563 J * l0kit ~1oxT@0001b54e.user.oftc.net 1398318964 Q * Guest7430 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1398320627 J * Ghislain ~aqueos@adsl1.aqueos.com 1398320638 Q * _Shiva_ Quit: Operator halted - Coffee not found 1398320678 J * _Shiva_ shiva@whatcha.looking.at 1398321296 Q * zerick Remote host closed the connection 1398325319 J * geb ~geb@mars.gebura.eu.org 1398332326 J * benl ~benl@dockoffice.sonassihosting.com 1398332333 M * benl Hey troops 1398332343 M * benl Is there a sysrq command that can stop a vserver ? 1398334899 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1398334918 M * Bertl morning folks! 1398334960 M * Bertl benl: a guest (context) will seize to exist if the last process inside that guest terminates 1398334974 M * Bertl (unless you did set it persistent) 1398339133 Q * Aiken Remote host closed the connection 1398339433 M * benl I wanted to know if there was a way just to kill a single guest via sysrq 1398339474 M * benl but it appears you can only kill everything 1398339486 M * arekm 3.13 EOL :/ 1398339492 M * benl Already?! 1398339501 M * arekm yes, see kernel.org 1398339506 M * benl Jeezo 1398339521 M * benl I'll stick to longterm 3.10 for nw 1398339532 M * arekm too close to 3.12 which is longterm 1398339542 M * benl But no DRBD in 3.12 yet :\ 1398340778 M * undefined 3.13 will no longer bee maintained by gkh, but ubuntu will maintain it (https://lwn.net/Articles/595794/) 1398343236 Q * fisted Remote host closed the connection 1398346194 J * fisted ~fisted@xdsl-87-78-185-112.netcologne.de 1398347346 M * distemper hmm, got a funny problem: after upgrading from 3.13.6 to .10 my /dev is almost empty (yes, it's a devtmps and yes, i have a CONFIG_DEVTMPFS_MOUNT=y), same .config, but devtmpfs seems borked... oh and a vanilla 3.13.10 (or .11) is working properly, any idea? 1398347618 M * Bertl sounds strange, sure you are using the same .config and kernel boot command line? 1398347627 M * Bertl please upload the complete bootup log 1398347992 M * distemper yes, quite sure... have to do that later, i'm in the middle of compiling something 1398348190 M * distemper (i have a git repo with my config files, so i'm able to compare them easily :) 1398348438 M * Bertl good, let me know when you have two bootup logs, one from vanilla and one from the patched kernel, I'll look into it 1398349029 Q * fisted Remote host closed the connection 1398349660 Q * Defaultti Quit: Quitting. 1398349746 J * Defaultti defaultti@lakka.kapsi.fi 1398354615 M * distemper so, i recompiled and booted 3 kernels with the same config, just to make sure - same result: 3.13.6-vs working, 3.13.10-vanilla working and 3.13.10-vs gives me an (almost, but can't tell as udev init script also creates some device nodes) empty devtmpfs 1398354674 M * distemper and there's not much to see in the log... some daemons complaining about missing devices, udev complaining it couldn't stat /dev/xyz (if i enable udev debugging) 1398354700 M * Bertl I'm interested in the kernel bootup log, not what happens after userspace kicks in 1398354761 M * distemper boot_3.13.10-vs2.3.6.11.log: http://bpaste.net/show/231007/ and boot_3.13.10.log: http://bpaste.net/show/231009/ 1398354817 M * Bertl this is definitely incomplete/truncated 1398354844 M * Bertl make sure to remove any 'quiet' option from the kernel command line and capture the output from the early kernel startup 1398354911 M * Bertl i.e. it starts like this: 1398354921 M * Bertl [ 0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpu 1398354921 M * Bertl [ 0.000000] Linux version 3.13.10-vs2.3.6.8 (root@hamiller) (gcc version 4.6.3 (GCC) ) #8 SMP Thu Apr 17 01:45:06 UTC 2014 1398354924 M * Bertl [ 0.000000] Command line: console=ttyS0,115200n8 nolocal noswap rw root=/dev/hda1 debug 1398354928 M * Bertl [ 0.000000] e820: BIOS-provided physical RAM map: 1398355224 M * distemper thats right... strange. is there an option for verbose boot messages? 1398355277 M * Bertl you can add 'debug' but most importantly, you need to remove 'quiet' if your bootloader adds that 1398355406 M * distemper no quiet parameter in the config, i'll try again in a few minutes ;) 1398355687 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:a18:20c:401:2cd9:12c7:8f97:7350 1398358701 J * SteeleNivenson ~SteeleNiv@pool-108-29-139-222.nycmny.fios.verizon.net 1398359296 Q * benl Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Go on, try it! 1398361394 M * distemper did i say minutes? i meant hours... http://bpaste.net/show/231246/ and http://bpaste.net/show/231247/, Bertl 1398361410 M * distemper (i guess i set the log buffer size too small) 1398361574 M * Bertl no problem ... looks better 1398361654 M * Bertl can you upload the .config for the 3.13.10-vs2.3.6.11 kernel please? 1398361705 M * distemper http://bpaste.net/show/231279/ 1398361880 M * Bertl okay, and when you finished booting up with that kernel, what does /proc/mounts say/show? 1398362028 M * distemper hard to tell, because i booted another kernel and i'm currently typing at that machine ;) but i remember i saw a mounted rootfs a mounted devtmpfs, tmpfs, proc and so on 1398362076 M * Bertl hmm, okay, thing is, I just tested with a 3.13.10-vs kernel here, and the devtmpfs works just fine for me 1398362090 M * Bertl but I don't use a read only ext4 rootfs 1398362149 M * Bertl but what IMHO might be an option is that the /dev (devtmpfs) is just mounted fine, but gets replaced by a /dev (tmpfs) handled by udev/systemd or so 1398362150 M * distemper i tested mouning an additional devtmpfs to another directory, and it ccontained only basic stuff, no sdaX, nothing 1398362173 M * Bertl okay, basic stuff means? 1398362315 M * distemper hmm, /dev/null, /dev/zero, /dev/tty and so on 1398362364 M * Bertl okay, what about vroot for example? 1398362376 M * Bertl or loopX 1398362388 M * distemper no 1398362406 M * Bertl so you are basically missing the entire block device subsystem 1398362416 M * Bertl but you got ttys and misc, yes? 1398362473 M * distemper yes 1398362513 M * Bertl well, I see that e.g. loop is configured as module, so that might not have been loaded 1398362647 M * distemper could it i have sth to do with the ext4 root? i'm asking because i first saw that behaviour in 3.13.8 (i was using .6 vserver patch + the ext4-fix from the mailing list)... there was this cmpxchg-thingie-patch in stable series... 1398362653 M * Bertl vroot OTOH depends on quota, so that's disabled 1398362689 M * distemper sorry, i meant .9, not .8 1398362733 M * Bertl it might be related, to be honest, this and the fact that you have guest PRIVACY enabled is the only possible causes I can see at the moment 1398362776 M * Bertl the privacy setting I can test here, the rootfs is trickier 1398362803 M * Bertl i.e. if you see a chance to temporarily use an ext3 rootfs that would be interesting 1398362866 M * Bertl rebuilding with guest privacy enabled now 1398362899 M * distemper ok, but there can't be so much difference between .10 and .6, the latter was definitively working with the exact same .config (tested half an hour ago) 1398362936 M * distemper so i'd rule out the guest-privacy... maybe 1398362964 M * Bertl if a complex framework is in place (maybe a preparation for some feature), a small change suffices to cause big differences 1398363021 M * Bertl at least I can rule out that devtmpfs doesn't work with .10, as it works just fine here 1398363210 M * distemper hmm, is it possible to mount an ext4 as ext3? anything else i'll have to do tomorrow, real life kicks in, have to walk the dogs and so on :/ 1398363497 M * Bertl if there are no ext4 specific options/features, then yes 1398363866 M * distemper ok, i'll tomorrow, then... thanks for your time, for now 1398363876 M * Bertl okay, no problem, cya 1398366489 Q * SteeleNivenson Quit: Leaving 1398372486 J * Aiken ~Aiken@2001:44b8:2168:1000:21f:d0ff:fed6:d63f 1398372855 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1398373463 J * zerick ~eocrospom@190.187.21.53 1398374702 J * ntrs ~ntrs@vault08.rosehosting.com 1398375531 Q * Ghislain Quit: Leaving. 1398380962 Q * funnel Remote host closed the connection 1398382894 Q * voegelas Remote host closed the connection 1398383052 J * voegelas ~voegelas@www.andreasvoegele.com