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1336526518 M * Bertl back now ...
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1336548870 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1336548875 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1336549362 M * nyerup I'd like to build debian packages of util-vserver with slightly different package names, so that I can deploy them to my debian-repo without them being automatically installed on 'apt-get upgrade'. Can someone with insights in the build system tell me how to do this?
1336549986 M * hijacker set the package in state: hold
1336549994 M * hijacker it will not upgrade with apt-get upgrade
1336550013 M * hijacker no need to change names, etc
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1336554807 M * nyerup hijacker: I think that's kind of an suboptimal solution - I'd like to get debian's updates to the ones currently carrying that version, and I'd like to deploy custom kernel packages on a new set of machines. These new kernel packages I would like to set up to depend on the util-vserver packages with modified names.
1336554840 M * nyerup So my wish is basically to be able to maintain two seperate branches of util-vserver packages.
1336554903 M * nyerup .. where one of them is incidently maintained for me by Debian.
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1336557340 M * hijacker your scenario seems a lot more complex. sorry, perhaps someone else will be able to help you.
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1336565428 J * renihs ~arf@83-65-34-34.arsenal.xdsl-line.inode.at
1336565498 M * renihs hello, is there any way to use vserver build to create all directories/files in /etc/vservers but not care about template/clone e.g lets say i have an existing dir /vservers/test -> and i just want to use vserver build to create all configuration
1336565821 M * renihs i tried with "clone" (and gave it an empty dummy dir) but it rightfully complains about and existing /etc/vserver/.vdirbase/testus dir
1336565845 M * renihs i would prefer to use the vserver command to create files/links/config if there is a way 
1336565850 M * renihs else i guess i need to script abit more
1336566072 M * renihs --i-know-its-there hmm interesting option
1336566219 M * renihs still, i dont want to extract from template, nor from clone or likes :(
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1336568255 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1336568259 M * Bertl morning folks!
1336568296 M * Bertl renihs: use the skeleton build method for that
1336568650 M * renihs Bertl, i am trying with skeleton as well but hmm 
1336568666 M * renihs then it overwrites my existing dir with the minimal skel (proc/dev/)
1336568680 M * renihs i think i found a way though, i keep getting distracted though :)
1336568699 M * renihs i will first create with skeleton -> then remove that dir -> then provide the /vservers/testus dir
1336568743 Q * click Read error: Operation timed out
1336568813 M * renihs that works :p
1336568861 M * renihs not elegant and i dont get the hostname set etc, but dont care about that
1336568922 M * renihs but it would be nice to have an option like "--expect-existing-vguest-dirbase" or like
1336568985 M * renihs the idea behind this is -> every night, running guests are cloned (zfs) and those guests build binary packages -> then get destroyed again
1336569007 M * renihs i would prefer using zfs clone instead everything else (copy/tar/rsync) etc 
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1336569101 M * Bertl renihs: well, patches to customize the 'clone' method are probably welcome, so feel free to write, test and submit some
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1336571960 M * renihs Bertl, i will keep that in mind 
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1336578715 M * renihs hmm i fail to find where vserver build adds the "shared portage" on gentoo style 
1336578737 M * renihs trying to avoid adding the shared portage thingie and make it use /etc/vservers/.defaults/fstab instead
1336578956 M * renihs because the entries in .default/fstab are added FIRST, then from somewhere appears the shared portage bindmounts -> can become contradicting
1336579263 M * renihs because in my default fstab i have: /usr/portage/packages /usr/portage/packages   none bind,rw 0 0
1336579274 M * renihs -> but the later added /usr/portage /usr/portage           none bind,ro 0 0 
1336579278 M * renihs removes that 
1336579834 M * Bertl no clues from bash -x ?
1336579839 M * Bertl (or --debug)
1336579866 M * renihs y, well, still searching, i dont want to modify the scripts though
1336579915 M * renihs but that feature, as good as its intentions are, will hit back once you modify /usr/portage bindmounts ....well i will script something to remove them from fstab
1336579930 M * renihs Bertl, is there an option to force vserver bla delete? 
1336579946 M * renihs without y/N question, or should i kill that with an expect? :)
1336579957 M * renihs either i am failing hard, or i dont find it :p
1336580166 M * Bertl I remember there is one, something like --force or so, but it doesn't seem to be documented
1336580211 M * renihs i tried that one too :)
1336580215 M * daniel_hozac --silent
1336580227 M * renihs daniel_hozac, oh that i didnt try :p
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1336580357 M * renihs daniel_hozac, thanks, that worked
1336580376 M * renihs i saw the silent option but that didnt jump my mind
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1336584265 N * arekm Guest70
1336584270 M * Guest70 hi, what is best approach for accessing dynamicly created /dev/ttyUSB* on vserver guest? (I want to plug/unplug devices and be able to see these in guest)
1336584276 N * Guest70 arekm
1336584303 M * Bertl configure udev or whatever handles the device creation to map the devices you want into the guest as well
1336584343 M * arekm hm, didn't know udev can create two device files at the same time, googling
1336584361 M * Bertl udev can run arbitrary commands/scripts on any event
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1336591202 J * jmauch ~jared@puck.nether.net
1336591238 M * jmauch hey -- i'm looking for some vserver/systemd tips.. 
1336591310 M * jmauch I can't get dbus, etc to start at vserver start w/ systemd vs init and figure its something someone must have encountered before.
1336591479 M * Bertl last time we talked about systemd, we discovered that it has a container mode now
1336591520 M * jmauch I'm happy to update docs/wiki about it if I can solve my issue.. but i seem to have reached a dead-end on the wiki, etc.
1336591653 M * Bertl http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/ContainerInterface
1336591729 M * Bertl you might want to check the irc logs for the stuff uranus figured out last time
1336591746 M * jmauch ok.  will do.
1336591767 M * Bertl http://irc.13thfloor.at/LOG/2012-05/LOG_2012-05-07.txt
1336591833 M * jmauch bbiaf
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