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1334720037 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1334720041 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1334720652 J * yang_ yang@jazz.linuxshell.org
1334720749 Q * yang Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1334722343 N * ensc Guest742
1334722353 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54ADDE87.dip.t-dialin.net
1334722764 Q * Guest742 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
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1334728382 J * DreamerC ~DreamerC@122-116-181-118.HINET-IP.hinet.net
1334729644 J * ncopa ~ncopa@3.203.202.84.customer.cdi.no
1334730175 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@adsl2.aqueos.com
1334730712 J * jeroen__ ~jeroen@095-097-051-172.static.chello.nl
1334733367 J * jyryt ~rj@tdream.lly.earlham.edu
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1334734542 J * clopez ~clopez@fanzine.igalia.com
1334736774 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net
1334736850 M * ghislain hello there :)
1334736974 M * ghislain i need a little help about vshelper, if i recall what it does it is a process used to be able to restart a guest within it ?
1334737070 M * daniel_hozac yes
1334737179 M * ghislain ok thanks :)
1334738335 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@87.253.171.205
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1334740149 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-088-075-172-224.pools.arcor-ip.net
1334740407 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@87.253.171.203
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1334743763 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@87.253.171.203
1334744432 J * fb fback@red.fback.net
1334746938 J * A3f62aba1 ~A3f62aba1@cho94-8-88-178-12-119.fbx.proxad.net
1334748000 Q * ensc|w Remote host closed the connection
1334748009 J * ensc|w ~ensc@www.sigma-chemnitz.de
1334748900 J * vspas ~vspas@87.213.36.165
1334749138 Q * bzed Remote host closed the connection
1334749142 J * bzed ~bzed@devel.recluse.de
1334750538 Q * thierryp Remote host closed the connection
1334750643 M * ghislain oh i just got a oops
1334750648 M * ghislain http://paste.linux-vserver.org/20795
1334750677 M * ghislain  3.2.14-vs2.3.2.8, 0.30.216-pre3029  was rebooting to install 3.2.15
1334751123 M * daniel_hozac are you running NFS in your guests?
1334751683 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc10-aztw24-2-0-cust114.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com
1334751731 M * ghislain yes
1334751760 M * ghislain portmap and nfs-comon run on host, and nfs is mounted in guest fstab
1334751861 N * yang_ yang
1334752080 Q * ncopa Quit: Leaving
1334752280 J * ncopa ~ncopa@3.203.202.84.customer.cdi.no
1334752309 M * ghislain the "vserver" process is locked in D state 
1334752328 M * ghislain there is no guest process running anymore
1334752540 P * kari_ 
1334752572 M * ghislain so it must be in the last step of the guest stop
1334752756 Q * Aiken Remote host closed the connection
1334756482 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1334756487 M * Bertl morning folks!
1334756904 M * ghislain hello bertl
1334756946 M * geb hi folks
1334757095 M * ghislain i have a nice gift today , an oops in 3.2.14 :)
1334757442 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave
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1334758059 J * derjohn_mob aj@88.128.69.187
1334759114 Q * _nono_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1334759145 J * _nono_ ~gomes@licencieux.ircam.fr
1334760731 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu
1334761307 M * ghislain the issue is that mounting /umounting in the host the nfs works, it is just when i stop the vserver that it oops
1334761333 M * ghislain so i cannot really test with a mainline kernel  for such a situation
1334761346 M * Bertl maybe upload the oops?
1334761479 M * ghislain it is : http://paste.linux-vserver.org/20795
1334761581 M * Bertl could you annotate that with line numbers from addr2line for me?
1334761950 M * ghislain hum how would you do taht ?
1334761970 M * Bertl addr2line -e vmlinux ffffffffa0070160 for example
1334761987 M * Bertl (note: vmlinux is not the same as vmlinuz)
1334762076 M * ghislain hum i only have a vmlinuZ kernel at hand, searching on the file system for another one
1334762293 M * ghislain i have done /usr/src/linux-headers-3.2.15-vs2.3.2.8aq/scripts/extract-vmlinux /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.15-vs2.3.2.8aq > /root/vmlinux
1334762304 M * ghislain but : (root)>  addr2line -e /root/vmlinux ffffffffa0070160
1334762304 M * ghislain ??:0
1334762317 M * Bertl nah, use the vmlinux from the build tree
1334762334 M * Bertl the installed vmlinuz is stripped, i.e. doesn't contain the necessary debug information
1334762488 M * ghislain i do not have it anymore i overwriited the 3.2.14 build with the 3.2.15 one 
1334762539 M * Bertl well, you should be able to build a new one with the exact same configuration, but you might also keep that tree or at least the vmlinux next time
1334763170 M * ghislain yes i think this will be needed
1334763403 M * ghislain ok host rebooted in 3.2.15 i try to reproduce the issue with it
1334763818 J * thierryp ~thierry@81-66-146-129.rev.numericable.fr
1334763901 J * derjohn_mobi ~aj@c135070.adsl.hansenet.de
1334764066 M * ghislain and i keep the vmlinux at hand
1334764144 M * ghislain but really i start to loose faith in 3.2 even in 3.2.14 i have process in  D state that locks the system this is bad news for me
1334764242 M * ghislain i build in my garage a server and let run 48h two guest with the "stress" util on it but it seems to not match a real use case :D
1334764286 M * Bertl maybe try 3.3.x?
1334764290 J * aj__ ~aj@d126236.adsl.hansenet.de
1334764525 Q * derjohn_mobi Read error: Operation timed out
1334764797 J * derjohn_mobi ~aj@c135169.adsl.hansenet.de
1334765200 Q * aj__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1334765216 J * aj__ ~aj@d062224.adsl.hansenet.de
1334765500 Q * derjohn_mobi Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1334765535 M * ghislain i wanted one that will be maintened for a while so 3.2 seems the best choice on paper
1334765596 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:5c27:b9b5:7d2c:2620
1334766681 Q * _nono_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1334767277 J * _nono_ ~gomes@licencieux.ircam.fr
1334767470 Q * aj__ Read error: Operation timed out
1334768617 M * ghislain there is a strange thing also i can run iotop but if i launch it in context 1 it cannot start
1334768657 M * ghislain it says it lack   - VM event counters (CONFIG_VM_EVENT_COUNTERS) if i   chcontext --silent --ctx 1, it work without
1334768710 Q * fb Remote host closed the connection
1334768726 M * ghislain i just copied vtop way of doing it ^^
1334769119 M * Bertl so the difference is what?
1334769170 M * Bertl i.e. how do you launch it in the spectator context when it fails?
1334769258 Q * A3f62aba1 Remote host closed the connection
1334769400 Q * dowdle 
1334769423 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu
1334769431 Q * thierryp Remote host closed the connection
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1334770982 M * Bertl off for a nap ... bbl
1334770993 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1334771885 J * fback fback@red.fback.net
1334771970 J * ryker ~jalberts@c-67-176-243-86.hsd1.in.comcast.net
1334772824 J * aj__ ~aj@88.128.12.76
1334773112 J * FireEgl FireEgl@2001:470:e056:1:d94b:a278:a97f:c62f
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1334775196 J * A5b0ca96b ~A5b0ca96b@cho94-8-88-178-12-119.fbx.proxad.net
1334775439 Q * A5b0ca96b Remote host closed the connection
1334775683 J * nkukard_ ~nkukard@197.87.42.242
1334775763 Q * nkukard Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1334775904 J * A5b6bbda7 ~A5b6bbda7@cho94-8-88-178-12-119.fbx.proxad.net
1334776087 Q * brambles Remote host closed the connection
1334776804 J * brambles brambles@79.133.200.49
1334776809 J * clopez ~clopez@44.18.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com
1334778603 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1334778607 M * Bertl back now ...
1334778763 J * jazzanova1 ~boris@d108-172-42-187.bchsia.telus.net
1334778786 M * jazzanova1 i want to compile a custom kernel with vserver support, i'm on a debian squeeze system. how do I go about it?
1334779329 Q * ryker Quit: ryker
1334779553 M * Bertl grab the kernel, grab the patches, apply the patches, create the config
1334779578 M * Bertl build the kernel and modules, then install modules and kernels, finally rebuild the initramfs
1334779579 M * jazzanova1 what do you think about this: http://repo.psand.net/info/
1334779692 M * Bertl those are the repositories maintained by Ben Green, they are probably a good source for everyone who doesn't want to build their own Linux-VServer kernel for whatever reason
1334779731 M * jazzanova1 ok, i'll give it a shot
1334780311 Q * cuba33ci Read error: Connection reset by peer
1334780400 J * cuba33ci ~cuba33ci@114-36-244-221.dynamic.hinet.net
1334781169 M * jazzanova1 so I installed that kernel, and util-vserver package from the same server, version 0.30.216-pre3029.  I'm getting error about not being able to access /proc/uptime . I read about setattr, but I don't have it in this version of util-vserver.
1334781346 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving
1334781454 M * Bertl did you reboot?
1334782175 Q * clopez Remote host closed the connection
1334782204 M * jazzanova1 i rebooted
1334782232 M * Bertl there are three util-vserver related runlevel services
1334782284 J * clopez ~clopez@44.18.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com
1334782331 M * daniel_hozac does /etc/init.d/vprocunhide start help?
1334782415 M * jazzanova1 yes, it did
1334782471 M * Bertl one of the runlevel scripts is named vprocunhide
1334782489 M * Bertl enable that one and it should work fine in the future
1334782501 M * Bertl (no idea why that isn't added by default on debian)
1334782569 M * jazzanova1 it is added, I see it in rc2.d -- howcan I know what is my runlevel?
1334782676 M * Bertl runlevel
1334782706 M * jazzanova1 ok, i'm at 2
1334782731 M * Bertl leaves the question why it wasn't executed and/or why it failed
1334782740 M * jazzanova1 do you guys make any money on thisproject ?
1334782751 M * Bertl especially as /etc/init.d/vprocunhide did work
1334782781 M * jazzanova1 if you give me a bitcoin adress, i will send something
1334782793 M * jazzanova1 as a thankyiou
1334782795 M * Bertl there is a donation page
1334782871 M * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/Donations (bitcoin is not something we do yet)
1334782886 M * jazzanova1 ok
1334783316 M * jazzanova1 i'm getting lots of defunct processes on one of my vhosts. example: root     16664  0.0  0.0      0     0 pts/2    Z    21:08   0:00 [insmod] <defunct>
1334783328 M * jazzanova1 any ideas ?
1334783386 M * Bertl the Z indicates a zombie, i.e. a process which is already dead but wasn't reaped by the parent process yet
1334783426 M * Bertl there can be a number of reasons fro those, some are harmless .. check with dmesg, anything unusual there?
1334783582 M * jazzanova1 on the guest or host ?
1334783600 M * daniel_hozac host
1334783618 M * Bertl what does 'vhost' mean for you?
1334783631 M * jazzanova1 sorry, i mean vserver = guest = vhost
1334783635 M * jazzanova1 host = the real server
1334783639 M * jazzanova1 it is happening on the guest
1334783646 M * Bertl okay, please avoid host for the guests :)
1334783664 M * Bertl so why is your guest running insmod?
1334783669 M * jazzanova1 in dmesg on the host I have this: [ 3711.211127] vxW: [�ps�,16903:#40005|40005|40005] did lookup hidden devpts:f1892198[#0,3] 
1334783687 M * Bertl i.e. there is no chance that the guest can actually insmod anything on a properly secured system
1334784070 J * Aiken ~Aiken@2001:44b8:2168:1000:21f:d0ff:fed6:d63f
1334784132 M * jazzanova1 is that dmesg thing about insmod ?
1334784370 M * Bertl nope, it just says that you most likely entered a guest and then checked the processes with 'ps'
1334784394 M * Bertl the enter did bring the pts into the guest which doesn't have access to it
1334784987 M * jazzanova1 ok, I have something strange, especially on one guest. I'm running a custom application that doesn't reap child processes. But this only happens in vserver environment. Do you know why it could be ?
1334784996 M * jazzanova1 (in guest environment)
1334785204 M * jazzanova1 it must have to do with some kind of kernel restriction in guest ?
1334785386 M * Bertl there are many restrictions inside a guest, most of them for security reasons
1334785410 M * jazzanova1 how would I go about narrowing htis down, by relaxing some restrictions ?
1334785432 M * Bertl but in your case, the zombie insmod, I'd look for a reason why insmod is called in the first place
1334785471 M * Bertl maybe replace the insmod with a shell script logging the call and giving some kind of pstree or so that you can figure out what causes the insmod
1334785556 M * jazzanova1 well, insmod is a special case. most of the zombies are defunct process of my application server (called Pliant).
1334785622 M * Bertl which is started by?
1334785623 M * jazzanova1 so if I could see on the kernel level what is being accessed
1334785631 M * jazzanova1 I amstarting it
1334785642 M * jazzanova1 and it forks or creates threads responding to requests.
1334785652 M * jazzanova1 but it doesn't clean up properly
1334785664 M * Bertl there you go, that's the problem
1334785666 M * jazzanova1 since I didn't write that code, i'm thkning of a way to narrow down
1334785680 M * jazzanova1 but it works in a non-guest setup, on a full system.
1334785707 M * Bertl what init style does your guest use?
1334785735 M * jazzanova1 it is a debian system
1334785757 M * jazzanova1 squeeze
1334785781 M * Bertl so probably sysv or plain init style
1334785795 M * jazzanova1 how is that improtant ?
1334785829 M * jazzanova1 is there a way to allow everything for the guest to do ?
1334785832 M * Bertl it is a guest configuration, and in one case (sysv) you don't get an init process for your guest, in the other, the guest is running its own init process
1334785869 M * Bertl well, if you use chroot, then the 'guest' is allowed everything :)
1334785902 M * jazzanova1 i like vserver because I can manager ports better, and I canrestart it.
1334785907 M * Bertl do you get service startup messages (syslog, cron, etc) when you start the guest?
1334785964 M * jazzanova1 on the host ?
1334785968 M * Bertl yup
1334786078 M * jazzanova1 nope
1334786091 M * jazzanova1 nothing shows up in syslog on the host when I start or stop theguest
1334786116 M * Bertl what I meant was, when you start the guest, like 'vserver foo start'
1334786134 M * Bertl do you get any messages (on the terminal)?
1334786163 M * jazzanova1 yes, i get on the terminal a bit
1334786181 M * jazzanova1 Using makefile-style concurrent boot in runlevel 3.
1334786181 M * jazzanova1 Starting enhanced syslogd: rsyslogd.
1334786181 M * jazzanova1 Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server: sshd.
1334786185 M * jazzanova1 this is all i get.
1334786192 M * jazzanova1 on the terminal
1334786195 M * jazzanova1 but nothing inthe logs of the host
1334786205 M * Bertl so, that means you are running with a sysv initstyle
1334786215 M * jazzanova1 ok
1334786230 M * Bertl which in turn means that your guest doesn't have an actual init process running (which could reap your runaway processes)
1334786234 J * aj__ ~aj@d062224.adsl.hansenet.de
1334786283 M * jazzanova1 ok
1334786293 M * jazzanova1 so what I have to do to give it an init ?
1334786310 M * Bertl your service or at least the master process/server should wait for children to die and then collect the exit status information
1334786330 M * Bertl (that's what a properly written service would do)
1334786364 M * jazzanova1 so if it doesn't do that, then the parent "init" waits for them to die ?
1334786365 M * Bertl you can switch to 'plain' init style, that will give you a guest init process, which will then be responsible for such things
1334786379 M * jazzanova1 but they die anyway, quickly, under init.
1334786399 M * jazzanova1 ok, how do I switch for plain init ?
1334786417 M * Bertl just change the initstyle in the guest config
1334786435 M * Bertl http://www.nongnu.org/util-vserver/doc/conf/configuration.html
1334786786 M * jazzanova1 switched
1334786890 M * jazzanova1 after the switch i got this issue: https://support.mayfirst.org/ticket/1520
1334786980 M * Bertl well, there is a fix listed there, maybe try it?
1334787166 M * jazzanova1 why won't you get a bitcoin wallet ?
1334787224 M * jazzanova1 or Dwolla
1334787239 M * Bertl because I've read a lot about it and decided I do not need another virtual currency
1334787257 M * jazzanova1 ok, Dwolla is like paypal without transaction fees.
1334787307 M * Bertl can't use that on ebay yet ...
1334787376 M * jazzanova1 :)
1334787395 M * Bertl but if you consider it a good choice, just send me some hardware :)
1334787398 M * jazzanova1 i openned dwolla last week, linked my bank account. its like paypal, but no fees.
1334787538 M * jazzanova1 I will send you 10 bucks either with e-gold or paypal, when I get money in there. but If you had dwolla, or bitcoin i'd do it now.
1334787688 M * jazzanova1 still get those defunct processes.
1334787693 M * jazzanova1 i guess the init didn't help
1334787878 M * Bertl that might be due to a kernel bug, try the following patch:
1334787891 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/0001-Actually-use-VServer-context-reaper.patch
1334787920 M * Bertl argh, sec, permissions wrong
1334787985 M * Bertl should be fine now
1334788030 M * jazzanova1 i'll try it in 1 hour. thanks.
1334788046 M * Bertl np, but ultimately, you should fix your service :)
1334789285 M * jazzanova1 I downloaded ben greens source, thatis patched. Do I need to run menuconfig before I could build it ?
1334789297 M * jazzanova1 its been ages since I compiled a kernel
1334789496 M * Bertl you probably want to copy the config of your current kernel (from /proc/config*)
1334789505 M * Bertl and run 'make oldconfig' on it
1334789538 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving.
1334789549 M * jazzanova1 ok
1334790174 Q * ghislain Quit: Leaving.
1334790227 Q * puck Quit: Coyote finally caught me
1334790391 Q * dowdle 
1334790507 J * puck ~puck@leibniz.catalyst.net.nz
1334790616 M * jazzanova1 I don't have /proc/config
1334790667 M * Bertl usually it's /proc/config.gz or /proc/config.xz or so
1334790711 M * Bertl but if there really is none in those kernels, I'd suggest to a) send a note to Ben to include it in the future and b) extract the config from the kernel itsel
1334790803 M * Bertl +f
1334790817 M * Bertl (with scripts/extract-ikconfig from the kernel tree)
1334790865 M * Bertl if that fails as well, i.e. Ben didn't include any configuration information, you have to extract it from the source package somehow (debian specific)
1334792284 Q * ncopa Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1334792298 J * ncopa ~ncopa@3.203.202.84.customer.cdi.no
1334793590 M * jazzanova1 eextrarcting doesn't work