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1390377995 J * fback fback@red.fback.net
1390378013 Q * fback 
1390378068 J * fback fback@red.fback.net
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1390379575 J * thierryp ~thierry@zebra.inria.fr
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1390380238 J * Aiken ~Aiken@2001:44b8:2168:1000:21f:d0ff:fed6:d63f
1390383008 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1390383027 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1390383659 J * grembleb ~bengreen@cpc35-aztw23-2-0-cust207.18-1.cable.virginm.net
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1390387391 M * grembleb morning all
1390387417 M * grembleb can't compile 3.4.77 with the patch for 3.4.67, I get bad rejects
1390388277 M * Ghislain 3.4.76 works if you need a recent 3.4
1390388338 M * Ghislain until bertl fix it of course ^^
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1390389274 M * grembleb cheers Ghislain 
1390389338 M * grembleb got an error with 3.2.54 too now!
1390389351 M * grembleb looks trivial enough for even me to fix though
1390389606 M * grembleb ah, 3.10.27 also fails with the same error as 3.477
1390389625 M * grembleb linux/net/ipv4/inet_diag.c problem
1390389687 M * distemper (http://list.linux-vserver.org/archive?mss:6450:201401:ipeknpjmmhmhilfjefki
1390389937 M * glen eh, linux/net/ipv4/inet_diag.c again. it's it easier to publish new patch? :)
1390390035 M * grembleb thanks distemper 
1390390289 J * thierryp ~thierry@zebra.inria.fr
1390392389 M * Ghislain i have a 3.4.76 running fine without any modification of the patch so if  you go 3.4 go for this one and it should work with just a few hunk
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1390397929 M * undefined glen: maybe bertl could be persuaded to publish new patch with some funding ;)
1390397942 M * undefined glen: until then the mailing list patch works fine for me :D
1390397951 P * undefined 
1390398440 J * thierryp_ ~thierry@zebra.inria.fr
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1390402334 J * MC71 ~MadCow@0001c2a3.user.oftc.net
1390402357 J * geos_one ~chatzilla@80.123.185.198
1390402787 M * Ghislain well physical threat of burning him alive and kill his cat can acheive quite a good result too
1390402818 M * Ghislain this is perhaps a cultural thing, don't know
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1390406338 M * Jb_boin still no plan for 3.11 or 3.12?
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1390407591 M * Bertl_zZ morning folks!
1390407595 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1390407653 M * Ghislain i told you threaten the cat ! :p
1390408057 J * zerick ~eocrospom@190.187.21.53
1390408102 J * ksn ~ksn@00019501.user.oftc.net
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1390410754 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:a18:203:e401:1909:9e27:ff34:b2a8
1390411706 M * Bertl just for information: if somebody feels the urge to motivate me to do additional Linux-VServer patch work, feel free to send me hardware from my list (or just donate to my paypal account with a short message)
1390411949 M * Ghislain do you mean threatening you is not the way to go ? i'am too old school
1390412338 M * Bertl well, obviously you're not a cat person, otherwise you'd know :)
1390412415 A * MooingLemur purrs
1390412532 M * Ghislain lol
1390413187 M * ard so that list is still valid?
1390413639 M * Bertl mostly valid yes, in case you want to pick something or don't find something suitable just contact me, there is a lot of stuff I don't have on the list
1390413703 M * Bertl and of course, some items have a better price now and/or better versions available
1390413767 M * ard Like the SSD :-)
1390413773 M * Bertl for example, recently one of my port multipliers died, and a replacement would be very welcome (only makes sense for folks in the US)
1390413816 M * ard you use port multipliers in the vs?
1390413823 M * ard or? :-)
1390413916 M * Bertl I use port multipliers to attach raids to my server which among other things hold all the Linux-VServer kernels
1390413982 M * ard They are hard to get, especially sata 2+
1390413992 M * ard at least in NL
1390414016 M * ard And the one that I've seen didn't work due to chipset incompatabilities ;-).
1390414018 M * Bertl I found a shop in the US who still has them for about 70 USD
1390414038 M * Bertl but shipping to austria is like 40 USD :)
1390414069 M * ard I will ask a friend of mine who got that port-multiplier without it ever getting it to work ;-).
1390414069 M * Bertl http://www.pc-pitstop.com/sata_cables_adapters/3726PM.asp
1390414078 M * Bertl those are the ones I use
1390414078 M * tzanger hm, I am trying to set up a centos guest on a debian host. I'm having some trouble identifying why rpm/yum fail when trying to set up the guest
1390414093 M * tzanger ideally 'm going for centos6 but for now I'm sticking with the centos5 template that came with vserver
1390414111 M * ard I think there are no others, Silicon Image is the only one that made them as far as I know :-)
1390414119 M * Bertl tzanger: my suggestion is to build yum/rpm yourself, the debian packages are broken in this regard
1390414138 M * tzanger has anyone done much of this? bertl pointed me in the right direction that yum/rpm on debian is ... troublesome but I've not been able to get too much beyond that
1390414148 M * tzanger Bertl: build them from source?
1390414269 M * ard http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/283053/lycom-st-126-sata-ii-3gbps-1-to-5-port-multiplier-pci-low-profile-host-adapter.html unfortunately internal, but still 67 euro within the EU ...
1390414317 M * tzanger it looks like vrpm wraps rpm, but doesn't inherit the --debug param
1390414320 M * tzanger let me see if I can force that
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1390414423 J * l0kit ~1oxT@0001b54e.user.oftc.net
1390414436 M * Bertl ard: yeah, I tested a bunch of similar port multipliers, but I rather stick to the ones I love (and which I know work in my setup)
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1390414593 M * tzanger I think it's vsomething that is failing
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1390414698 M * tzanger Bertl: /usr/sbin/vspace --mount --fs --new -- /usr/lib/util-vserver/vrpm-worker /etc/vservers/james-centos5 --initdb
1390414701 M * tzanger mount: mount point /etc/rpm does not exist
1390414708 M * tzanger getting closer
1390414732 M * tzanger so it's vspace that is executing the mount and failing
1390414818 M * Bertl did you try the obvious? i.e. mkdir /etc/rpm ?
1390414825 M * tzanger + /bin/mount -n --bind /var/lib/vservers/.pkg/james-centos5/rpm/etc /etc/rpm
1390414826 Q * ard Quit: ard has no reason
1390414826 M * tzanger mount: mount point /etc/rpm does not exist
1390414837 J * ard ~ard@gw-cistron.kwaak.net
1390414848 M * tzanger I think it might want /etc/rpm in the guest template dir, not the vserver root dir
1390414861 M * tzanger maybe the centos5 template doesn't ahve that
1390415019 M * tzanger oh
1390415028 M * tzanger /etc/vservers/.distributions has no centos5
1390415093 M * tzanger find /usr/lib -name centos5
1390415094 M * tzanger er
1390415123 M * Bertl well, all rpm based distros have /etc/rpm, so I'd presume it should be there on the host and guest
1390415150 M * tzanger Bertl: my host is not rpm based, it is debian
1390415151 M * ard the host is debian ;-).
1390415327 M * tzanger odd, why would there be a /usr/lib/util-vserver/distributions/centos5 but no centos5 in /etc/vservers/.distributions?
1390415382 M * Bertl tzanger: yes, but you want to run yum/rpm _on_the_host_ to install with yum :)
1390415414 M * Bertl so you need to get rpm/yum working on your debian host first
1390415431 M * Bertl (already mentioned that a few days ago)
1390415473 M * tzanger Bertl: yes, I remember you mentioning it. wasn't sure how to interpret that
1390415492 M * tzanger rpm runs just fine, but not sure how to make it *do* anything on debian since the packages wouldn't be for the host
1390415557 M * Bertl so what about 'rpm -qa' on the host?
1390415566 A * ard was lazy and did the paypal thing
1390415596 M * Bertl ard: also very appreciated. thanks!
1390415795 M * tzanger rpm -qa just returns without printing anything
1390415805 M * ard that sounds good :-)
1390415809 M * tzanger I'm rpm stupid, I'm not sure what it should be printing
1390415813 M * ard (query all)
1390415818 M * Bertl okay, that's fine, now what about yum?
1390415823 M * ard it means you have a working empty database
1390415851 M * Bertl I don't use yum, but I'm sure it has a simple test command as well
1390415920 A * arekm doesn't ask usual question ;>
1390415941 M * Bertl yum list
1390415972 M * Bertl and probably 'yum list installed' should do
1390416390 J * MC71 ~MadCow@0001c2a3.user.oftc.net
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1390419006 J * Aiken ~Aiken@2001:44b8:2168:1000:21f:d0ff:fed6:d63f
1390419251 J * Rockj rockj@rockj.net
1390419296 M * Bertl 3.10.x kernel updated
1390420308 M * glen seems github repo issues are not watched? https://github.com/linux-vserver/util-vserver/issues
1390420536 M * Bertl check with daniel_hozac
1390420648 M * daniel_hozac they are, just haven't gotten around to doing anything to them yet.
1390422203 M * arekm 3.13 ;P
1390422277 M * Bertl you have a Linux-VServer patch already? great! :)
1390422583 M * arekm ehh, I'm not a maintainer of vs
1390422598 M * arekm so 3.13 not planned anytime soon after all?
1390422613 M * Bertl still on the plan/todo
1390422697 M * Bertl work in progress which just takes time to get finished
1390422729 M * Bertl asking 'is it done yet?' every second day won't speed it up
1390423098 M * arekm sorry, it became (ugly) habbit and obviously I lost hope long time ago
1390424941 M * glen arekm: why you want vserver for 3.13? better want lxc thing fixed :)
1390424967 M * arekm if only util-vserver supported lxc
1390424989 M * glen arekm: so far i know only one lxc incompatibility: it's the /proc pid issue i wrote to ml too
1390425006 M * arekm glen: host visibility issue?
1390425030 M * glen arekm: visibility issye yes, remove the word 'host'
1390425047 M * glen http://lists.pld-linux.org/mailman/pipermail/pld-devel-en/2014-January/023786.html
1390425076 M * glen lxc-only test: http://lists.pld-linux.org/mailman/pipermail/pld-devel-en/2014-January/023792.html
1390425121 M * arekm wasn't vserver part fixed ?
1390425159 M * glen no. never. fixed by whom?
1390425184 M * glen when i posted to mailinglist, haven't seen any patches since then from anybody
1390425197 M * tzanger Bertl: I was sure I did it before but apparently not. mkdir /etc/rpm fixed it. I have a centos6 guest now on a debian host. Thank you for your assistance
1390425203 M * tzanger very much appreciated
1390425212 M * arekm vserver bug (I assume), so vserver people likely
1390425250 M * glen arekm: no, no fixes. Bertl was only able to reproduce it, so it's not pld specific
1390425265 M * Bertl tzanger: you're welcome! http://www.linux-vserver.org/Donations
1390425314 M * arekm glen: so likely will get fixed at some point
1390425344 M * tzanger Bertl: acknowledged. when I get back home I'm going to see what I can do to help out
1390425533 M * arekm glen: write to  
1390425536 M * glen arekm: like your 3.13... *some point*
1390425540 M * arekm glen: vserver@list.linux-vserver.org, so it doesn't get lost
1390425561 M * arekm glen: 3.13 is less likely to happen (look at what happened with 3.11, 3.12)
1390425571 M * arekm blk-mq is the only temptation for Bertl ;)
1390425595 M * glen i hate mailing lists. in 2014 still to post have to go throught the junk of subscriing to ml and then unsubscribing to cut off the noise
1390425616 M * arekm write to me and I'll forward
1390425626 M * glen arekm: dunno, not following our kernel progress :) i'm fine with stable kernels
1390425639 M * glen arekm: just fwd this mail? http://lists.pld-linux.org/mailman/pipermail/pld-devel-en/2014-January/023792.html and top of the thread?
1390425696 M * arekm forwarding middle of thread without any background info is not a good choice
1390425781 M * glen the problem is short, with vserver patch /proc for process ids is broken (readdir returns entries but the pid dirs are ENOENT)
1390426155 M * Bertl (inside an LXC container that is)
1390426195 M * glen yes, exactly
1390426221 M * glen and i believe USER_NS (or whatever enables PID namespacing) needs to be enabled as well
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1390427063 M * arekm USER_NS is another vserver brokeness
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1390429928 M * glen how do i transfer annotated tag?
1390431094 J * MC71 ~MadCow@0001c2a3.user.oftc.net
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