1341792901 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1341801431 Q * fisted Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1341801443 J * fisted ~fisted@xdsl-87-78-183-158.netcologne.de 1341801685 Q * MooingLemur Quit: leaving 1341801706 J * MooingLemur ~troy@69.160.35.112 1341804879 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@80.187.201.110 1341806647 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1341807824 Q * clopez Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1341808525 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@80.187.201.110 1341818025 J * vspas ~vspas@87.213.36.165 1341819861 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1341820820 J * renihs ~arf@83-65-34-34.arsenal.xdsl-line.inode.at 1341820958 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:793f:e253:229:d789 1341822352 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! 1341822357 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1341822865 Q * vspas Read error: Connection reset by peer 1341823036 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1341823126 P * kir 1341823851 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1341825042 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@87.253.171.203 1341826294 J * clopez ~clopez@fanzine.igalia.com 1341831595 M * yang this Bertl bed time is interesting :) 1341832844 M * WMP yang: yes ;) You are from europe? 1341832856 M * WMP Are you from*... 1341832888 M * renihs Bertl_zZ, is the only person i know with sane sleep timings (e.g when the need or feel for it requires it seems) :p 1341832898 M * renihs i wish i could the same 1341832903 M * renihs a nap would be great now 1341832906 M * WMP interesting 1341832934 Q * clopez Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1341832956 M * WMP I must begining use lxc, becouse is problem with ubuntu 12.04 on vserwer :( 1341833046 M * renihs well the problem with ubuntu tends to be ubuntu 1341833050 M * renihs in my experience :) 1341833062 M * renihs lxc and vservers you cant really compare imho... 1341833078 M * WMP 2 years ago i use debian, and i change this to ubuntu ;) 1341833098 M * WMP on debian i have problems with repositories, old packages and dpkg database 1341833121 M * WMP sorry, 3 years ago ;) 1341833184 J * clopez ~clopez@fanzine.igalia.com 1341833190 M * renihs well for me ubuntu is debian and vice versa :p 1341833210 M * WMP no, but ubuntu is based on debian ;) 1341833215 M * renihs well not entirely vice versa but bla, i wonder how the migration to lxc is going to shape 1341833243 M * renihs debian/ubuntu is still sitting on totaly unmaintained crud, like net-tools 1341833253 M * renihs 10 years they didnt manage to get that sane, i wonder how its going to be with lxc :p 1341833288 M * WMP do you thind that ubuntu 12.04 can work on lxc? 1341833299 M * WMP think* 1341833306 M * renihs i would be the wrong person to ask, i am kinda biased :p 1341833308 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-088-075-169-075.pools.arcor-ip.net 1341833327 M * renihs my brain has issues to use "work" and ubuntu in the same sentence :) 1341833337 M * WMP :) 1341833349 M * WMP i have uptime over 1 year on ubuntu ;) 1341833353 M * WMP and i havent problems 1341833373 M * renihs dunno, i am most likely going to stick to vservers for another decade, assuming good bertl is around :) 1341833401 M * renihs as said, i am kinda biased :) 1341833418 M * WMP what distribution you used on vserver? 1341833467 M * renihs i use gentoo, though i had a few vservers with centos (customized) but thats only a few hosts 1341833498 M * renihs i dont mind maintaining binary repos for our hosts, its not like its much work :p 1341833500 M * WMP i thins that you user gentoo ;) 1341833542 M * renihs well, gentoo is kinda simple, straightforwarded and uncomplicated, i always liked that 1341833564 M * renihs if i have a choice that is :) 1341833593 M * renihs otherwise, most edu customers use centos 1341833640 M * renihs and or oracle linux nowadays, rhel is having a hard time to keep up in terms of prices 1341833653 M * renihs but thats going OT too much and bertl is going to slap me :p 1341833661 M * WMP :) 1341833682 M * WMP maybe i thinks about gento 1341833683 M * renihs i cant imagine that debians are sticking their lxc decision though 1341833712 M * renihs i mean, historically, it takes them quite long to actually make things happen 1341833727 M * WMP lxc isn't simple to configure, i cant compare lxc with vserver ;) But lxc is default in kernel :/ 1341833733 M * renihs gentoo is very neat, assuming you have alot time to learn, otherwise i do see why people would not want to use it 1341833746 M * renihs but once mastered, gentoo is very comfortable imho 1341833756 M * WMP ubuntu too 1341833779 M * renihs well, i cant stand cannonical and the way they are doing things 1341833791 M * renihs too many customers had too many issues with the LTS 1341833809 M * WMP i have lts and i havent problems 1341833810 M * renihs paying while receiving no support is kinda ...not good unless you are already rooted in the business 1341833819 M * WMP od 20+ host machines 1341833830 M * WMP on* 1341833831 M * WMP ... 1341833833 M * renihs WMP, well i had all kinds of cases, from machines that officially certified (but not supporting the hardware) 1341833852 M * renihs to kernel bugs not being treated as such and no response within 30 days etc even after escalation 1341833863 M * renihs etc 1341833873 M * renihs i dont know a single customer here still using lts 1341833898 M * renihs wierd stuff, maybe it has improved 1341833904 M * renihs last time i touched it was 2008 i think 1341833955 M * WMP no, you havent true ;) Or i dont know about it 1341833965 M * renihs i just remember a few kinda "insulting" emails from support when i explained them that ...no its not the "kernels" fault that the hardware is not supported, its ubuntus fault not including the required modules for their "certified hardware" :p 1341833973 M * WMP sorry, i must going to frient and talk him abou my new girlfriend :D 1341833983 M * renihs i am sure thats way more interesting :) 1341833984 M * renihs hf 1341833991 M * renihs spammed the channel way too much anyways 1341833991 M * WMP ;) 1341833996 M * renihs but when the cats are sleeping ... :p 1341834512 M * DelTree did I misread or is it that there's no stable vserver for kernel over 2.6.22 ? 1341834862 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc10-aztw24-2-0-cust114.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1341836441 Q * petzsch Read error: Connection reset by peer 1341837030 Q * hparker Remote host closed the connection 1341837734 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:beae:c5ff:fe01:b647 1341839008 J * arekm ~arekm@ixion.pld-linux.org 1341839606 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1341839611 M * Bertl morning folks! 1341839641 M * Bertl DelTree: as in the 'rock stable well tested stable branch' yes 1341839667 M * Bertl (but we are still on the way to stabilization for vs2.4) 1341839714 Q * arekm Quit: works now 1341839910 M * DelTree 2.4 ? are you using the odd/even scheme, so that 2.3 experimental will become 2.4 stable ? 1341839920 M * Bertl correct 1341840243 M * DelTree switching to wheezy will really be a nightmare... :/ 1341841814 Q * Aiken Remote host closed the connection 1341845975 N * ensc Guest2613 1341845985 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54ADF19B.dip.t-dialin.net 1341846394 Q * Guest2613 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1341847649 J * fisted_ ~fisted@xdsl-81-173-189-33.netcologne.de 1341848034 Q * fisted Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1341850258 J * vspas ~vspas@87.213.36.165 1341851199 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1341852234 J * arekm ~arekm@ixion.pld-linux.org 1341852484 Q * vspas Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1341854151 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-088-075-169-075.pools.arcor-ip.net 1341854548 M * Bertl off for a nap .. bbl 1341854556 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1341854700 Q * arekm Quit: leaving 1341856126 Q * clopez Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1341856936 Q * nkukard Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1341857107 J * nkukard ~nkukard@197.87.42.242 1341859332 J * hijacker_ ~hijacker@cable-84-43-134-121.mnet.bg 1341859379 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1341862300 Q * hijacker_ Quit: Leaving 1341862607 J * Aiken ~Aiken@2001:44b8:2168:1000:21f:d0ff:fed6:d63f 1341863065 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:513f:35b0:253d:9bb3 1341866099 J * clopez ~clopez@131.29.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com 1341867619 J * Cholera ~chlorek@siusiak.chlorek.com 1341867644 Q * Cholera 1341867875 J * Cholera ~chlorek@chlorek.com 1341868014 Q * Chlorek Quit: - 1341868014 N * Cholera Chlorek 1341868227 Q * Chlorek Quit: - 1341868235 J * Chlorek chlorek@chlorek.com 1341869109 Q * Chlorek Quit: - 1341869220 J * Chlorek chlorek@chlorek.com 1341869477 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@d201215.adsl.hansenet.de 1341871947 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1341871955 M * Bertl back now ... 1341872976 Q * petzsch Read error: Connection reset by peer 1341873294 Q * renihs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1341873561 J * renihs ~arf@83.65.34.34 1341874482 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1341876013 Q * ensc|w Remote host closed the connection 1341876021 J * ensc|w ~ensc@www.sigma-chemnitz.de