1342138273 M * marl_scot Bertl, do you know if vserver will run ok, under vmware ESXi4 ?
1342138299 M * Bertl it should run anywhere where you can run a Linux kernel
1342138330 M * Bertl (including your smart phone :)
1342138351 M * marl_scot lol, now that i would love to try :)
1342140276 J * nlm ~nlm@host25.190-231-234.telecom.net.ar
1342141925 J * senrabet 18224ae4@ircip4.mibbit.com
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1342153643 J * _br_ ~bjoern@first.cvl.iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp
1342153677 M * _br_ Does anyone have an idea how to make rsync copy special files? (/dev/..) ? At the moment I'm using rsync -avpPr -D --devices --specials  but that doesn't do for vserver backup
1342154066 M * Chlorek -avz?
1342154068 M * Chlorek rtfm
1342154123 M * Chlorek --devices
1342154185 M * _br_ nope doesn't do, I already did rtfm extensively. Anyway never mind, I think it should be ok. Thanks anyway :)
1342154206 M * Chlorek try -D
1342154233 M * Chlorek hm
1342154236 M * Chlorek you did
1342154245 M * Chlorek ok then, no idea
1342154514 M * _br_ thanks :)
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1342158900 J * ncopa ~ncopa@3.203.202.84.customer.cdi.no
1342159035 M * Bertl _br_: I usually use rsync -axXHPSD --numeric-ids
1342159062 M * Bertl given that you are allowed to create devices and special files on the destination that should do the trick
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1342176473 M * _br_ Bertl: nice, thank you for that tip ! :)
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1342176615 M * Bertl you're welcome!
1342176627 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1342176631 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1342176738 M * _br_ Wish you a good night
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1342185421 M * marl_scot is there a way to turn off networking for any vservers without stopping the host form accessing the network? I am just restoring a 2.0 guest onto a new vs, and i dont want it to start downloading stuff from the net untill im sure its ok, but i dont want to risk having a netwrok problem and not seeing it i i just remove interfaces from /etc/vservers/guest
1342185433 M * marl_scot or am i just being paranoid?
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1342190175 J * senrabdet 18224ae4@ircip1.mibbit.com
1342190225 M * senrabdet Am starting to experiment with vserver (ubuntu 10.4) and can't get GUI to start in guest.  Am looking for some help
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1342197002 J * ryker ~Adium@c-67-176-243-86.hsd1.in.comcast.net
1342197175 M * ryker hi Bertl_zZ or anyone else that can help. :)  What's the best way to troubleshoot disk IO problems on a vserver guest?
1342197193 M * ryker i'm on 2.6.38 kernel using cgroups for resource limiting
1342197198 M * ryker no disk limiting though
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1342198817 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@adsl1.aqueos.com
1342199928 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1342199935 M * Bertl morning folks!
1342199964 M * Bertl ryker: vmstat, iostat, iotop
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1342202954 M * ryker hi Bertl.  those won't show me which process in a guest is causing the IO and how much IO it's using because it can't see the guest processes.  and I can't run those commands in a guest.
1342203022 M * Bertl the guest context or the spectator context should suffice
1342203245 M * ryker Bertl: how do i do that again for the spectator context?  i dont' see it in the wiki
1342203261 M * Bertl xid/nid = 1 
1342203314 M * ryker chcontext —ctx 1 <command>, right?
1342203325 M * ryker that's supposed to be 2 dashes. - -
1342203355 M * Bertl chcontext --xid 1 -- ...
1342203367 M * Bertl that will get you in the process spectator context
1342203401 M * Bertl depending on the setup (i.e. io cgroup etc) you need to enter the specific groups/namespaces of the guest as well
1342203466 M * Bertl usually it's simpler to enter the guest namespaces completely
1342203544 M * ryker i'm trying to write some general instructions for troubleshooting IO issues on vservers guests.  at first, you probably don't know which guest might be causing the issue, so spectator would be necessary to see all guests processes, right?
1342203648 M * ryker atop won't work with the guest context, but it does work with the spectator context.
1342203662 M * ryker it doesn't show me disk info though. :(
1342203697 M * Bertl you might be missing proc entries ... check where it looks
1342203757 M * ryker vmstat doesn't work with either context.  yes, vmstat is complaining about missing proc entries.
1342203789 M * ryker using strace?
1342203792 M * Bertl you might need to unhide them in the spectator context
1342203808 M * Bertl yes, strace is usually a good choice
1342203865 M * ryker looks like /proc/meminfo is what it's trying to look at
1342203979 M * ryker Bertl: can i do that without restarting the guest?  i see something in the wiki about unhiding /proc/bus/usb, but that's a bit different, right?
1342204012 M * ryker it starts with umount /proc/bus/usb.  i don't want to do that for /proc/meminfo, right?
1342204024 M * ryker sry, this is lower level stuff than I normally deal wtih
1342204087 M * Bertl setattr --help
1342204130 M * Bertl the admin/watch/hide attributes apply to /proc
1342204432 M * ryker Bertl: how do I see what the current attributes are for /proc/meminfo before I change it, so I can set it back how it was after I'm done?
1342204445 M * ryker I assumed it was attr, but attr —help isn't much help to me
1342204462 M * ryker is it attr -l /proc/meminfo ?
1342204489 M * ryker I tried that and it shows nothing.
1342204517 M * Bertl showattr /proc/meminfo
1342204912 M * ryker so, i ran setattr —watch /proc/meminfo, but that didn't help.  same complaint about /proc/meminfo
1342204917 M * ryker [root@dc02vh0058na ~]# strace chcontext --ctx 1 vmstat 2>&1 | grep /proc
1342204917 M * ryker open("/proc/meminfo", O_RDONLY)         = 3
1342204917 M * ryker Error: /proc must be mounted
1342204938 M * ryker sry, brb
1342204963 M * Bertl so obviously that open went just fine, i.e. the problem must be elsewhere
1342205551 M * ryker back
1342205560 M * ryker ah, does = 3, mean it opened fine?
1342205569 M * ryker i assumed a non-zero number was bad
1342205600 M * Bertl it returns a file handle (int between 0 and max fd)
1342205610 M * Bertl (see man 2 open)
1342205635 M * Bertl usually negative numbers are bad (usually commented with error codes :)
1342205721 M * ryker ah, i think I see a bad line
1342205722 M * ryker vserver(0xb010001, 0x1, 0x7fffeeefff40, 0x8, 0upeek: ptrace(PTRACE_PEEKUSER,30134,120,0): Operation not permitted
1342205736 M * ryker no clue what that means
1342205981 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@adsl1.aqueos.com
1342206846 J * evol262 ~root@69-16-131-243.ph.highwinds.com
1342206976 M * evol262 Has anyone gotten RabbitMQ/Chef working in a vServer?
1342207001 M * evol262 rabbitmq immediately dies with econnrefused (presumably because epmd doesn't listen on localhost in a vserver)
1342207566 M * ryker evol262: yes.  I had no issues at all.
1342207579 M * ryker are you using a really old vserver version?
1342207709 M * evol262 2.3.0.36.32, which doesn't mean much to me in any case -- new job, no prior experience with vserver in a particular.
1342207769 M * ryker you're using a newer version than I am
1342207783 M * ryker are you sure epmd isn't already running and hanging in the background?
1342207835 M * ryker mine is listening on 0.0.0.0
1342207842 M * evol262 Dead certain.  Even if I run epmd in the foreground, it doesn't listen on localhost unless I explicitly start it with "-address 127.0.0.1", blah blah
1342207875 M * evol262 And if I do, rabbitmq-server fails, with epmd spitting out ALIVE2_REQ from non local address
1342207890 M * ryker there's a vserver config option that forces a guest's processes to bind to the network IP which I found problematic.  maybe that's the cause
1342207908 M * ryker does netstat -tlpn show most things listening on the primary IP of your guest?
1342207941 M * evol262 Yes -- which is why I started epmd with -address by default.
1342207952 M * evol262 I wasn't aware it'd force outgoing connections through the primary IP also.
1342207958 M * evol262 Do you recall what the option was?
1342208069 M * ryker it's a kernel config option, so you will have to recompile your kernel.  not sure what it is off hand.  let me check
1342208213 M * ryker evol262: I think the option is CONFIG_VSERVER_AUTO_SINGLE, that should not be set.
1342208234 M * ryker also, CONFIG_VSERVER_AUTO_LBACK=y should be set so you don't have loopback problems
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1342208293 M * evol262 Thanks!  
1342208378 M * evol262 Actually, that's perfect.  As it turns out, it can be disabled on a per-vserver basis through nflags anyway.  Much appreciated!
1342208396 M * ryker ah, i didn't know that. thx :)
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