1332980005 J * clopez ~clopez@82.25.60.213.dynamic.mundo-r.com 1332985720 Q * hparker Quit: I've fallen off the 'net and can't get up 1332987894 Q * clopez Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1332988230 M * Bertl off to bed now .... have a good one everyone! 1332988236 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1332995188 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:beae:c5ff:fe01:b647 1332999034 J * jazzanova_ ~boris@S01060011855fe10f.vc.shawcable.net 1332999084 M * jazzanova_ hi, I'm getting error: vlogin: openpty(): Permission denied <-- is this a common error? 1332999422 M * jazzanova_ why I don't have vserver-copy ? 1333002789 M * daniel_hozac because its use has been discouraged for years 1333003146 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@adsl2.aqueos.com 1333003245 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1333003780 M * jazzanova_ ok, i figured it out. 1333004263 Q * jazzanova_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1333005360 J * eyck ~eyck@77.79.198.60 1333005845 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@87.253.171.212 1333008495 Q * nkukard Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1333008552 M * DelTree 49 1333008683 J * nkukard ~nkukard@196-209-37-247.dynamic.isadsl.co.za 1333010076 M * hparker 42 1333010098 M * daniel_hozac 19 1333010116 M * hparker hrrmm.. I thought the answer was always 42 1333010121 M * hparker Oh well 1333010140 M * daniel_hozac i think it depends on the question 1333010159 M * hparker I didn't know you could go wrong with 42 1333010169 M * hparker Learn something new everyday, thanks! 1333010604 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1333011244 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1333011875 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@87.253.171.197 1333014894 P * kir PING 1333014894 1333015083 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1333015088 M * Bertl morning folks! 1333017375 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1333017786 Q * ensc|w Remote host closed the connection 1333017795 J * ensc|w ~ensc@www.sigma-chemnitz.de 1333018023 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@87.253.171.202 1333018714 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc10-aztw24-2-0-cust114.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1333020285 M * ghislain hello 1333020353 M * ghislain to change a ssyctl setting in a guest vnamespace is not working, what would be needed for that ? 1333020414 M * ghislain i raised it on the host but the guest still show the old one 1333020581 M * daniel_hozac set it in the guest's config. 1333020680 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1333020686 M * ghislain yes but when it is running can we change it ? 1333020689 M * ghislain :) 1333020879 M * daniel_hozac not in a safe manner. 1333021315 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@87.253.171.197 1333022156 Q * Aiken Remote host closed the connection 1333022299 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1333022454 M * ghislain oky :) 1333022573 M * daniel_hozac (the unsafe way is to use vattribute to give the guest capabilities, do it, and then remove them) 1333022589 M * ghislain oh ok i see :) 1333022933 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@87.253.171.202 1333024074 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1333024748 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@87.253.171.197 1333025195 M * Bertl off for now ... bbl 1333025199 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1333025784 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1333025855 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1333026296 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@87.253.171.202 1333029842 J * nonamenation ~blagoj@217.119.250.6 1333029877 M * nonamenation Guys hi! 1333029878 M * nonamenation Which 3.x.x kernel will you recomend me? 1333030287 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc10-aztw24-2-0-cust114.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1333030415 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1333031063 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@87.253.171.197 1333032996 M * ghislain ti depends the capability you need 1333033018 M * ghislain 3.0 is LTS, 3.2 will be maintened by ubuntu it seems and 3.2onward has blkio limiting 1333033036 M * ghislain 3.3 has ext4 resizing live but is still fresh 1333033061 M * ghislain if you want to prevent a guest from taking all disk IO 3.2 should be good 1333033071 M * ghislain if not 3.0 will be maintened longer 1333033213 P * nonamenation 1333033442 M * pmjdebruijn ghislain -stable it's called 1333033473 M * pmjdebruijn with ubuntu choosing 3.2 for their LTS, they will maintain it as long as it needs to be maintained 1333033473 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1333033477 M * pmjdebruijn just means more work for them 1333033488 M * pmjdebruijn with lucid, and 2.6.32 they got a lot of the work for free from upstream 1333033530 M * daniel_hozac ... except they likely employ several of the people "upstream", and as such pay a good bit for it. 1333033709 M * pmjdebruijn well 1333033716 M * pmjdebruijn that's definately true for redhat/suse 1333033723 M * pmjdebruijn I'm not so sure about canonical 1333033727 M * pmjdebruijn they do have some upstream people 1333033733 M * pmjdebruijn but I'm not sure about the kernel 1333033749 A * pmjdebruijn doesn't know really 1333033749 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1333034108 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@87.253.171.220 1333035671 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1333035761 P * kir 1333037070 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:4189:43f8:e749:f402 1333037930 J * clopez ~clopez@82.25.60.213.dynamic.mundo-r.com 1333040565 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1333041403 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1333041635 J * Hugo ~guest@p54A47CB2.dip.t-dialin.net 1333041804 Q * Hugo Remote host closed the connection 1333042937 M * ccxCZ is there a way to mount directories on vserver start, from the context of host? so I can mount --bind host's dir into the vserver 1333043089 M * Bertl_oO yes, with the guest config's fstab 1333043144 M * ccxCZ you mean .../etc/fstab or /etc/vserver/.../fstab 1333043167 M * ccxCZ because the latter seems to use absolute pathnames to mount it's proc etc. 1333043172 M * Bertl_oO /etc/vserver//fstab 1333043204 M * Bertl_oO yes, it uses absolute pathnames, so? 1333043235 M * ccxCZ how do I reach directories not in vdir? 1333043265 M * Bertl_oO the first path is absolute on the host 1333043289 M * ccxCZ so I do /var/www /var/www bind 0 0 1333043297 M * Bertl_oO for example 1333043301 M * ccxCZ thanks 1333043325 M * ccxCZ seemed weird for some reason, so I asked :-) 1333043468 M * ccxCZ I assume there is no mount option to make the bind'ed fs read-only from the guest 1333043493 M * Bertl_oO did you try 'ro'? 1333043549 M * ccxCZ yeah, that doesn't work 1333043552 M * Bertl_oO not sure util-vserver special cases that (yet) in any case, you should be able to use remount,ro (as on the host) 1333043577 M * ccxCZ that would make it read-only on the host too 1333043635 M * Bertl_oO hmm? 1333043669 M * ccxCZ I know there is https://code.google.com/p/bindfs/ bu I wondered if there was some kernel-space solution 1333043692 M * Bertl_oO just bind mount and then remount,ro the bind mount 1333043707 M * ccxCZ in the guest? 1333043710 M * ccxCZ let me try 1333043713 M * Bertl_oO in the guest's fstab 1333043728 M * Bertl_oO i.e. in /etc/vservers//fstab 1333043840 M * ccxCZ wouldn't that make it readonly for everyone? just double-checking before I bork the system 1333043865 M * Bertl_oO why should it? 1333043893 M * Bertl_oO if you do a mount --bind /var/www /media then 1333043908 M * Bertl_oO mount -o remount,ro /media (on the host) 1333043916 M * Bertl_oO do you expect that to change /var/www ? 1333043959 M * Bertl_oO now your /var/www /var/www bind entry basically translates to 1333043973 M * Bertl_oO mount --bind /var/www /path/to/guest/var/www 1333043995 M * Bertl_oO and if you add another one doing the remount,ro, then again /path/to/guest/var/www will be affected 1333044013 M * Bertl_oO in addition, all this happens in a separate filesystem namespace, so the host doesn't even see it 1333044094 M * ccxCZ hmm, I've never put remount in a fstab before 1333044143 M * Bertl_oO then you never did an automated 'ro' bind mount on a recent kernel before :) 1333044234 M * ccxCZ nope, I only read some manpage where they claimed that binds ignore the ro parameter 1333044271 M * Bertl_oO yeah, it's ignored at mount time, a disputeable mainline decision 1333044284 Q * FireEgl Quit: Leaving... 1333044334 M * ccxCZ so I just put two identical lines into the fstab, one having bind in options and the other remount,ro 1333044362 M * Bertl_oO the second one might have 'none' as first path entry (just for optics) 1333044439 M * ccxCZ ok, noted, will try that in a while 1333044465 A * ccxCZ is writing configuration generator for vserver, iptables and powerdns 1333044880 M * Bertl_oO nice 1333045274 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@tmo-094-97.customers.d1-online.com 1333045915 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1333046557 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@88.128.189.205 1333047536 Q * micah Remote host closed the connection 1333047541 J * micah ~micah@micah.riseup.net 1333052257 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1333053527 Q * dowdle 1333053695 Q * ghislain Quit: Leaving. 1333053823 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@148.229.1.11 1333053898 M * ccxCZ in case you were interested: http://wpr.cz/ccx/loggerhead/tinypdns/view/head:/hosts.pl 1333053941 M * ccxCZ the output formatting is still incomplete but all important stuff is there already 1333054438 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc10-aztw24-2-0-cust114.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1333054664 M * ccxCZ I see /etc/vserver/*/{run,cache} are broken symlinks, do I need them for something? 1333054750 M * ccxCZ I see, the run is explained on the flower page, dunno about cache though 1333054853 M * Bertl_oO they are maintained by util-vserver 1333054917 M * ccxCZ well, I'd like to use my own script to create the /etc/vserver hierarchy 1333054948 M * Bertl_oO that's perfectly fine 1333054954 M * Bertl_oO http://www.nongnu.org/util-vserver/doc/conf/configuration.html 1333054999 M * ccxCZ looking at that atm, but I couldn't find if I should create the cache symlink or not 1333055028 M * ccxCZ I assume run is created on start and I have everything else covered 1333055049 M * Bertl_oO there should be a default for the cache entry, but double check with daniel_hozac 1333055233 M * ccxCZ it doesn't hurt to create it, does it? 1333055242 M * Bertl_oO nope 1333055581 Q * imcsk8 Remote host closed the connection 1333055882 J * Aiken ~Aiken@2001:44b8:2168:1000:21f:d0ff:fed6:d63f 1333056410 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@148.229.1.11 1333057354 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1333057701 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1333059249 Q * clopez Ping timeout: 480 seconds