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1364711357 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1364711361 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1364741614 J * Seattle ~chatzilla@c-24-34-74-228.hsd1.ma.comcast.net
1364741750 M * Seattle Hi All - for Bertl (or anyone else), have been wrestling with upgrading Debian Kernel, running into problems with guests and gnome etc.  Have upgraded to vanilla 3.2.42, machine boots, and have posted various output (e.g., pre and post lsmod) on http://paste.linux-vserver.org/23549.   Think I need to address changes in lsmods between pre and post upgrade in .config, but hoping for input.
1364741937 M * Seattle PS as suggested, this is all before doing any patching (vserver or otherwise)
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1364745133 J * michal ~michal@168.63.70.79
1364745407 M * Seattle Gotta run...will stay on, and check back in a bit...thx
1364749020 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1364749025 M * Bertl morning folks!
1364758707 J * arekm ~arekm@ixion.pld-linux.org
1364759357 M * Seattle Am back...
1364759533 M * Bertl wb
1364759547 M * Bertl regarding your 'server' that is a desktop machine, yes?
1364759686 M * Seattle Yes
1364759755 M * Bertl so, get a pci serial card, preferably one which has a 16650 serial chip
1364759763 M * Bertl and you have your serial console
1364759769 M * Seattle OK
1364759852 M * Seattle Should I try to address anything is gaps in original and upgraded lsmod?  Or possible errors in dmesg like "No ACPI video bus found", or get serial console working first?
1364759894 M * Bertl well, as long as everything you want to work actually works after you booted the new kernel, there is no need to mess with the configuration
1364759926 M * Bertl if something is failing, or some device/application doesn't work/start, you need to look for missing drivers
1364759987 M * Seattle OK, and wondering if it's something to do with video drivers, as everything seemed to go smoothly until I tried to install gnome-core, xorg, and gdm in the guests
1364760036 M * Bertl usually you don't want xorg inside the guests, because it requires low-level access to the hardware
1364760076 M * Seattle OK...will try without, but think things started to go south with gnome-core (not sure if I need xorg for x2go or not)
1364760108 M * Bertl there should be no problem with installing gnome inside a guest
1364760124 M * Seattle And that could be a missing driver then on the host?
1364760145 M * Bertl gnome doesn't interact with any drivers directly
1364760150 M * Bertl at least not during install
1364760153 M * Seattle Ah...
1364760178 M * Seattle OK...some more things to try (and a serial port to put in...)
1364760182 M * Bertl it might be, that the debian folks decide to check for something or create some devices, etc
1364760188 M * Bertl *decided
1364760219 M * Bertl but in this case, you can always install the package on a real system and then copy the files over to the guest
1364760254 M * Bertl (or work around the issues in various ways, like converting the .deb to a .tgz or with some dpkg options)
1364760304 M * Seattle Are there linux distributions that allow you do just to a "aptitude install linux-image-vserver-686 util-vserver ssh" (i.e., non debian)?
1364760379 M * Bertl probably any distro using apt and providing an aptitude package?
1364760482 M * Seattle Sorry, where you don't have to be compiling kernels (i.e., as we have been doing with Squeeze, but my understanding is not with Wheezy or later Debian dists).
1364760530 M * Bertl ah, well, the distro kernels are always behind the Linux-VServer development, so it is really suggested to build your own kernel/tools for production
1364760565 M * Seattle OK...so a good skill to have.  As said, have some more work to do...mean it sincerely, you're a prince!
1364760577 M * Seattle Bye for now...
1364760588 M * Bertl but various distros have packages for Linux-VServer kernels and util-vserver, but they are usually intended to 'easily check it out' not for production
1364760613 M * Seattle OK...so means to me is worth learning how to do this..
1364760623 M * Bertl definitely
1364760633 M * Seattle Thanks!
1364760637 M * Bertl you're welcome!
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