1372904927 Q * Aiken Remote host closed the connection
1372905998 Q * Rylai Quit: K
1372907235 J * Aiken ~Aiken@2001:44b8:2168:1000:21f:d0ff:fed6:d63f
1372912991 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1372913001 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1372916365 J * grembleb ~bengreen@cpc35-aztw23-2-0-cust207.18-1.cable.virginmedia.com
1372921037 J * Ghislain ~aqueos@adsl1.aqueos.com
1372929985 J * benl ~benl@dockoffice.sonassihosting.com
1372930020 M * benl Hey troops
1372930204 Q * neofutur Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1372930890 M * benl Looking at the debian psand repo for util-vserver - it looks like its been split up into a few different packages
1372930905 M * benl util-vserver-build etc.
1372930945 M * benl As the package on this repo had the wrong vsroot configured (/vservers, not /var/lib/vservers) - I figured I'd just compile from source
1372930964 M * benl but compiling from source led to a number of warnings about LSB information being missing on the init scripts
1372930969 M * benl (v_ssh etc.)
1372930996 M * benl I can grab the debian package source from psand and re-package it - but I cant see where to change the vsroot - could anyone guide me
1372931178 M * daniel_hozac is there any reason you don't just change /etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase?
1372931405 M * daniel_hozac but just add --with-vrootdir to the configure
1372931773 M * benl I did that
1372931785 M * benl But when compiling from source, all the init scripts are missing LSB information
1372931836 M * benl whereas the debian build has the correct init scripts
1372931860 M * benl but the wrong vrootdir
1372931879 M * benl so I was wondering how I can change the debian package configuration options to have the right vrootdir
1372931964 M * benl because with a debian package, you don't use "./configure" - you use dpkg-buildpackage
1372932088 M * daniel_hozac dpkg still runs configure
1372932284 M * benl okay
1372932294 M * benl So what I'm asking is where to change the option where this is defined
1372932734 M * daniel_hozac debian/rules
1372933031 M * benl thanks
1372934389 M * benl Darn
1372934395 M * benl the psand repo doesn't have any source
1372934430 M * benl When compiling on debian from source, other than the missing LSB information in the init scripts - is there anything else that could potentially cause an issue?
1372934444 M * daniel_hozac any reason to not just build packages?
1372934479 M * benl There is no deb-src on the psand repo?
1372934500 M * benl And the squeeze source vastly out of date
1372934559 M * daniel_hozac the util-vserver tarballs should have everything needed.
1372934593 M * benl so what is the proceedure then?
1372934630 M * daniel_hozac i don't know, i am not a Debian person.
1372934635 M * benl :(
1372934911 M * distemper i once tried (for fun), i just typed 'debuild' in the source tree and it built a woking .deb 
1372934956 M * benl are all the new init scripts "v_sshd" necessary/
1372935028 M * benl on the psand build - it doesn't install any of those init scripts
1372935034 M * benl but when building from source, it adds them all
1372935083 M * benl Eg http://paste.linux-vserver.org/23941
1372935387 M * daniel_hozac those are all in util-vserver-legacy
1372935419 M * benl So are they not necessary?
1372935460 M * benl Ie. after I build the package from (your) source and install it - I can just remove those init scripts?
1372935472 M * daniel_hozac yes
1372935497 M * benl is there a configuration option to configure without util-vserver-legacy?
1372935781 M * daniel_hozac no
1372935988 M * benl Oh
1372935998 M * benl So are those init scripts the only parts that need to be removed?
1372936259 Q * ircuser-1 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1372936393 Q * alpha_one_x86 Quit: KVIrc KVIrc Aria 4.3.1, revision: 6250, sources date: 20120701, built on: 2013-03-26 15:17:55 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/
1372936396 M * daniel_hozac "need to be"? to what end?
1372937667 J * alpha_one_x86 ~kvirc@190.186.23.221
1372937675 P * alpha_one_x86 
1372939620 Q * Aiken Remote host closed the connection
1372939693 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1372939698 M * Bertl morning folks!
1372939710 J * ircuser-1 ~ircuser-1@35.222-62-69.ftth.swbr.surewest.net
1372940662 M * benl yEllo
1372940679 M * benl "are those init scripts the only parts that need to be removed?" - ie. in order to remove vserver-legacy
1372940697 M * benl given it can't be compiled without it, how can it be removed post install - to prevent any future errors
1372940702 M * benl LSB errors in init scripts etc.
1372940795 M * Bertl by default, there are several packages one being vserver-legacy
1372940808 M * Bertl (util-vserver-legacy actually)
1372940831 M * Bertl just don't install the legacy package if you do not need it
1372941981 M * benl I'm compiling from source
1372942009 M * benl Because the debian packages have the wrong vrootdir
1372942019 M * benl (/vservers vs. /var/lib/vservers)
1372942025 M * benl (from the psand repo)
1372942673 M * daniel_hozac check the manifest for what is included in the legacy package
1372945184 M * benl Where is that?
1372945722 J * ser ~ser@host1.tldp.ibiblio.org
1372945905 M * daniel_hozac contrib/manifest.dat
1372945974 J * ser_ ~ser@host1.tldp.ibiblio.org
1372946267 Q * ser Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1372947114 M * benl So given I cannot compile without legacy
1372947129 M * benl is there any issue deleting the files it places around the machine ?
1372947147 M * benl http://paste.linux-vserver.org/23942
1372947147 Q * ser_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1372947154 M * daniel_hozac if you for some reason care, just remember to do it every time you upgrade.
1372947167 M * benl Well its causing problems
1372947169 M * benl That's the issue
1372947184 M * benl The missing LSB information on all the init scripts prevents "apt-get" from working
1372947199 M * benl because it always fails on `insserv` due to init scripts missing LSB info
1372947223 M * benl So basically, those init scripts (from legacy) are breaking the entire package management system from working
1372947244 M * benl so I'm asking what I need to remove, that is no longer necessary, that will prevent the entire OS being broken by util-vserver-legacy
1372947326 M * Bertl how about updating those scripts to provide the LSB info and submitting a patch?
1372947369 M * Bertl shouldn't be more than a few lines, IIRC
1372947508 M * benl I can do if neccessary?
1372947526 M * benl That's why I originally asked if they were even used any more
1372947538 M * benl and Daniel said they were just "old" init files
1372947852 M * Bertl well, some folks still use them to put services into network namespaces
1372947860 M * Bertl s/namespaces/contexts/
1372947879 M * Bertl that's what they were designed for
1372947890 M * benl Okay, in that case, I'll come up with some fixes.
1372947917 M * Bertl a few 'comments' which make the LSB check happy should do the trick ... I guess
1372948045 M * benl I found a newsgroup the other day where someone found I/O issues with squeeze vserver
1372948052 M * benl the stock kernel
1372948094 M * Bertl not quite unexpected :)
1372948116 M * benl You did say ... :p
1372948124 M * benl somewhat re-affirming though
1372948135 M * Bertl hehe, yeah, I can imagine
1372951732 M * Bertl off for now ... bbl
1372951736 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1372952742 Q * nkukard Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1372953741 J * nkukard ~nkukard@41-133-139-35.dsl.mweb.co.za
1372953959 J * alpha_one_x86 ~kvirc@190.186.23.221
1372956109 J * hijacker_ ~hijacker@cable-84-43-134-121.mnet.bg
1372956982 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:a18:20b:a301:45a7:9b21:37e:a09a
1372957510 M * benl Here's a (crude) script to fix the sysv scripts
1372957511 M * benl http://paste.linux-vserver.org/23943
1372960425 Q * Ghislain Quit: Leaving.
1372961480 M * Bertl_oO off for a nap ... bbl
1372961489 N * Bertl_oO Bertl_zZ
1372961852 Q * benl Quit:  HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- s0 d4Mn l33t |t'z 5c4rY!
1372965036 Q * Vudumen Remote host closed the connection
1372965347 J * Aiken ~Aiken@2001:44b8:2168:1000:21f:d0ff:fed6:d63f
1372965391 J * Vudumen ~vudumen@perverz.hu
1372967917 Q * hijacker_ Quit: Leaving
1372969653 Q * sannes Remote host closed the connection
1372971942 N * l0kit Guest2124
1372971950 J * l0kit ~1oxT@0001b54e.user.oftc.net
1372972349 Q * Guest2124 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1372973910 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving
1372974518 Q * sladen Quit: leaving
1372974552 J * sladen ~paul@starsky.19inch.net
1372974685 Q * grembleb Quit: I Leave
1372976254 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1372976258 M * Bertl back now ...