1333584658 Q * ensc|w Remote host closed the connection 1333584667 J * ensc|w ~ensc@www.sigma-chemnitz.de 1333593648 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! 1333593654 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1333593734 Q * fback Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1333594216 J * fback fback@red.fback.net 1333600502 J * bergerx ~bergerx@178.233.3.194 1333602239 Q * niki Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1333603484 Q * clopez Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1333606025 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-092-078-116-042.pools.arcor-ip.net 1333607175 Q * derjohn_mob Read error: Operation timed out 1333607653 J * niki ~niki@94.145.207.11 1333608011 J * vspas ~vspas@82-169-243-226.ip.telfort.nl 1333608220 Q * niki Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1333608266 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@adsl2.aqueos.com 1333608621 M * ghislain uranus: no , i have no way of reproducing it easely, mainly 'updatedb' and 'aptitude' trigger the problem but regular process do not seems to do it. 1333609283 J * vspas1 ~vspas@82-169-243-226.ip.telfort.nl 1333609694 Q * vspas Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1333610846 J * vspas ~vspas@82-169-243-226.ip.telfort.nl 1333611209 Q * vspas1 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1333611767 J * vspas1 ~vspas@82-169-243-226.ip.telfort.nl 1333612114 J * vspas2 ~vspas@82-169-243-226.ip.telfort.nl 1333612154 Q * vspas Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1333612384 J * vspas ~vspas@82-169-243-226.ip.telfort.nl 1333612469 Q * vspas1 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1333612660 J * vspas1 ~vspas@82-169-243-226.ip.telfort.nl 1333612719 Q * vspas2 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1333612725 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@87.253.171.210 1333612869 Q * vspas Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1333614734 J * vspas ~vspas@82-169-243-226.ip.telfort.nl 1333614934 J * niki ~niki@94.145.207.11 1333615070 Q * vspas1 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1333615855 J * clopez ~clopez@82.25.60.213.dynamic.mundo-r.com 1333616363 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1333616368 M * Bertl morning folks! 1333617098 J * vspas1 ~vspas@82-169-243-226.ip.telfort.nl 1333617230 J * vspas2 ~vspas@82-169-243-226.ip.telfort.nl 1333617479 Q * vspas Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1333617500 J * vspas ~vspas@82-169-243-226.ip.telfort.nl 1333617579 Q * vspas1 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1333617609 J * vspas1 ~vspas@82-169-243-226.ip.telfort.nl 1333617904 Q * vspas2 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1333617984 Q * vspas Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1333618379 Q * petzsch Read error: Connection reset by peer 1333619665 J * vspas ~vspas@82-169-243-226.ip.telfort.nl 1333619985 Q * vspas1 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1333621304 Q * eyck Read error: No route to host 1333621561 J * eyck ~eyck@77.79.198.60 1333621615 M * Bertl off for now ... bbl 1333621620 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1333621804 N * ensc Guest819 1333621813 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54ADDA88.dip.t-dialin.net 1333622025 J * vspas1 ~vspas@82-169-243-226.ip.telfort.nl 1333622225 Q * Guest819 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1333622389 Q * vspas Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1333623053 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc10-aztw24-2-0-cust114.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1333624654 Q * clopez Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1333624673 J * jrayhawk_ ~jrayhawk@nursie.omgwallhack.org 1333624843 Q * jrayhawk synthon.oftc.net charm.oftc.net 1333628798 M * Alex[fob] hi 1333628886 M * Alex[fob] I have the problem, that current util-vserver errors if I mount a disk into the vserver directory before vserver-build.. 1333629070 M * Alex[fob] afaik the function isDirectoryEmpty fails to ignore the lost+found directory 1333629727 J * clopez ~clopez@82.25.60.213.dynamic.mundo-r.com 1333630115 Q * Aiken Remote host closed the connection 1333632804 Q * Romster Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1333632848 J * Romster ~romster@202.168.100.149.dynamic.rev.eftel.com 1333632926 M * Bertl_oO Alex[fob]: well, current util-vserver is? and why not remove lost+found? 1333633519 Q * clopez Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1333637271 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1333640375 J * clopez ~clopez@82.25.60.213.dynamic.mundo-r.com 1333641248 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net 1333641898 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:6490:dcf6:5e9c:3cd1 1333642791 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1333644396 J * sweil ~stefan@p54ADA312.dip.t-dialin.net 1333644967 Q * sweil Remote host closed the connection 1333644983 J * sweil ~stefan@p54ADA312.dip.t-dialin.net 1333645424 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1333646969 Q * sweil Remote host closed the connection 1333648887 M * ghislain Alex: is not the iknowitsthere is for ? 1333648920 M * ghislain the option i mean 1333649514 Q * niki Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1333650031 J * niki ~niki@94.145.207.11 1333650062 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@tmo-033-249.customers.d1-online.com 1333650919 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1333653710 J * sweil ~stefan@p54ADA312.dip.t-dialin.net 1333653787 Q * ghislain Quit: Leaving. 1333654138 M * Alex[fob] Bertl_oO: it is 0.30.216-pre3029-squeeze0.2-1 (for details: http://p.animux.de/dMtoyRX5Lwa.html) 1333654229 M * Alex[fob] isDirectoryEmpty looks like this: http://p.animux.de/dMtowfgTJNb.html 1333654302 M * Alex[fob] it ignores lost+found if the second parameter is empty or 0... but in vserver-build it explicit passes 1 as second parameter 1333655124 Q * thierryp Remote host closed the connection 1333655333 J * hijacker_ ~hijacker@cable-84-43-134-121.mnet.bg 1333655353 M * daniel_hozac Alex[fob]: no, it ignores lost+found as long as the second argument is _not_ empty or 0. 1333655415 M * daniel_hozac but either way, what ghislain says is true. use the options available. 1333656078 M * Alex[fob] daniel_hozac: okay, iknowitsthere should work, but anyway the script set ignore_lostfound= to empty if the second argument is not empty or 0 1333656140 M * Alex[fob] shouldn't there a && instead of the || in line: test -z "$2" -o "$2" = 0 || ignore_lostfound= 1333659188 Q * hijacker_ Quit: Leaving 1333660279 Q * niki Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1333660344 J * ryker ~jalberts@c-67-176-243-86.hsd1.in.comcast.net 1333661026 Q * sweil Remote host closed the connection 1333661436 N * jrayhawk_ jrayhawk 1333662417 M * ccxCZ is it possible/reasonable to create lvm snapshots inside a vserver? (I want one dedicated to backup jobs) 1333662429 M * ccxCZ if so, which capabilities would I need? 1333662555 M * ccxCZ I'll probably mount --bind the root's /dev there 1333662604 J * Aiken ~Aiken@2001:44b8:2168:1000:21f:d0ff:fed6:d63f 1333662814 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net 1333663020 Q * thierryp Remote host closed the connection 1333663525 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1333663657 Q * ryker Quit: ryker 1333663967 M * ccxCZ once mounted from vserver, there is no way to access filesystem from host? 1333664019 M * daniel_hozac you can enter the guest's namespace. 1333664088 M * ccxCZ I have somethink in tmpfs of one vserver I'd like to transfer elsewhere 1333664228 M * daniel_hozac so vnamespace -e should most likely work then. 1333664378 M * ccxCZ and how do I access something in host's namespace then? 1333664431 M * daniel_hozac one process can only have one namespace. 1333664463 M * daniel_hozac but e.g. vnamespace -e tar ... | tar ... would work. 1333664511 M * ccxCZ hrm okay, I figured I'll tar it as we discuss, but hoped for more elegant way for next time 1333664538 M * ccxCZ isn't there way to mount --bind part of host's fs to the guest when the guest is running? 1333664550 M * Bertl_oO sure 1333664557 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1333664572 M * Bertl still you have to work in _one_ namespace 1333664618 M * ccxCZ doesn't matter as long I can make one namespace access both source and destination 1333664660 Q * vspas1 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1333664673 M * Bertl that depends on your setup 1333664801 M * ccxCZ okay, I have fresh vserver in tmpfs, mounted inside "build" vserver and I want to transfer that into newly created lvm volume, now mounted on /vserver/backups 1333664843 M * Bertl where did the tmpfs come from? 1333664860 M * Bertl i.e. you mounted it from inside the guest? 1333664865 M * ccxCZ yes 1333664878 M * Bertl then this namespace is the only one able to see it 1333664898 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@adsl2.aqueos.com 1333664910 M * Bertl which limits you to mounts _inside_ that namespace as well 1333664955 M * Bertl the namespace from which this one inherits can propagate certain mounts into the guest namespace (the admin namespace for this guest) and 1333664968 M * Bertl you can do other mounts from _inside_ the guest as well 1333665117 M * ccxCZ so I'd have to copy the device node for the lvm volume into the guest? 1333665162 M * Bertl or do the mount from the guest admin namespace into the guest filesystem so that it propagates 1333665206 M * ccxCZ how does this admin namespace work? 1333665245 M * Bertl it is created as a copy of the host namespace, then cleaned up and used as a parent namespace for the actual guest namespace 1333665333 M * ccxCZ well, the volume was obviously created after the build vserver was started, so it wasn't mounted back then 1333665350 M * Bertl it would have been unmounted in the cleanup process anyway 1333665511 M * ccxCZ so how would I go inserting the volume into the guest? 1333665559 M * Bertl enter the admin namespace, mount the volume there into the guest dir 1333665770 M * ccxCZ with vnamespace -e buildserver 1333665831 M * Bertl vnamespace -i 0 -e buildserver ... 1333665978 M * ccxCZ hmm, that still isn't able to see the volume mounted from host. Do you mean I need to do mount of the device there instead of bind? 1333666001 M * Bertl correct 1333666007 Q * bergerx Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1333666080 M * ccxCZ I see, so there is no way to bind filesystem that was mounted in different namespace 1333666099 M * Bertl nope, because there is nothing to --bind from 1333666297 M * ccxCZ ok, so about the lvm snapshots, any advice? 1333666315 J * niki ~niki@94.145.207.11 1333666459 M * Bertl try it and see what fails where, with an strace it is usually easy to pinpoint the required capability 1333666769 Q * FireEgl Quit: Leaving... 1333667349 M * ccxCZ ioctl(3, DM_VERSION, 0x1f51e30) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied) 1333667384 M * Bertl a 3.3.1 kernel I presume? 1333667400 M * ccxCZ 3.0.4-vs2.3.1-pre10.1 1333667607 M * Bertl why a pre releases if I may ask? 1333667629 M * ccxCZ was installing the server at that time 1333667727 M * ccxCZ haven't had time to upgrade and this works, are there some significant changes there? 1333667769 M * Bertl what device is '3' in the ioctl? 1333667878 M * Bertl anyway, try with the ADMIN_MAPPER ccapability 1333667951 M * ccxCZ ccap I presume 1333668020 M * ccxCZ seems it worked 1333668167 M * ccxCZ hmm, I tried lvm_extend but now xfs_growfs doesn't want to accept the new size 1333668205 M * ccxCZ neither does blockdev --getsize64 1333668239 M * ccxCZ yet lvs reports the changed one 1333668295 M * ghislain ohoh i have a very very strange issue 1333668555 M * Bertl ccxCZ: what does dmsetup table say? 1333668584 M * Bertl ghislain: ohoh .. will you tell us? :) 1333668585 M * ccxCZ dunno, resized it again from host 1333668734 M * ghislain sorry lol i am in panic mode lol 1333668763 M * Bertl running around like crazy and shouting at people? 1333668768 M * ghislain i thnik i screwed my 3.2.14 build, must revert , my guest had no ip adress at all 1333668779 M * ghislain yes withotu the shooting 1333668780 M * ghislain ^^ 1333668795 M * Bertl lol, I said shouting not shooting 1333668806 M * ghislain yes i meant shouting ^^ 1333668833 M * Bertl well, obviosly a freudian slip then 1333668913 M * ghislain :) 1333669368 M * ccxCZ http://paste.pocoo.org/show/576745/ 1333669567 M * ccxCZ setpriority -18 failed: Permission denied 1333669597 M * Bertl yes, you cannot raise the guest priority above the given limit 1333669607 M * Bertl but you can advise the kernel to ignore raises 1333669652 M * ccxCZ that's probably not the issue here though 1333669658 M * Bertl IGNEG_NICE 1333669702 A * ccxCZ thinks about whether this actually should be separate vserver or just chroot in host's namespace 1333669743 M * Bertl snapshot and backup typically is done on the host with rather lowlevel access to devices and networking 1333669791 M * Bertl the gain from making it a guest is probably minimal (security wise) and not worth the trouble 1333669809 M * ccxCZ yeah, but rsnapshot pulls in the whole perl thingamajig, I try to keep my host's system's minimal 1333669865 M * Bertl that I can understand, chroot with rbindmount from the host is propably a good choice 1333669906 M * ccxCZ ok. I guess I'll sleep on it though, getting late here 1333669953 M * ghislain humm so my linux-image-3.2.14-vs2.3.2.8 is completly borked and my 3.2.6 is ok humm in theorie they have the same .config what a special night :) 1333669959 M * ccxCZ and I don't want to be screwing up the server just because I'm too sleepy to read what I type. good night 1333670353 M * ghislain http://paste.linux-vserver.org/20788 the diff do not seems to explain why i loose all ip in the guest hum 1333670394 M * Bertl what exactly happens