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1354849310 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1354849387 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1354871559 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net
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1354871832 J * Romster ~romster@202.168.100.149.dynamic.rev.eftel.com
1354871945 J * BenG_ ~bengreen@cpc29-aztw23-2-0-cust144.18-1.cable.virginmedia.com
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1354876064 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1354876069 M * Bertl morning folks!
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1354878052 M * BlackPanx _nono_ you just need to keep cgconfig off from startup and everything is fine.
1354878063 J * fisted ~fisted@xdsl-87-78-185-129.netcologne.de
1354878214 M * BlackPanx darn what a nickname...
1354878219 M * BlackPanx lol
1354878245 M * BlackPanx and a german... that's disturbing :)
1354879987 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru
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1354890905 M * Bertl off for a nap ... bbl
1354891018 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1354895485 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54ADEEC7.dip.t-dialin.net
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1354896447 J * fisted ~fisted@xdsl-84-44-236-2.netcologne.de
1354898182 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1354898185 M * Bertl back now ...
1354902524 J * clopez ~clopez@242.17.60.213.dynamic.mundo-r.com
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1354906484 J * hijacker_ ~hijacker@cable-84-43-134-121.mnet.bg
1354906851 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net
1354907325 J * imachine ~imachine@ip-178-216-200-202.e24cloud.com
1354907329 M * imachine hello!
1354907344 M * imachine would running a vserver inside of qemu be causing an issue?
1354907382 M * imachine I have my cloud machine set up as qemu. I can install a custom kernel which I did (the -beng version mentioned on linux-vserver.org)
1354907399 M * imachine however, creating a vserver seems to cause issues.
1354907410 M * Bertl no, Linux-VServer work fine inside a kvm/qemu guest
1354907423 M * imachine I use the newvserver command from debian but it seems it doesn't fully bootstrap it
1354907435 Q * thierryp Remote host closed the connection
1354907441 M * Bertl you shouldn't use that
1354907448 M * imachine what should I use then ?
1354907449 M * Bertl it is outdated, broken, deprecated ...
1354907460 M * Bertl i.e. it is expected to fail
1354907464 M * imachine or where would I go to read about it :)
1354907476 M * Bertl you should install recent util-vserver
1354907483 M * imachine done that
1354907488 M * Bertl you can build guests with 'vserver <name> build ...'
1354907501 M * Bertl see wiki for examples for various guest distros
1354907507 M * imachine 0.30.216-pre3038 is the one I have.
1354907517 M * imachine ok cheers.
1354907527 M * Bertl yep, that's fine
1354907556 M * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/Building_Guest_Systems
1354907640 M * imachine if I have some vservers running on another machine, can I just migrate those?
1354907662 M * Bertl yes, given that the config is recent enough
1354907674 M * Bertl otherwise you might have to adjust the guest config manually
1354907685 M * imachine like, copy the files directly and that's it? plus eventual config adjustments?
1354907706 M * Bertl yes, just make sure that you do not mess up ownership, permissions, etc
1354907722 M * Bertl i.e. a plain cp won't do
1354907731 M * imachine cp -a is ok ? :)
1354907732 M * Bertl you can also use the rsync build method
1354907766 M * Bertl vserver - build --help
1354907839 M * imachine oh that looks nice
1354907882 M * imachine I thought I'd just install three vservers with same names and ips I had and then just purge the files from vdirbase/ and cp -a the old files into vdirbase/
1354907912 M * imachine I'll most likely just have a .tbz of the old server root
1354907931 M * Bertl you can do that, but use something better than cp -a, for example rsync -axHPSD --numeric-ids
1354907943 M * imachine cool :)
1354907970 M * Bertl for tar, also make sure to use the proper options to preserve uid/gid and permissions
1354908480 M * imachine ok, I built a vserver using this command: vserver myhost build -m debootstrap --context 42 --hostname myhost.mydomain --interface eth0:199.99.99.99/21 -- -d squeeze -m http://ftp.pl.debian.org/debian
1354908496 M * imachine when I try to start it, it says vshelper.init: can not determine xid of vserver 'ns1'; returned value was ''
1354908516 M * Bertl how do you try to start it?
1354908527 M * imachine vserver myhost start
1354908538 M * Bertl why does it say 'ns1' then?
1354908546 M * imachine eh yea
1354908550 M * imachine cuz myhost=ns1 ;)
1354908562 M * Bertl also, make sure that you use a separate context number for each guest
1354908569 M * Bertl s/separate/different/
1354908581 M * imachine yes, I stated 42 with the command, first time so
1354908588 M * Bertl i.e. --context <xid> is a _unique_ identifier
1354908621 M * Bertl I presume the debootstrap finished without errors?
1354908627 M * imachine yea
1354908653 M * imachine should I have the ip configured for the vserver ?
1354908660 M * Bertl then please run the vserver ns1 start with --debug (i.e. vserver --debug ns1 start) and upload the output somewhere
1354908665 M * imachine wok
1354908669 M * Bertl you did with the --interface option
1354908676 M * Bertl (i.e. configure the IP)
1354908867 M * imachine http://goo.gl/LpL7a
1354908942 M * imachine this is just the last few lines before the error
1354908948 M * imachine I can paste more if required
1354908965 M * Bertl yes, please, but first upload 'vserver-info - SYSINFO'
1354909035 M * imachine http://goo.gl/pKclg
1354909299 M * Bertl looks fine so far, just make sure that you do not have any leftovers from the debian packages, especially the one containing newvserver
1354909336 M * Bertl i.e. if you are unsure, remove all the tools, then remove /etc/vservers and reinstall the util-vserver package(s)
1354909364 M * imachine ok
1354909734 M * imachine same story
1354909748 M * Bertl okay, then please upload the full --debug run
1354909752 M * imachine removed all of /etc/vservers like you wrote, install the latest stuff.
1354909775 M * imachine http://pastebin.ca/2290376 this is as far as my terminal backlog goes :)
1354909784 M * imachine will this be enough ?
1354909815 M * imachine maybe I can get it higher..
1354909851 M * Bertl redirect it to a file with >/tmp/some_file 2>&1
1354909912 M * imachine http://pastebin.ca/2290377
1354909919 M * imachine that's the full thing
1354909935 M * imachine can I be back in about 20 minutes?
1354909956 M * imachine I'm hungry but I can stick it out because I really appreciate your help
1354909970 M * Bertl no problem, get something to eat
1354910030 M * imachine cheers I'll be back - my old server has experienced a hardware failure and I decided to move the data to a virtual cloud instead. it's been 2 days my clients are stuck without email etc ;|
1354910040 M * imachine it's been hectic
1354910041 M * imachine :-)
1354910054 M * Bertl backups are for woozies :)
1354912491 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:288a:ade0:bc70:831c
1354914847 M * imachine oof
1354914851 M * imachine sorry it took so long
1354914860 M * imachine Bertl, are you still about?
1354914867 M * Bertl yup
1354914869 M * imachine cool :)
1354914880 M * imachine I had a backup just from a while ago
1354914881 M * imachine anywho
1354914887 M * Bertl what does '/usr/sbin/vserver-info /etc/vservers/ns1 CONTEXT false' give?
1354915016 M * imachine nothing
1354915023 M * Bertl there is your problem
1354915049 M * Bertl so, what does 'ls -la /etc/vservers/ns1/' return?
1354915054 M * Bertl (use pastebin)
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1354915116 M * imachine http://pastebin.ca/2290395
1354915222 M * Bertl okay, let's run 'strace -fF /usr/sbin/vserver-info /etc/vservers/ns1 CONTEXT false'
1354915233 M * Bertl (and upload the output)
1354915270 M * imachine http://pastebin.ca/2290396
1354915283 M * imachine (wow, you could do _that_?)
1354915292 M * imachine (like, strace, cool ;))
1354915483 M * Bertl looks like your guest doesn't keep running for whatever reason
1354915485 M * imachine I think I remember looking at or using strace in the past, but it's always a nice refreshment to know it's at hand with debugging things.
1354915504 M * imachine Bertl: what reason might that be ?
1354915505 M * Bertl (well, most likely no service is enabled, but that should be done by the post install scripts)
1354915537 M * Bertl I just tried your install command here with the same util-vserver version and it works just fine
1354915548 M * Bertl i.e. gives a fully functional guest
1354915567 M * Bertl so, please try again with the following build command and upload the output:
1354915586 M * imachine maybe I can build with --debug ?
1354915597 M * Bertl vserver ns1 build -m debootstrap --context 442 --hostname myhost.mydomain --interface eth0:199.99.99.99/21 -- -d squeeze -m http://ftp.pl.debian.org/debian
1354915612 M * Bertl remove your ns1 guest, but keep the IP/context for the test
1354915635 M * Bertl i.e. run it exactly as I pasted it after deleting your ns1
1354915657 M * Bertl (vserver ns1 delete)
1354915671 M * imachine err, should I use the same ip and context you posted here? the 199.99.99.99/21 ?
1354915676 M * Bertl yep
1354915678 M * imachine ok
1354915969 M * imachine maybe the bottom of this is that I'm using a kernel for debian squeeze on a ubuntu 12.04 machine?
1354915984 M * imachine maybe I should rebuild from ubuntu sources + vserver patches
1354915998 M * imachine it boots fine though and seems to work ok
1354916021 M * Bertl well, putting aside the fact that you should build your own kernel from vanilla sources + patch, this should not affect the userspace tools
1354916185 M * imachine (I'm trying this same command on another box with ubuntu + -beng kernel)
1354916205 M * imachine (running exactly as you wrote it and starting it brings us back to square one)
1354916223 M * Bertl that's good, please upload the log
1354916603 M * imachine http://pastebin.ca/2290401
1354916612 M * imachine here's the log with your command
1354916676 M * Bertl hmm, no, I want the log from the guest install
1354916688 M * imachine oh
1354916708 M * imachine where would that reside
1354916744 M * imachine where does vserver command keep its logs?
1354916751 M * imachine it's not in /var/log/vserver* ;)
1354916764 M * Bertl the output from the vserver ns1 build ...
1354916775 M * Bertl just copy/paste or redirect it
1354916790 M * imachine it's prety standard..
1354916795 M * imachine but I'll do it again
1354917055 M * imachine http://pastebin.ca/2290404
1354917065 M * imachine --verbose doesn't seem to do much
1354917088 M * imachine I fail to see a difference in output with the above commands
1354917091 M * Bertl didn't say anything about --verbose, did I?
1354917094 M * imachine with --verbose and without it.
1354917105 M * imachine yeah, I tried to give more info.
1354917112 M * Bertl that's all from the install?
1354917113 M * imachine but it's the same without --verbose :)
1354917116 M * imachine yea
1354917120 M * Bertl i.e. nothing cut off at the end?
1354917130 M * imachine hence my thinking about --verbose ;)
1354917138 M * Bertl I'd say your debootstrap is unsuitable
1354917154 M * Bertl i.e. it cannot debootstrap this guest
1354917185 M * imachine oh
1354917189 M * Bertl normally util-vserver downloads the proper version (on non debian systems) but in your case, it uses the installed one
1354917206 M * Bertl (which screws up :)
1354917208 M * imachine lemme purge debootstrap from my system
1354917287 M * imachine well this is weird
1354917295 M * imachine Could not find local version of 'debootstrap'; downloading it from
1354917295 M * imachine http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/debootstrap/debootstrap_1.0.39_all.deb...
1354917301 M * imachine it can't find it
1354917311 M * Bertl yeah, that's fine, debian changes the name on a regular basis
1354917318 M * imachine and the version I had installed was 1.0.39
1354917330 M * Bertl check on the debian site
1354917331 M * imachine but it was an ubuntu version so maybe they modified it.
1354917339 M * Bertl (what the latest version is)
1354917349 M * Bertl and add that to the /etc config as advised
1354917389 M * Bertl 1.0.44 in this case
1354917410 M * Bertl or the squeeze one if you just want to build squeeze guests
1354917420 M * Bertl (but the other one should be fine for all)
1354917478 M * imachine just as well I could install ubuntu clients
1354917488 M * imachine then it should work with that deboostrap I have on my system
1354917491 M * imachine but nvm ;)
1354917499 M * Bertl yeah, probably
1354917506 M * Bertl you did pick squeeze :)
1354917521 M * imachine I just figured it could be the issue of qemu
1354917529 M * imachine that was my first bet
1354917532 M * Bertl nah, qemu/kvm is fine
1354917540 M * imachine because I had some issues with vps before
1354917543 Q * Romster Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1354917564 M * imachine hmm
1354917571 M * imachine so far the build output is the same
1354917572 M * imachine :>
1354917578 M * imachine (using .44)
1354917588 M * imachine yea
1354917592 M * imachine vshelper.init: can not determine xid of vserver 'ns1'; returned value was ''
1354917615 M * imachine I purged deboostrap and put the one from the debian package
1354917656 M * imachine still same error. would you like the debug?
1354917673 M * Bertl nah, debootstrap has to continue
1354917683 M * imachine it didn't
1354917691 M * imachine it just update-rc.d: using dependency based boot sequencing
1354917697 M * imachine and that's the last of its work
1354917751 M * Bertl http://pastebin.ca/2290406
1354917765 M * Bertl this is how it looks like after the point where your debootstrap stops
1354917834 M * Bertl note that till the line stating:
1354917840 M * Bertl I: Base system installed successfully.
1354917855 M * Bertl it is debootstrap and only debootstrap running
1354917867 M * Bertl i.e. you can test this part without util-vserver
1354917892 M * imachine what command does vserver run exactly?
1354917903 M * imachine I could replicate that same command for debootstrap
1354917903 M * Bertl (that you can see in the --debug run)
1354917921 M * Bertl but note: you can do without a distro if you plan to fill in the guest data anyway
1354917933 M * imachine I still want to try to set it up
1354917937 M * imachine to see if it works
1354917943 M * imachine before I put actual data in there :)
1354917961 M * imachine so far I haven't made past debootstrap for some reason
1354917981 M * Bertl for some bootstrap related reason :)
1354918013 M * Bertl (read: can't help you much with that)
1354918042 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: ping?
1354918169 M * Bertl imachine: this is the command it runs here:
1354918172 M * Bertl /usr/sbin/vspace --mount --fs --new -- /tmp/debootstrap.J6cdyR/usr/sbin/debootstrap squeeze /etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase/ns1 http://ftp.pl.debian.org/debian ''
1354918187 M * Bertl you can drop everything up to the debootstrap
1354918210 M * imachine oh, could it be possible debootstrap tries to set up devices?
1354918211 M * Bertl and probably change the dir as well, so something like:
1354918214 M * imachine like, mknod ?
1354918227 M * imachine maybe it fails then.
1354918233 M * Bertl debootstrap squeeze /path/to/temp/space/ http://ftp.pl.debian.org/debian ''
1354918239 M * Bertl should do for a test
1354918266 M * Bertl I have no idea what debootstrap does
1354918448 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: I think I found and fixed the CoW issues, please take a look at the vs2.3.4.3.4-donotuse.diff and let me know what you think (lot of debug stuff there you can ignore)
1354918470 M * imachine I: Base system installed successfully.
1354918476 M * imachine kerplonk
1354918479 M * imachine it worked!
1354918482 M * imachine manually that is
1354918486 M * imachine so, what gives ? :)
1354918503 M * Bertl well, that's good
1354918518 M * Bertl remove the guest again, run the build with --debug
1354918541 M * imachine /var/tmp/debootstrap.8lH0au/usr/sbin/debootstrap: 931: /var/tmp/debootstrap.8lH0au/usr/sbin/debootstrap: cannot create /etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase/ns1//etc/resolv.conf: Directory nonexistent
1354918542 M * Bertl check the debootstrap line it issues right before I: Retrieving Release
1354918545 M * imachine yeah alright :)
1354918555 M * imachine I think we might have our culprit here
1354918562 M * imachine /vservers/ns1/debootstrap/debootstrap.log)
1354918597 M * Bertl okay, please check
1354918601 M * imachine I don't get it
1354918605 M * Bertl /etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase/ns1/
1354918611 M * Bertl does that exist?
1354918623 M * imachine inside /etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase/ns1/etc/ resolv.conf is a symlink
1354918626 M * Bertl if not, check /etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase
1354918628 M * imachine ls -al /etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase/ns1/etc/resolv.conf
1354918628 M * imachine lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 Nov  7 11:21 /etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase/ns1/etc/resolv.conf -> ../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf
1354918630 M * daniel_hozac ensure that /etc/vservers/.defaults/files/resolv.conf exists
1354918633 M * daniel_hozac and is a file
1354918638 M * daniel_hozac and contains your nameservers
1354918650 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: i'll take a look.
1354918650 M * Bertl ah, yeah, we had that a few times
1354918660 M * imachine daniel_hozac: bingo
1354918686 M * Bertl have to make a note of this recent oddity
1354918713 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: I presume, you plan on fixing this in an upcoming util-vserver release?
1354918727 M * Bertl (probably by copying the content instead of the entry)
1354918754 J * Romster ~romster@202.168.100.149.dynamic.rev.eftel.com
1354918844 M * Bertl okay, I guess, problem solved, everybody happy ... (see http://linux-vserver.org/Donations if you are really happy :)
1354918857 M * Bertl I'm off for now, but I'll be back in an hour or so
1354918862 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1354918889 M * imachine alrigh!
1354918893 M * imachine thank you all :)
1354918898 M * imachine it works now :)
1354918906 M * imachine daniel_hozac, it was missing that file ;)
1354919010 Q * imachine Quit: leaving
1354919090 J * imachine ~imachine@ip-178-216-200-202.e24cloud.com
1354919101 M * imachine imma hang out :)
1354919130 M * imachine gotta work with the vservers now ;) ttyl
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1354921201 Q * fisted Remote host closed the connection
1354921261 J * fisted ~fisted@xdsl-81-173-187-161.netcologne.de
1354921501 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1354921501 Q * Ghislain Quit: Leaving.
1354921513 M * Bertl imachine: feel free to hang around as long as you like
1354921895 Q * Romster Ping timeout: 480 seconds
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1354923518 J * Romster ~romster@202.168.100.149.dynamic.rev.eftel.com