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1337999148 J * jazzanova_ ~boris@173.242.119.177
1337999186 M * jazzanova_ hi, I'd like to move vservers from an older installation, into a fresh new box.  Do I just move the /etc/vservers directories as they are ?
1337999262 M * jazzanova_ new box util-vserver version: 0.30.216, old box: 0.30.214
1337999450 M * jazzanova_ sorry, got go -- but, will read your response. thanks in advance
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1338000195 J * ghislain1 ~AQUEOS@adsl1.aqueos.com
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1338001836 M * Bertl there is no 0.30.216 yet, and you will need to make some adjustments to the guest config if you are really using 0.30.214
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1338002300 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1338002304 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1338033524 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1338033528 M * Bertl morning folks!
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1338036953 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1338036962 M * Bertl_oO off for now ... bbl
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1338046831 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1338048790 J * jazzanova_ ~boris@173.242.119.177
1338048793 M * jazzanova_ hi
1338048917 M * jazzanova_ I have by accident deleted all of my /etc and now I am rebuilding my server. I have the vservers theselves /var/lib/vservers . I am just trying to reconstruct the /etc/vservers.  I have created now on the new server a new vserver, which I called "creative", from which I plan to use the /etc/vservers/creative as a template for the other three vservers. Does that sound like a good plan ?
1338049008 M * Bertl did you do many adjustments to the guest configs?
1338049036 M * Bertl because if they are pretty default, you are probably better off to create skeleton guests and just rsync over the actual guest data
1338049171 M * jazzanova_ these guests worked fine under th esame version of vserver utils. it is the same box.
1338049205 M * Bertl yes, I understand, the question just is if you need a lot of settings changed to a 'default' guest
1338049214 M * jazzanova_ i haven't changed the config files too much.
1338049229 M * jazzanova_ some have a stataic ip, and some have some custom mounts
1338049255 M * Bertl so it might be an option to build skeleton guests
1338049258 M * jazzanova_ i have that recorded on an old vserver host (another box) with older util.s 
1338049265 M * Bertl (they have config but no actual data)
1338049280 M * jazzanova_ how do I do that ?
1338049309 M * Bertl with the skeleton build method (see vserver - build --help)
1338049328 M * Bertl note that it will create a guest dir and /dev entries, so make sure nothing is in the way
1338049812 M * jazzanova_ what is the "context" thing -- it is just any number I can picke ? Can I pick somethin simple, like 1 ?
1338049840 M * daniel_hozac between 2 - 65535 inclusive.
1338049899 M * Bertl it should be unique
1338049912 M * Bertl i.e. it is _the_ identifier for each guest conext
1338050177 M * jazzanova_ ok
1338050198 M * jazzanova_ so should I rsync, or delete the new vserves root dir, and copy the whole thing ?
1338050269 M * Bertl you can rsync over it
1338050313 M * jazzanova_ rsyn -a ?
1338050325 M * jazzanova_ rsync -Ca ?
1338050456 M * jazzanova_ donig it.
1338050457 M * Bertl rsync -axHPSD --numeric-ids :)
1338050674 M * jazzanova_ what should I do, run it again after it is done ?
1338050724 M * Bertl check if the new guest works as expected
1338050731 M * Bertl then shutdown both, new and old
1338050739 M * Bertl rsync again and start the new one
1338051024 M * jazzanova_ there is no old running
1338051038 M * jazzanova_ it is just a filesystem
1338051170 M * jazzanova_ vc_set_sched(): Function not implemented
1338051179 M * jazzanova_ getting this when I try to start the vserver
1338051222 M * daniel_hozac old util-vserver on a new kernel, i guess?
1338051233 M * jazzanova_ ah
1338051261 M * jazzanova_ well no, the version is 0.30.216-pre2864-2+b1
1338051305 M * jazzanova_ and the krnel is 2.6.36.4-vs2.3.0.36.39-boris2+
1338051325 M * jazzanova_ which is somethin I compiled from beng
1338051333 M * jazzanova_ that used to be the kernel under which everything worked.
1338051347 M * jazzanova_ could that be a wrong sysv / plain thing ?
1338051571 M * daniel_hozac no
1338051573 M * daniel_hozac that's old utils.
1338051601 M * jazzanova_ same problem happens on a vserver cerative that I did fresh.
1338051631 M * Bertl let me translate what daniel_hozac is saying: get a more recent util-vserver version :)
1338051654 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@adsl1.aqueos.com
1338051702 M * daniel_hozac your util-vserver version is from november 2009.
1338051734 M * Bertl and oposite to common belief, software doesn't get better with age :)
1338051790 M * Bertl s/oposite/contrary/
1338051799 Q * ghislain 
1338051802 M * jazzanova_ is this one better: 0.30.216-pre3029 ?
1338051810 M * jazzanova_ i have that in apt archives 
1338051832 M * jazzanova_ i'm on squeeze
1338051929 M * daniel_hozac yes
1338052017 M * jazzanova_ I guess I should add that psand repo
1338052237 M * daniel_hozac yeah
1338052713 M * jazzanova_ ok, one vserver is working :)
1338052722 M * jazzanova_ two more to go
1338052781 M * jazzanova_ btw, I was trying to setup wuala, it is like dropbox. it wants the /dev/fuse. is it something that vserver can do ?
1338052877 M * daniel_hozac you would need mount capabilities in addition to /dev/fuse
1338053388 M * jazzanova_ i guess thats a yes
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1338055501 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@adsl1.aqueos.com
1338056772 M * jazzanova_ sudo vserver rearden build -m skeleton --context 3 --hostname rearden.hypervolume.com --interface 173.242.119.178/24
1338056777 M * jazzanova_ the error is
1338056796 M * jazzanova_ vspace: execvp("/usr/lib/util-vserver/vserver-build"): No such file or directory
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1338059730 M * daniel_hozac do you have the util-vserver-build package installed
1338059775 M * jazzanova_ ok, i've been installing and uninstnalling, and now I have a problem
1338059791 M * jazzanova_ when I try to install util-vserver-sysv package, I get an error.
1338059819 M * jazzanova_ at the moment I have a vserver running, but I removed all vserver binaries. should I reboot the computer ?
1338059842 M * jazzanova_ i'm trying to intsall with this: http://repo.psand.net/info/
1338059865 M * jazzanova_ more over, my running guest does not respond
1338059951 M * jazzanova_ gonna reboot
1338059961 Q * jazzanova_ Remote host closed the connection
1338059975 M * Bertl ~
1338059986 M * Bertl hmm, strange ...
1338060638 J * jazzanova_ ~boris@173.242.119.177
1338060640 M * jazzanova_ back
1338060774 M * Bertl wb
1338060775 M * jazzanova_ ok, so I have a problem install util-vserver-sysv package
1338060801 M * jazzanova_ dpkg: error processing util-vserver-sysv (--configure):
1338060801 M * jazzanova_  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
1338060845 M * daniel_hozac do you get any output?
1338060912 M * jazzanova_ not really, but I don't have vprocunhide in /etc/init.d
1338060933 M * jazzanova_ is that supposed to come from a different package ?
1338061004 M * daniel_hozac no, that comes from that package.
1338061123 M * jazzanova_ well I don't get any more output. but looking at the .postinst script there are three lines:
1338061145 M * jazzanova_     update-rc.d vprocunhide start 26 2 3 4 5 . stop 74 0 1 6 .
1338061145 M * jazzanova_     update-rc.d util-vserver start 10 2 3 4 5 . stop 90 0 1 6 .
1338061145 M * jazzanova_     update-rc.d vservers-default start 98 2 3 4 5 . stop 02 0 1 6 .
1338061314 M * jazzanova_ ok, I have commented those lines out, and tried -f install. The package installed, but it didn't create vprocunhide
1338061393 M * jazzanova_ other files in that package are on the filesystem. it is just that the files in /etc/init.d are not created.
1338061492 M * daniel_hozac like what?
1338061815 M * jazzanova_ i purged
1338061820 M * jazzanova_ then reinstalled and it worked.
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1338071916 M * jazzanova_ what init style do I need to set for a guest for inittab to work on it ?
1338072001 M * jazzanova_ Starting kernel log daemon...
1338072020 M * jazzanova_ <-- another issue (another vserver) is stuck here, when I try to starte it.
1338072920 M * daniel_hozac plain initstyle will give the guest an init which will read the inittab file.
1338072935 M * daniel_hozac for klogd, just disable it and you should be fine.
1338072942 M * daniel_hozac or enable the fake klogd support.
1338074251 M * jazzanova_ do you mean to remove a file klog from rc2.d on the guest ?
1338074318 M * daniel_hozac that's one way to do it.
1338074361 M * jazzanova_ i did it and it didn't work
1338074364 M * jazzanova_ still runs it
1338074387 M * jazzanova_ I removed S11klogd from rc2.d on the guest
1338074416 M * jazzanova_ which runlevel is it running ?
1338074965 M * Bertl off for now .. bbl
1338074971 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
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