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1370505709 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1370505713 M * Bertl morning folks!
1370507974 M * Bertl off for now ... bbl
1370507986 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
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1370525918 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1370525921 M * Bertl back now ...
1370527028 J * Lenniey ~oftc-webi@145.253.93.93
1370527053 M * Lenniey hi there
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1370527631 M * Lenniey I wanted to ask something. I got a debian host system with three individual NICs for one vserver. The 1st NIC is for the host itself, 2nd and 3rd should be for two different networks (so three different networks, host, vs1, vs2). Problem is, the solution using iproute2 routing tables and rules to use routing tables and a different default gateway in the vserver doesn't seem to work. I tried everything I could think of. Did somebody here create a similar 
1370527645 M * Lenniey and wants to share his / her knowhow with me?
1370527760 M * Bertl works fine if done properly, what is your kernel/patch and routing setup?
1370527858 M * Lenniey Kernel: 2.6.32-5-vserver-686-bigmem
1370527863 M * Lenniey  util-vserver: 0.30.215; Jun 18 2010, 15:28:40
1370527886 M * Lenniey debian squeeze, apparently
1370527887 M * Bertl 0.30.215 is ancient, you definitely want to update to 0.30.216-preXX
1370527901 M * Lenniey oh ok
1370527903 M * Bertl 0.30.215 doesn't even work with a 2.6.32 kernel
1370527918 M * Lenniey well, the vservers itself are working fine
1370527932 M * Bertl then it's most likely not 0.30.215 :)
1370527944 M * Lenniey i can do anything i want, except the routing
1370527960 M * Bertl how does your routing setup look like?
1370527960 M * Lenniey i just copied it from vserver-info ;)
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1370527992 M * Bertl debian is known for messing with the version numbers and/or removing them (as in your kernel)
1370528009 M * Bertl so, basically nobody knows what version you are using
1370528065 M * Lenniey network A -> vs1 -> vs2 -> network B
1370528070 M * Lenniey erm OK, wait
1370528169 M * Lenniey Version: 0.30.216-pre2864-2+b1 is what apt gives me
1370528190 M * Bertl that looks a lot more reasonable, still old but usable
1370528197 M * Lenniey ok
1370528239 M * Bertl so, what rules and routes do you use?
1370528273 M * Lenniey i created 3 new tables in rt_tables
1370528294 M * Lenniey and use routes like this:
1370528329 M * Lenniey ip route add 192.168.0.0/24 dev eth0 src 192.168.0.1 table 100
1370528339 M * Lenniey for my host
1370528348 M * Lenniey and a rule, of course
1370528372 M * Lenniey ip rule add from 192.168.0.1/32 table 100
1370528385 M * Lenniey same setup for my vservers
1370528391 M * Lenniey in the 2 aother tables
1370528418 M * Lenniey well, with the subnets 192.168.1.0/24 and 192.168.2.0/24
1370528434 M * Bertl 1/32 so only one IP?
1370528441 M * Lenniey yeah
1370528452 M * Lenniey only the host itself
1370528454 M * Bertl okay, and what doesn't work?
1370528648 M * Lenniey when i ping from vs1 to the internet (via the default route table for vs1), i get connect: Network is unreachable
1370528680 M * Lenniey vs1 should be vs2's gateway to the internet
1370528707 M * Bertl you don't have a default route in those tables, so that's expected no?
1370528721 M * Lenniey using default routes
1370528723 M * Lenniey i forgot that
1370528732 M * Lenniey using the same tables as my other routes
1370528747 M * Bertl and you can't route through a 'guest' without network namespaces or ugly tricks
1370528761 M * Lenniey hmm...suspected that
1370528843 M * Lenniey so vs1 can never act as a gateway for vs2? even with different NICs?
1370528882 M * Lenniey let's say a "minimal" DMZ (of course no DMZ on vservers, only so you get what i'm trying to do)
1370529082 M * Bertl it is the same network stack
1370529102 M * Bertl (i.e. with IP isolation) so it can do everything a linux box can do
1370529126 M * Bertl you can redirect ports locally but you can't for example route through localhost
1370529164 M * Bertl (as routing involves a transition from one interface to the other)
1370529200 M * Bertl you can route from eth0 to eth1 but not from lo to lo (which vs1 to vs2 would be)
1370529211 M * Lenniey ok lets say if i connect vs1 to the internet, using my ISPs router as default gateway, i can't use ip_forwarding inside the guest vs1? thats what im basically trying to do
1370529219 M * Lenniey aha!
1370529220 M * Lenniey ok
1370529309 M * Lenniey so it's also not possible for the host system to use vs1 as a gateway to the internet, because it would be lo to lo, too, even with different NICs?
1370529374 M * Bertl correct
1370529385 M * Lenniey ah well...time to think of a new project
1370529394 M * Bertl you can do this kind of stuff with a recent kernel and network namespaces though
1370529406 M * Lenniey oh, nice to know
1370529449 M * Lenniey th sad thing is debian is so slow, but i like it for server purposes
1370529634 M * Lenniey ok, thank you for your help, i'm gonna have a look at xen for my project
1370529656 M * Lenniey despite xen being ugly (i think)
1370529785 M * Bertl you're welcome!
1370529793 M * Bertl kvm will also do what you want
1370529885 M * Lenniey kvm and xen are the "supported" virtualization solutions i think
1370529897 M * Lenniey i once tried kvm, and it was awful
1370529899 M * Lenniey or i was awful
1370530191 M * Bertl well, kvm is a lot less intrusive than xen
1370530207 M * Bertl but ultimately that's up to you ...
1370530786 M * Lenniey great, my old xeon cpu doesn't have virtualization flags
1370530793 J * wmp_ ~oftc-webi@213.146.39.216
1370530795 M * Lenniey i'm going to punch thw alls
1370530810 M * wmp_ hello, configure in util-vserver has bug
1370530895 M * Bertl okay?
1370531204 M * wmp_ Bertl: http://pastebin.com/wEkGdS4N - bug in util-vserver
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1370531332 M * Bertl wmp_: well, it looks like your toolchain cannot compile stuff
1370531350 M * Bertl gcc conftest.c   fails with:
1370531359 M * Bertl /usr/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory
1370531372 M * Bertl which looks somewhat broken to me
1370531476 M * wmp_ Bertl: comfigure first get version from gcc -v, and this work. Next try to get version from gcc -V, and this dont work. After them give errors
1370531517 M * Bertl that is just the normal testing, the problem is that gcc can't compile anything
1370531539 M * wmp_ hmmm
1370531543 M * Bertl try with a simple test program, ala int main(void) { return 0 }
1370531604 M * wmp_ Bertl: ok, my fail
1370531627 M * Bertl np
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1370540869 M * Bertl cd /
1370540881 M * Bertl hmm, wrong window :)
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1370550251 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1370550261 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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