1383178424 J * SteeleNivenson ~SteeleNiv@cpe-172-248-130-44.socal.res.rr.com
1383178912 Q * SteeleNivenson Read error: Operation timed out
1383179590 J * treaki_ 6629e240d4@p4FF4A436.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1383180021 Q * treaki__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1383181051 M * daniel_hozac Bertl_oO: http://people.linux-vserver.org/~dhozac/t/uv-testing/util-vserver-0.30.216-pre3052.tar.bz2
1383181087 M * daniel_hozac test with caution though, there may be a few instances of incorrect paths left.
1383181140 M * daniel_hozac automake forced a split into /usr/lib(64)/util-vserver, /usr/libexec/util-vserver, and /usr/share/util-vserver, so things are a bit more spread out as well.
1383181189 M * Bertl_oO wo 52, big leap!
1383181221 M * Bertl_oO I'll give it a check and report back any issues I find, thanks daniel_hozac!
1383181241 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net
1383181265 M * daniel_hozac also has the netns things, if you want to try that.
1383181345 M * Bertl_oO wow, great!
1383181372 M * Bertl_oO how are they configured? is there some info?
1383181385 M * Bertl_oO or should I just check with the flower page?
1383181505 M * daniel_hozac mkdir -p /etc/vservers/$guest/netns/interfaces/0; echo ${guest}0 > /etc/vservers/$guest/netns/interfaces/0/host
1383181512 M * daniel_hozac is the bare minimum
1383182076 M * daniel_hozac we'll see about updating the great flower page, it seems to be acting weird...
1383182089 M * daniel_hozac i may have just forgotten how to use CVS though.
1383182194 M * Bertl_oO LOL
1383182283 M * daniel_hozac oh, there it goes.
1383182405 M * daniel_hozac vservers-default is broken in 3052, building a new tarball now.
1383182559 M * daniel_hozac okay, 3053 has that working at least.
1383184722 Q * thierryp Remote host closed the connection
1383184743 J * thierryp ~thierry@2a01:e35:2e2b:e2c0:3c6d:4762:84bd:200d
1383185225 Q * thierryp Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1383195508 J * undefined ~undefined@00011a48.user.oftc.net
1383195786 M * undefined Bertl_oO: thanks for the patchset for secure_mount, it worked!
1383195860 M * Bertl_oO thanks for testing!
1383195879 M * undefined Bertl_oO: you're welcome
1383197257 M * Bertl_oO off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1383197261 N * Bertl_oO Bertl_zZ
1383199694 J * jrklein_ ~osx@proxy.dnihost.net
1383199696 J * click_ click@ice.vcon.no
1383199814 J * PowerKe ~tom@94-227-30-112.access.telenet.be
1383199830 J * AndrewLe1 ~andrew@210.240.39.201
1383199858 Q * ivan` Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1383199859 J * harry ~harry@enzoverder.be
1383199863 Q * click resistance.oftc.net weber.oftc.net
1383199863 Q * jrklein resistance.oftc.net weber.oftc.net
1383199863 Q * fback resistance.oftc.net weber.oftc.net
1383199863 Q * swenTjuln resistance.oftc.net weber.oftc.net
1383199863 Q * wmp resistance.oftc.net weber.oftc.net
1383199863 Q * PowerKe_ resistance.oftc.net weber.oftc.net
1383199863 Q * harry_ resistance.oftc.net weber.oftc.net
1383199863 Q * ggherdov resistance.oftc.net weber.oftc.net
1383199863 Q * _nono_ resistance.oftc.net weber.oftc.net
1383199863 Q * AndrewLee resistance.oftc.net weber.oftc.net
1383199863 J * fback fback@red.fback.net
1383199877 J * ggherdov uid11402@ealing.irccloud.com
1383199885 J * swenTjuln ~Marko@195.95.173.243
1383199950 J * jrklein ~osx@proxy.dnihost.net
1383199950 J * harry_ ~harry@enzoverder.be
1383199950 J * wmp ~wmp@2001:41d0:1:8616::1
1383199950 J * _nono_ ~gomes@licencieux.ircam.fr
1383199954 Q * jrklein Max SendQ exceeded
1383199954 Q * _nono_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1383199979 Q * harry_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1383200201 Q * geos_one Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 23.0/20130824204146]
1383200289 J * ivan` ~ivan`@000130ca.user.oftc.net
1383200631 J * _nono_ ~gomes@licencieux.ircam.fr
1383209646 J * thierryp ~thierry@2a01:e35:2e2b:e2c0:5118:279:a4c4:ab1b
1383209825 J * geos_one ~chatzilla@mail.stenum.at
1383210001 Q * fisted Remote host closed the connection
1383210027 J * fisted ~fisted@xdsl-78-35-82-64.netcologne.de
1383210632 J * BenG_ ~bengreen@cpc35-aztw23-2-0-cust207.18-1.cable.virginm.net
1383211554 Q * BenG_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1383211575 J * beng_ ~BenG@cpc35-aztw23-2-0-cust207.18-1.cable.virginm.net
1383217302 J * Ghislain ~aqueos@adsl1.aqueos.com
1383218618 Q * treaki_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1383220294 Q * ivan` Remote host closed the connection
1383220835 Q * Aiken Remote host closed the connection
1383220864 J * ivan` ~ivan`@000130ca.user.oftc.net
1383222185 M * renihs daniel_hozac, hmm i modified according to https://github.com/linux-vserver/util-vserver/commit/17934b20a950a27e1b2e887eee718f0e29ab9981
1383222191 M * renihs however i am abit confused now
1383222234 M * renihs attempting to start a vserver results in: Cannot not create namespace file "/var/run/netns/pexus": File exists
1383222259 M * renihs it also removed all existing namespaces and veths (i played around with)
1383222264 M * renihs it seems, at least they are gone :)
1383222294 M * daniel_hozac sounds like the namespace you wanted to use already existed.
1383222305 M * renihs i would agree, and it did exist initially, now its gone :)
1383222323 M * renihs if i remove the file, and try to start: Error: either "dev" is duplicate, or "geth0" is a garbage.
1383222330 M * renihs not sure where "geth0" comes from
1383222338 M * renihs my veth devices were named differently
1383222403 M * daniel_hozac did you tell util-vserver that?
1383222415 M * renihs oh, damn, there actually was a namespace left, so the first error is to be expected
1383222448 M * daniel_hozac from what command do you get the geth0 error? i.e. what does --debug say?
1383222502 M * renihs hold on, there is some snafu in the configuration steps, let me redo/try again :p
1383222536 M * renihs should i create the veth pair or does vserver take care of that when creating a new vserver? :p
1383222591 M * daniel_hozac it creates pairs according to /etc/vservers/<guest>/netns/interfaces
1383222674 M * renihs well as you said i did: echo ${guest}0 > /etc/vservers/$guest/netns/interfaces/0/host
1383222689 M * daniel_hozac so that will create one pair where the host end will be called ${guest}0
1383222703 M * renihs and the other end?
1383222720 M * daniel_hozac gethX by default, set guest to override.
1383222726 M * renihs ah k 
1383222768 M * renihs um, stupid question i guess, but if i create a new vserver from template, what should i define then as --interface?
1383222778 M * renihs the future veth? nothing? 
1383222810 M * daniel_hozac do you want to use network isolation as well? otherwise i'd just set nothing, and set /etc/vservers/<guest>/noncontext when the build is done.
1383222826 M * renihs k
1383222842 M * daniel_hozac but then it's up to the guest to configure the interface(s).
1383222881 M * renihs well, at the moment i am still trying to understand the steps that i am actually doing so will try with no interface now :)
1383223169 M * renihs hmm well deployed new vserver (no interfaces) named "testus", mkdir -p /etc/vservers/testus/netns/interfaces/0 ; echo testus0 > /etc/vservers/testus/netns/interfaces/0/host 
1383223180 M * renihs then starting vserver results in: Error: either "dev" is duplicate, or "geth0" is a garbage.
1383223184 M * renihs it did create the namespace testus
1383223187 M * renihs but not the veths
1383223193 M * renihs seems to be a typo somewhere
1383223204 M * renihs --debug now :9
1383223351 M * daniel_hozac looks like it's missing a name
1383223359 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1383223364 M * Bertl morning folks!
1383223397 M * daniel_hozac https://github.com/linux-vserver/util-vserver/commit/9f93bdab956e27b3ee565998c57fdb976a07f8b9
1383223405 M * daniel_hozac morning Bertl
1383223537 Q * wmp reticulum.oftc.net resistance.oftc.net
1383223537 Q * geos_one reticulum.oftc.net resistance.oftc.net
1383223537 Q * hparker reticulum.oftc.net resistance.oftc.net
1383223537 Q * arekm reticulum.oftc.net resistance.oftc.net
1383223537 Q * sannes reticulum.oftc.net resistance.oftc.net
1383223537 Q * ex reticulum.oftc.net resistance.oftc.net
1383223537 Q * sladen reticulum.oftc.net resistance.oftc.net
1383223537 Q * disposable reticulum.oftc.net resistance.oftc.net
1383223537 Q * mnemoc reticulum.oftc.net resistance.oftc.net
1383223537 Q * DLange reticulum.oftc.net resistance.oftc.net
1383223537 Q * fisted reticulum.oftc.net resistance.oftc.net
1383223537 Q * PowerKe reticulum.oftc.net resistance.oftc.net
1383223537 Q * padde reticulum.oftc.net resistance.oftc.net
1383223537 Q * kshannon reticulum.oftc.net resistance.oftc.net
1383223537 Q * Defaultti reticulum.oftc.net resistance.oftc.net
1383223537 Q * MooingLemur reticulum.oftc.net resistance.oftc.net
1383223537 Q * mikeez reticulum.oftc.net resistance.oftc.net
1383223537 Q * rootard reticulum.oftc.net resistance.oftc.net
1383223537 Q * clopez reticulum.oftc.net resistance.oftc.net
1383223537 Q * ivan` reticulum.oftc.net resistance.oftc.net
1383223537 Q * swenTjuln reticulum.oftc.net resistance.oftc.net
1383223537 Q * ensc|w reticulum.oftc.net resistance.oftc.net
1383223537 Q * Jb_boin reticulum.oftc.net resistance.oftc.net
1383223537 Q * _BWare_ reticulum.oftc.net resistance.oftc.net
1383223537 Q * Romster reticulum.oftc.net resistance.oftc.net
1383223537 Q * _Shiva_ reticulum.oftc.net resistance.oftc.net
1383223537 Q * jrayhawk reticulum.oftc.net resistance.oftc.net
1383223537 Q * ggherdov reticulum.oftc.net resistance.oftc.net
1383223655 M * renihs morning Bertl :)
1383223660 M * renihs daniel_hozac, yeah, that fixed it 
1383223672 M * renihs i do have the expected testus0 device on the host now 
1383223695 M * renihs however, i cannot e.g do a link list on the namespace, confusing hmm
1383223716 M * renihs ip netns exec testus ip link list -> results in:
1383223719 M * renihs seting the network namespace "testus" failed: Invalid argument
1383223725 M * renihs funny typo too (seting) :)
1383223742 M * daniel_hozac interesting
1383223762 M * renihs the guest complains about not having a /proc/net/dev 
1383223763 M * renihs :)
1383223791 M * renihs which is kinda expected though? (no interface on deploy)
1383223800 M * renihs the failing ip link list is strange though
1383223863 M * renihs if i strace it:
1383223864 M * Bertl are we still at pre3053 or is that obsolete by now? :)
1383223866 M * renihs open("/var/run/netns/testus", O_RDONLY) = 4
1383223866 M * renihs setns(4, 1073741824)                    = -1 EINVAL (Invalid argument)
1383224040 M * daniel_hozac just uploaded 3054
1383224191 M * daniel_hozac renihs: interesting...
1383224221 J * ivan` ~ivan`@000130ca.user.oftc.net
1383224221 J * fisted ~fisted@xdsl-78-35-82-64.netcologne.de
1383224221 J * wmp ~wmp@2001:41d0:1:8616::1
1383224221 J * swenTjuln ~Marko@195.95.173.243
1383224221 J * ggherdov uid11402@ealing.irccloud.com
1383224221 J * PowerKe ~tom@94-227-30-112.access.telenet.be
1383224221 J * hparker ~hparker@0000fb24.user.oftc.net
1383224221 J * ensc|w ~ensc@62.153.82.27
1383224221 J * Jb_boin ~dedior@proxad.eu
1383224221 J * padde ~padde@patrick-nagel.net
1383224221 J * _BWare_ ~itsme@31.25.99.5
1383224221 J * kshannon ~kris@kris.shannon.id.au
1383224221 J * Defaultti defaultti@lakka.kapsi.fi
1383224221 J * MooingLemur ~troy@phx-pnap.pinchaser.com
1383224221 J * arekm ~arekm@000161e0.user.oftc.net
1383224221 J * sannes ~ace@cm-84.211.100.82.getinternet.no
1383224221 J * Romster ~romster@202.168.100.149.dynamic.rev.eftel.com
1383224221 J * DLange ~DLange@dlange.user.oftc.net
1383224221 J * mnemoc ~amery@geeks.cl
1383224221 J * disposable disposable@shell.websupport.sk
1383224221 J * sladen ~paul@starsky.19inch.net
1383224221 J * ex ~ex@valis.net.pl
1383224221 J * clopez ~tau@neutrino.es
1383224221 J * jrayhawk ~jrayhawk@nursie.omgwallhack.org
1383224221 J * mikeez ~mike@ks367289.kimsufi.com
1383224221 J * rootard ~rootard@pirlshell.lpl.arizona.edu
1383224221 J * _Shiva_ shiva@whatcha.looking.at
1383224502 Q * thierryp Remote host closed the connection
1383224523 J * thierryp ~thierry@2a01:e35:2e2b:e2c0:5118:279:a4c4:ab1b
1383224541 M * renihs not sure if that helps, but here is the paste for the netns strace: http://pastebin.com/1sGrRc3H
1383225005 Q * thierryp Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1383225180 M * renihs hmm ok, if i manually try to assign the device to the namespace i get "invalid argument"
1383225191 M * renihs if i create a new namespace and create a new pair -> works (for the new namespace)
1383225207 M * renihs but i *cant* assign the new pair i just created manually to the "testus" namespace
1383225210 M * renihs which is kinda wierd
1383225261 M * daniel_hozac that may be because of filesystem namespaces...
1383225338 M * renihs hmm 
1383225438 M * renihs any way i could debug/rule out that? 
1383225476 M * renihs so testus would a be filesystem namespace AND a network namespace now?
1383225559 M * daniel_hozac no, but the network namespace is only reachable from inside the guest filesystem namespace most likely.
1383225569 M * daniel_hozac although it may have gotten unmounted there.
1383225595 M * daniel_hozac try setting nonamespace on the guest, but that's just for a test... can't really do that in production :)
1383225744 M * renihs k will try
1383225752 M * renihs currently it doesnt want to stop my guest :)
1383225778 M * renihs Cannot not create namespace file "/var/run/netns/testus": File exists :)
1383225784 M * renihs guess need to remove that file after stopping :)
1383225830 M * renihs daniel_hozac, that worked
1383225839 M * renihs 9: geth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN mode DEFAULT qlen 1000
1383225847 M * renihs is now in the namespace testus 
1383225864 J * thierryp ~thierry@2a01:e35:2e2b:e2c0:913b:6a63:c49f:2a0f
1383225871 M * renihs also it doesnt complain anymore about the netns file existing
1383225875 M * daniel_hozac okay, good.
1383225883 M * renihs after another restart :)
1383225910 M * renihs now i am confused about the nonamespace thogh
1383225912 M * renihs "Disable namespace usage globally"
1383225922 M * renihs doesnt seem to apply to network namespaces? :)
1383225934 Q * thierryp Remote host closed the connection
1383225954 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net
1383225966 M * renihs since i seem to be having a working namespace now :)
1383225975 M * daniel_hozac it's just filesystem namespaces.
1383225982 M * renihs ah k 
1383226056 M * renihs ok, but if i setup without interfaces, guest would have to setup networking from inside?
1383226087 M * daniel_hozac yes
1383226106 M * renihs but could i use a veth device on vserver creation? 
1383226121 M * daniel_hozac no, not right now.
1383226136 M * renihs k thought so, still worth a shot :)
1383226145 M * daniel_hozac interface in general doesn't make much sense for network namespaces.
1383226154 M * renihs true that
1383226172 M * renihs still, there are some vserver i dont mind configuring from inside (actually even better)
1383226179 M * renihs but some i wouldnt give so much control :)
1383226195 M * renihs anyhow, thanks already alot, will play around with that now :)
1383226199 M * daniel_hozac then isolation is most likely better than namespaces.
1383226232 M * renihs hmm i still tinkering with the vswitch integration stuff thingies
1383226238 M * renihs in which case i would want/require namespaces
1383226277 M * renihs hmm well, thanks arlready alot! will play around and hit practical limitations etc soon enough :)
1383226436 Q * thierryp Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1383228499 J * geos_one ~chatzilla@85-125-139-162.work.xdsl-line.inode.at
1383230664 M * renihs daniel_hozac, hmm however, i cannot see/configure the geth0 interface inside the guest 
1383230688 M * renihs should i add a dummy interface or something? (since /proc/net/dev is missing)
1383230701 M * daniel_hozac did you create noncontext?
1383231176 Q * undefined Quit: Machine going to sleep
1383231200 M * renihs you mean ncontext?
1383231207 M * daniel_hozac no. noncontext
1383231211 M * daniel_hozac to disable the network isolation
1383231220 M * renihs oh, um, erm brb
1383231383 M * renihs okok works :
1383231396 M * renihs however, i failed to find that in the docs :)
1383231405 M * renihs so much information learned everytime i visit here :p
1383231442 M * Bertl :)
1383231511 M * renihs thanks again daniel_hozac :)
1383231545 M * daniel_hozac hmm, yeah, that is missing.
1383231610 M * renihs ah good, not just me failing again :)
1383231615 M * renihs i also asked google :)
1383231626 M * renihs anyhow, hmm iptables worky worky inside guest namespace
1383231628 M * renihs me happy camper
1383231655 M * renihs now to get back to the orginial problem, creating the tunnel :p
1383231666 M * renihs iirc i applied Bertls patch 
1383231686 M * renihs first coffee, also office dog is crying, brb
1383232261 M * renihs daniel_hozac, hmm but i can only set the ip address from outside the guest, when entering the namespace, not from within 
1383232290 M * renihs no biggie, will do with post scripts but not sure if supposed to be like that 
1383232411 M * Bertl I'd say that is missing capabilities (bcaps in this case)
1383232600 Q * clopez Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.
1383232617 J * clopez ~tau@neutrino.es
1383233493 Q * ncopa Quit: Leaving
1383233605 M * renihs hmm but giving that ability would kinda weaken alot more?
1383233659 M * Bertl somewhat, but you can't have both, can you?
1383233686 M * Bertl i.e. abilitiy to mess with the guest stack and security that nobody can mess with the guest stack :)
1383233772 J * ncopa ~test@3.203.202.84.customer.cdi.no
1383233950 M * renihs well, as long as he can *only* mess with that specific namespace i have no issues
1383234051 M * renihs would that be confined to the namespace in question?
1383234144 M * Bertl that is what mainline folks claim of the network namespace, no?
1383234163 M * Bertl so yes, I presume it should be safe, but I guess nobody checked yet :)
1383235282 Q * geos_one Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 23.0/20130824204146]
1383236530 Q * beng_ Quit: I Leave
1383236681 J * thierryp ~thierry@2a01:e35:2e2b:e2c0:4c5b:d2b9:f025:fceb
1383236720 M * renihs Bertl, ;)
1383237201 Q * thierryp Remote host closed the connection
1383237221 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net
1383237706 Q * thierryp Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1383237737 J * hijacker ~hijacker@cable-84-43-134-121.mnet.bg
1383238070 J * wiuempe ~wmp-freen@212.106.19.81
1383238100 M * wiuempe hello, is possibel to add interface to vserver without restart him?
1383238335 M * Bertl when you mean IPs when you say 'interfaces' then yes
1383238365 M * wiuempe i have interface 0 with dev eth0, and i want add interface 1 with dev dummy0
1383238374 M * Bertl you can simply add the IPs to whatever interface you like on the host, and then reconfigure the guest (i.e. add the IPs) manually
1383238398 M * Bertl (with naddress)
1383238424 M * wiuempe Bertl: reconfigure the guest without reboot him, yes?
1383238438 M * Bertl yup, naddress works on the running guest
1383238454 M * Bertl but you probably want to add the proper config as well, for the next time you reboot 
1383238967 J * thierryp ~thierry@2a01:e35:2e2b:e2c0:444d:19d3:6f53:ae77
1383239028 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:a18:224:2e01:2d81:8d6:ceb:199d
1383239384 J * geos_one ~chatzilla@80.123.185.198
1383241119 J * SteeleNivenson ~SteeleNiv@cpe-172-248-130-44.socal.res.rr.com
1383242278 Q * thierryp Remote host closed the connection
1383242299 J * thierryp ~thierry@2a01:e35:2e2b:e2c0:444d:19d3:6f53:ae77
1383242780 Q * thierryp Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1383245605 N * l0kit Guest4012
1383245610 J * l0kit ~1oxT@0001b54e.user.oftc.net
1383246010 Q * Guest4012 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1383246630 J * thierryp ~thierry@2a01:e35:2e2b:e2c0:4d93:962f:d5dc:f780
1383246847 Q * thierryp Remote host closed the connection
1383246868 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net
1383246904 M * wiuempe Bertl: after ifup dummy0 i have error: ifup: failed to open statefile /var/run/network/ifstate: No such file or directory
1383246941 Q * SteeleNivenson Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1383246954 M * Bertl I guess you haven't made a configuration for dummy0 on your host
1383246972 M * Bertl note that ifup only executes the necessary scripts
1383246993 M * Bertl also make sure that you have a dummy network device (module loaded, etc)
1383247037 M * wiuempe Bertl: i have
1383247132 M * Bertl good, so 'ip a l' shows the dummy device?
1383247154 M * wiuempe yes
1383247199 M * Bertl try 'ifconfig dumm0 up'
1383247227 M * wiuempe Bertl: http://wklej.org/id/1163461
1383247237 M * wiuempe dummy0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
1383247309 M * daniel_hozac you have to handle networking on the host.
1383247331 M * wiuempe daniel_hozac: handle networking?
1383247351 Q * thierryp Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1383247495 M * Bertl you want to do the ifconfig and 'ip' commands on the host
1383247531 M * wiuempe i do on host ifup dummy0
1383247533 M * wiuempe and works good
1383247564 Q * hijacker Quit: Leaving
1383248419 Q * Ghislain Quit: Leaving.
1383250359 Q * Romster Read error: Connection reset by peer
1383250517 J * Aiken ~Aiken@2001:44b8:2168:1000:21f:d0ff:fed6:d63f
1383250748 J * treaki 8ebeecad14@p4FDF6B07.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1383251020 M * harry can someone explain this?:
1383251021 M * harry http://pastebin.ca/2472768
1383251037 M * harry it's an ubuntu server with an ubuntu guest
1383251043 M * harry init-style is set to plain
1383251143 M * Bertl you mean, can we explain why sshd died and 'service' doesn't know about it or what?
1383251182 M * Bertl I presume the 'service' script/command checks for a pid file, which is probably still there
1383251223 M * Bertl for the part why sshd died, I'd suspect it collided with an host sshd, and stopped without further notice or something like that
1383251245 M * Bertl (but I didn't polish my crystal ball today, so ...)
1383251757 J * SteeleNivenson ~SteeleNiv@cpe-172-248-130-44.socal.res.rr.com
1383251866 M * harry found it
1383251872 M * harry my stupid mistake
1383251879 M * harry sshd listened on 0.0.0.0 on the host
1383251887 M * harry ==> ssh in guest does nono
1383251891 M * harry makes sense
1383251924 M * harry btw Bertl you SHOULD polish your crystal ball regularly
1383251931 M * harry keeps it nice and shiny
1383252165 M * Bertl yeah, but I'm out of polish cream :)
1383252184 M * Bertl *polishing
1383252202 M * harry we have a lot of polish people at work
1383252207 M * harry squeeze some of them out
1383252208 M * harry ;)
1383253124 Q * MooingLemur Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1383253202 Q * fisted Remote host closed the connection
1383253225 J * fisted ~fisted@xdsl-87-78-232-103.netcologne.de
1383253317 J * MooingLemur ~troy@phx-pnap.pinchaser.com
1383254506 M * harry root     30386   101 ns1            0.0  0.0   4480   296 ?        R    22:11   0:00 iscsid
1383254511 M * harry i can't kill it! :(
1383254571 M * Bertl did you try to kill nfsd or khelper recently?
1383254602 M * harry no
1383254614 M * harry we 'forgot" it was there... forgot to disable it
1383254623 M * harry and now we can't stop this process for some reason
1383254631 M * daniel_hozac even with kill -9?
1383254633 M * harry tried vkill -c xid etc...
1383254634 M * harry yes
1383254644 M * harry vkill -c 101 -s 9 30486
1383254647 M * harry nothing
1383254684 M * Bertl well, it is probably stuck in some network communication
1383254698 M * harry how do i stop it?
1383254706 M * harry without a reboot preferably
1383254732 M * daniel_hozac type the right pid?
1383254742 M * Bertl LOL
1383254756 M * Bertl indeed, nice catch
1383254758 M * harry did that
1383254763 M * harry just a typo here
1383254786 M * Bertl why do the folks always type copies of commands on IRC?
1383254798 M * Bertl that is what copy/paste was designed for!!!
1383254805 M * Bertl :)
1383254805 M * daniel_hozac to ensure proper confusion
1383254834 M * Bertl yeah, dialogs usually go like this:
1383254843 M * Bertl when I type 'A' nothing happens
1383254850 M * Bertl well, you should type 'B'
1383254860 M * Bertl that's what I meant, it was a typo :)
1383254866 M * harry that doesn't solve my problem
1383254871 M * harry rebooting anyway... 
1383254891 M * Bertl if it is network related, rebooting is your best option anyway
1383254992 M * harry reboot fixed it! :p
1383257375 Q * SteeleNivenson Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1383258213 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving
1383258514 J * grembleb ~bengreen@cpc35-aztw23-2-0-cust207.18-1.cable.virginm.net
1383258584 Q * grembleb 
1383261536 J * SteeleNivenson ~SteeleNiv@cpe-172-248-130-44.socal.res.rr.com
1383262851 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net
1383262926 M * Bertl off for a nap ... bbl
1383262931 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1383262934 Q * thierryp Remote host closed the connection
1383262955 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net
1383263440 Q * thierryp Ping timeout: 480 seconds