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1363158824 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1363158829 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1363177486 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1363177490 M * Bertl morning folks!
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1363177976 M * gremble hi Bertl 
1363178046 M * gremble There's been some concern about 3.2.* kernels, but my builds are so stable for me. Should I be concerned about long term stability do you think?
1363178249 M * lamvak morning
1363178393 M * Bertl gremble: I don't think that 3.2.x kernels are 'unstable' although I've heard of some problems myself, but I'm not using them either, so I just don't know ... I've also heard that they are rock solid, so no help there :)
1363178418 M * gremble well rock solid is my experience
1363178437 M * gremble sorry also, just realized I've changed my default nick
1363178445 A * gremble aka. BenG
1363178484 M * Bertl ah, then you know the person who said they are rock solid quite well :)
1363178500 M * gremble :)
1363178522 M * gremble I'm going to have to move my default nick back to avoid this sort of issue
1363178540 N * gremble BenG
1363178554 M * BenG okay, so, basically, there's not enough reports to tell
1363178572 M * Bertl no reports are usually good news
1363178590 M * BenG I'm going to diff the configs of the people who've reports problems with mine
1363178598 M * BenG should have done that in the first instance really
1363178612 M * Bertl as you know, at least one person is having troubles with 3.2 kernels, but it is hard to tell if it is a hardware issue or a software problem or maybe a configuration which triggers the crashes
1363178692 M * BenG absolutely, the one useful feature I have used in the blockio fairness cgroups thing
1363178716 M * BenG I'll give that a go in a sandbox soon and see how 3.2 fairs with it
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1363179619 M * arekm that 3.7.x (10) is really nasty ;( http://pastebin.com/3XtkMbR5
1363179942 M * BenG the only differences between the -beng kernels and the -glow kernels are the options:
1363179945 M * BenG CONFIG_VSERVER_WARN_DEVPTS
1363179952 M * BenG CONFIG_USB_UAS
1363179960 M * BenG are both enabled in -glow
1363180401 J * thierryp ~thierry@eduroam-222a.sophia.inria.fr
1363180440 M * Bertl well, WARN_DEVPTS should not cause any issue, AFAICT, but that should be simple to test for you, no?
1363180464 M * Bertl i.e. those config changes will not affect a host much
1363180898 A * arekm just did periodical Experimental directory check ;/
1363181233 J * ircuser-1 ~ircuser-1@35.222-62-69.ftth.swbr.surewest.net
1363181834 M * BenG CONFIG_USB_UAS could be an issue. But I've no personal need to test that. There have been many downloads from the repository, and not many error reports, so as you say, no reports is goods may well be good news
1363181880 M * BenG well the reason for me to test it would be to exlude from any issues, but I'm not having any issues myself anyway
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1363187976 M * Bertl off for now ... translocating ... bbl
1363187981 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1363188332 M * lamvak arekm but that's just exim failing, not a kernel panic, right?
1363188375 M * lamvak i've just (succesfully) updated my vserver host
1363188382 M * lamvak Linux gallifrey 3.7.10-gentoo-vs2.3.5.6 #2 SMP Tue Mar 12 16:54:14 CET 2013 x86_64 Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D425 @ 1.80GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
1363188415 M * lamvak i've got the gentoo kernel and patched it manually
1363188453 M * lamvak and i have an exim working pretty well
1363188465 M * lamvak 4.80.1
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1363189449 M * arekm lamvak: wrong
1363189499 M * arekm lamvak: it's kernel hitting WARN_ON()
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1363199653 M * lamvak oic
1363201386 M * Bertl_oO off for a nap ... bbl
1363201404 N * Bertl_oO Bertl_zZ
1363202393 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net
1363202642 M * arekm heh, every kernel now will have root hole? ;(
1363202709 M * arekm  http://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2013/03/13/10
1363203309 M * ard at least it doesn't work on vserver ...
1363203332 M * ard [-] clone: Operation not permitted
1363203362 M * ard which is probably as expected...
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1363203957 M * ard Hmmm, it also doesn't work in a host...
1363204284 M * arekm here it didn't work on 3.8.2 host
1363204297 M * arekm but people on lkml seem to agree that this is real hole
1363204309 M * ard I am also wondering about the fs.protected_symlinks=1
1363204315 M * ard because I can't seem to find it :-)
1363204360 M * ard (just a very old patch)
1363204379 M * arekm you need to have YAMA enabled for protection of sym/hard-links
1363204381 M * ard But I am just running 3.7
1363204384 M * ard ah
1363204864 M * ard But I don't get it... it seems that: CLONE_NEWUSER|CLONE_FS is a forbidden combination in clone...
1363204899 M * arekm in 3.8?
1363204908 M * ard no, 3.7 :-)
1363205079 M * ard the clone syscall just says EPERM, so it doesn't work
1363205232 M * arekm here [pid 16178] clone(child_stack=0x6c1f10, flags=CLONE_FS|CLONE_NEWUSER|SIGCHLD) = -1 EINVAL (Invalid argument)
1363205247 M * ard [pid  4808] clone(child_stack=0x7019f0, flags=CLONE_FS|0x10000000|SIGCHLD) = -1 EPERM (Operation not permitted)
1363205252 M * ard your strace is newer :-)
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