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1383800283 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1383800299 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1383828747 M * aurel42 Hey, http://linux-vserver.org/Multicast <--- I *think* the interface is also necessary when a multicast user (like a UPnP server) wants to be seen by other multicast users in different vservers on the same machine?
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1383829141 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1383829161 M * Bertl morning folks!
1383830820 J * guerby ~guerby@ip165-ipv6.tetaneutral.net
1383831158 J * VirMan ~VirMan@www.nowhere-else.org
1383831234 M * VirMan Hi 
1383831244 M * VirMan got probably quick question
1383831275 M * VirMan i'm trying to compile util-vserver from latest sources or from ebuilds, but i got error:
1383831290 M * VirMan >> /usr/diet/lib-x86_64/libc.a(assert_fail.o): In function `__assert_fail': (.text+0x19a): undefined reference to `stpcpy'
1383831338 M * VirMan i'm using gentoo vserver sources on 64 bit platform - actually current gentoo
1383831342 M * VirMan freshly installed
1383831359 M * daniel_hozac sounds like your dietlibc is broken.
1383831368 M * VirMan hm.
1383831390 M * distemper yeah, either use <=gcc-4.6 or dietlibc from cvs, it's fixed there
1383831397 M * VirMan how to fix it ? i got them as they fetched autmatically with emerge
1383831403 M * VirMan ok..
1383831420 M * VirMan will try - thanks
1383831430 M * distemper i could provide you a cvs ebuild for dietlibc, if you want
1383831463 M * VirMan that would be very nice of you
1383831472 M * VirMan i wonder why it isnot in portage
1383831485 M * distemper http://bpaste.net/show/147563/
1383831491 M * VirMan or no one actually compiles vserver from portage by unmasking ;)
1383831510 M * distemper because nobody filed a bug and the maintainer seems to be short on time ;)
1383831641 M * VirMan hehe
1383831657 M * VirMan on e should reming him while it is on  - whoever he is ;)
1383831670 M * VirMan what would be version so i can name ebuild properly :P
1383831702 M * distemper dietlibc-9999.ebuild - normally cvs/git whatever has version 9999
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1383835744 M * VirMan hm
1383835776 M * VirMan tried this but getting error :
1383835779 M * VirMan Calculating dependencies - * Missing digest for '/usr/portage/dev-libs/dietlibc/dietlibc-9999.ebuild'
1383835786 M * VirMan when emerging by ebuild
1383835839 M * VirMan File "/usr/lib64/portage/pym/_emerge/depgraph.py", line 5350, in _pkg    metadata = zip(db_keys, db.aux_get(cpv, db_keys, myrepo=myrepo))  File "/usr/lib64/portage/pym/portage/dbapi/porttree.py", line 518, in aux_get    raise eyError(mycpv) KeyError: 'dev-libs/dietlibc-9999'
1383835863 M * distemper ebuild /usr/portage/dev-libs/dietlibc/dietlibc-9999.ebuild manifest
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1383836225 M * VirMan thx :)
1383836229 M * distemper but maybe you should google about to set up a local overlay
1383836230 J * Ghislain ~aqueos@adsl1.aqueos.com
1383836357 M * VirMan i'm anyway late few days with deployment because of super-duper software pseudo raid on c602 chipsed of supermicro mainboard i needed to make initrd and software mdadm (of course after wondering half day why it is not raided by hw.. ) it has even it's own bios which.. aaah - c602 and supermicro it is a world of it's own - so - sure - but once i deploy this :):)
1383836435 M * Bertl haven't had a chipset which does hardware raid (on a mainboard) for many years
1383836467 M * VirMan funny thing is they advertise it as raid with bios and else - one can be fooled ..
1383836513 M * VirMan i always used hp or dell hw.. and i was deceived by friend of mine fascinated by supermicro :P
1383836533 M * daniel_hozac i always do software RAID.
1383836566 J * treaki_ 7fd1757899@p4FDF6379.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1383836569 M * VirMan did you ever managed to get it hot swap automated ?
1383836594 M * VirMan like blackplane blinks faied drive and replace and sync is going automated ?
1383836620 M * VirMan i was never able to do this
1383836660 M * daniel_hozac wouldn't be too hard to do, but i haven't had a reason to automate it.
1383836671 M * daniel_hozac my drives don't fail that often.
1383836705 M * daniel_hozac (knock on wood)
1383836711 M * VirMan well drives don;t ail often if they are not an medium grade ssds ;) and if you have relativelly small amount of them ;)
1383836757 M * VirMan in my 5-6 towers it is usually one a month to replace
1383836770 M * VirMan i imagine biger deployments have way more maintenance
1383836795 M * daniel_hozac or just buy higher quality gear...
1383836845 M * renihs well, nothing todo against the MTTF 
1383836853 M * renihs if you have enough disks they will fail :)
1383836855 M * VirMan true.. just prices are crazy - paying 4 times more for the same performance in exchange for twice lifetime ? :) and it depends on drives - some are lasting very long , and some shorter.
1383836876 M * renihs 120 disks -> at least one per month on average :)
1383836927 Q * undefined Quit: Closing object
1383836935 M * VirMan if someone would add a way for software raid to detect (or bond) sas/sata channel instead of drive itself - it would be easy way to make hot swap 
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1383836969 M * renihs ?
1383836973 M * daniel_hozac that's local policy, not really up to mdadm.
1383836978 M * VirMan dream scenario is to have it nativelly in mdadm
1383836980 M * daniel_hozac a few udev rules should be able to do that.
1383836996 M * VirMan i'm not that hacky yet ;)
1383837076 J * undefined ~undefined@24.178.28.98
1383837084 M * VirMan got work of my own and not that much time to develop sth.. but maybe in future.. - or someone will be merciful enough to add this to mdadm - at that point i'm dropping lsi and doing software raids everywhere - it is simply faster.
1383837092 M * renihs VirMan, also fyi, i am gentoo having no issues compiling util-vserver or similar
1383837099 M * renihs i dont use dietlibc-9999 though
1383837103 M * VirMan hm.
1383837120 M * VirMan but do you have fresh install or upgraded ?
1383837142 M * renihs upgraded
1383837150 M * renihs well, like 6 years or like old system :)
1383837161 M * VirMan on thiose i also have no issues
1383837164 M * renihs not sure how that relates :)
1383837174 M * renihs um, at home, or in my vms
1383837177 M * renihs its fresh installed
1383837190 M * renihs dont understand how that would differ though?
1383837200 M * VirMan well - probably you don;t have newest gcc and else as mentioned previously
1383837210 M * VirMan or you have resident files
1383837216 M * VirMan dietlibc working
1383837233 M * VirMan so - no need for newer ones and it compiles fine
1383837246 M * renihs kk
1383837258 M * renihs not entirely catching your drift, but "compiles fine now" sounds good
1383837267 M * VirMan hehe :D
1383837447 M * renihs VirMan, if you are in the process or going through software raids, you might wanna look at ZOL too :)
1383838814 M * VirMan other thing - i'm trying to mount reiserfs with tagxid option but it blows up yelling about superblock (which is of course fake cause it mounts properly without tagxid option) - am i missing something ?
1383838834 M * VirMan do i need to format it with option or sth ?
1383838889 M * VirMan i have extended atributes in kernel compiled
1383838901 M * daniel_hozac what does dmesg say?
1383838920 M * daniel_hozac if it's a recent kernel, you probably want the tag option.
1383838961 M * VirMan [10371.694415] REISERFS warning (device md1): super-6502 reiserfs_getopt: unknown mount option "tagxid"
1383838982 M * VirMan hm checking .config
1383839093 M * VirMan REISERFS_FS_XATTR [=y]
1383839099 M * VirMan i got this already
1383839192 M * VirMan is there anything else i should enable ?
1383839230 M * daniel_hozac what version is it?
1383839245 M * VirMan 3.9.10-vs2.3.6.5
1383839991 M * daniel_hozac so you want -o tag
1383840149 M * VirMan to be able to do chxid
1383840188 M * daniel_hozac yes. the option hasn't been tagxid for years.
1383840310 M * VirMan ok..
1383840315 M * VirMan so now it calls tag
1383840325 M * VirMan it is called tag
1383840360 M * VirMan mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/md1
1383840422 M * VirMan on old system i have :
1383840432 M * VirMan >> /dev/sda3<-----><------>/vservers<----->reiserfs<------>noatime,attrs,tagxid
1383840457 M * VirMan this is no-one-knows how old
1383840695 M * VirMan mount /dev/md1 /vservers -t reiserfs -o notail,noatime,tag
1383840697 M * VirMan it fails
1383841743 M * VirMan so anyone have idea why ?
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1383842024 M * mnemoc fsck ?
1383842085 M * VirMan eemm this is freshly formatted ?
1383842094 M * daniel_hozac what does dmesg say?
1383842108 M * daniel_hozac also, if it's a fresh system, why are you putting reiserfs on it?
1383842120 M * VirMan [12823.749202] REISERFS warning (device md1): super-6502 reiserfs_getopt: unknown mount option "tag"
1383842121 M * mnemoc also, on one part you say /dev/sda3, on another /dev/md1
1383842145 M * VirMan well i always used reiserfs on vservers
1383842159 M * VirMan sda3 is ooooold machine where it works
1383842170 M * VirMan i'm installing new one
1383842179 M * VirMan probably i can use ext4 i guess
1383842186 M * mnemoc try without tagxid
1383842195 M * daniel_hozac reiserfs isn't supported for tagging in recent kernels.
1383842227 M * VirMan okkk thanks - i know why it fails now
1383842246 M * VirMan too bad - it is really fast with zilion small files
1383842508 M * VirMan k. works on ext4 noatime,tag
1383842785 M * Bertl off for dinner now ... bbl
1383843126 M * VirMan ok - i know tagxid worked on reiserfs with 3.4.0-vs2.3.3.4 - it was upgraded from 2.3.24.32 or sth some time ago - it says up 374 days, ;)
1383843178 M * VirMan it is ancient dell r300h with 24 gb ram :D - 2009 installed- oldest still runing box - respect to vserver ;)
1383843343 M * VirMan ok - going to replace failed drive :D  thanks guys :)
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1383847331 J * VirMan ~VirMan@www.nowhere-else.org
1383847346 M * VirMan :)
1383847368 M * VirMan init-vserver.sh missing - aborting while starting first freshly brewed guest
1383847727 M * Bertl off for now .. bbl
1383847731 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1383848221 M * VirMan ok it worked by initstyle plain
1383848260 M * VirMan funny it does not show system booting as it used to before - after you type vserver start
1383848280 M * VirMan i think i was not running new vserver boxes for looong time
1383848517 M * daniel_hozac with initstyle plain you never got output.
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1383849697 M * daniel_hozac to use initstyle gentoo you have to use -d gentoo when building the guest.
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1383855751 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1383855755 M * Bertl back now ...
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