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1346463863 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1346463867 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1346486845 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1346486848 M * Bertl morning folks!
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1346499574 M * Bertl off for a nap ... bbl
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1346509153 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1346509157 M * Bertl back now ...
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1346518834 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@adsl2.aqueos.com
1346519007 M * ser how people are using ubuntu 12.04 in guests? no service is starting apart of sshd :(
1346519027 M * ser and plain method is not better, as nothing starts
1346519060 M * Bertl probably you need to add services?
1346519164 M * ser no, they are just being ignored with upstart-job
1346519196 M * ser it seems it is trying to control them using some handle, which is not available with vserver 
1346519354 M * Bertl what do you mean by 'handle' and why would sshd work?
1346519462 M * ser probably that: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/482292
1346519496 M * ser or not
1346519540 M * ser 'start cron' in the guest definitely does not work
1346519731 M * ser i see, ssh does not use upstart-job
1346519739 M * ser this is why it starts
1346519927 M * Bertl no idea what upstart-job is/does, but it should work fine inside a guest, if not, please figure out why it fails
1346519980 M * ser i think will convince my friend to stick with debian and forget about ubuntu - if you do not use it, it is not safe to use it :)
1346520012 M * Bertl I do not use debian either ... 
1346520050 M * ser but it works :)
1346520051 M * Bertl but I'm pretty sure ubuntu should work in 'plain' mode with upstart
1346520061 M * ser but it does not
1346520068 M * ser it does not start any service
1346520107 M * Bertl check the logs, try to start a service after ssh-ing into the guest
1346520120 M * Bertl see what upstart* complains about
1346520357 M * Chlorek I had the same problem
1346520370 M * Chlorek finally I installed debian ;)
1346520407 M * ser it is not easy, as start is not a script, but a binary
1346520433 M * Bertl so?
1346520493 M * ser so set -x does not work :D
1346520500 M * Chlorek use strace
1346520528 M * fback you probably can switch to sysv-rc to start your scripts
1346520579 M * Bertl I'm pretty sure upstart has some logging mechanisms
1346520599 M * ser fback: how?
1346520614 M * Bertl and trying to start a service (from sshd) when the guest is already running should shed some light on the issue as well
1346520623 M * ser Chlorek: why have not used it, mate, if you can interpret it? :-D
1346520685 M * ser no idea, http://www.pastebay.net/1072890
1346520686 M * fback just install the package (and probably remove conflicting ones)
1346520707 M * fback never tried it tho :)
1346520743 M * Chlorek ser: time is money and I don't have it to much if I want money ;)
1346520760 M * ser f.. capitalists! :-P
1346520773 M * Chlorek ;D
1346520795 M * Bertl ser: the start command works fine
1346520818 M * ser with a small detail it does not start the cron
1346520835 M * Bertl maybe it has a verbose/debug switch?
1346520864 M * ser       --help     display this help and exit
1346520864 M * ser       --version  output version information and exit
1346520867 M * ser taht;s it
1346520887 M * Bertl http://upstart.ubuntu.com/wiki/Debugging
1346520911 M * Chlorek upstart just simply doesn't work in vserver
1346520924 M * Chlorek it's some issue with upstart bridge communication with init process
1346520933 M * Chlorek and it's upstart problem
1346520948 M * Bertl if it works on a real machine, it should work in a guest as well
1346520976 M * Chlorek I also thought so
1346520981 M * ser Add a "--verbose" command line to the kernel options. You can do this easily if you are using grub.
1346520987 M * ser where in vserver i can do that?
1346521011 M * ser ok i see
1346521019 M * ser checking....
1346521076 M * Bertl the command line is queried via /proc
1346521092 M * Bertl so you can add a bind mount to override the proc entry
1346521105 M * Bertl but the persistant log in /tmp is probably a better way
1346521304 M * Chlorek anyway, ser, share the solution if you will find out how to fix it ;)
1346521310 M * Chlorek it's interesting question
1346521517 M * ser nope, --verbose is not interpreted properly
1346521519 M * ser http://www.pastebay.net/1072892
1346521576 M * ser ok, lets back to debian :-) 
1346521581 M * ser capitalism
1346521613 M * Bertl as I said, the verbose option needs to be passed via the kernel command line
1346521625 M * Chlorek you can debug init outside of the guest
1346521628 M * Bertl (not as argument to init, although that would simplify things)
1346521642 M * Bertl Chlorek: yes, but then the pid will be wrong
1346521658 M * Chlorek isn't it the same? 1?
1346521672 M * Bertl only if you run it as host init :)
1346521706 M * Chlorek so how does work init in vserver?
1346521713 M * Chlorek isn't it the same?
1346521754 M * Bertl ser: but I'm fine when you choose to go with debian, just don't claim ubuntu doesn't work in a guest, as IMHO that is wrong ... (it might be a bitch to get it working, but I see no reason why it shouldn't work)
1346521765 M * ser btw, where should i put VSERVER_EXTRA_CMDS to have them interpreted during the startup? if in scripts/ dir, in which file?
1346521796 M * Bertl what is VSERVER_EXTRA_CMDS?
1346521852 M * ser i've heard about it before, i want to chrt the whole guest
1346521885 M * ser i was thinking about VSERVER_EXTRA_CMDS=( /usr/sbin/chrt --idle 0 )
1346521906 Q * macmaN Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1346521974 M * Bertl check with daniel_hozac or the util-vserver scripts
1346522306 M * ser ok, cheers
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