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1329873556 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1329873561 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1329884289 N * nenolod_ nenolod
1329887667 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1329887672 M * Bertl morning folks!
1329892924 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@adsl1.aqueos.com
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1329901023 J * ensc|w ~ensc@www.sigma-chemnitz.de
1329901330 J * stomper ddcf0c83@ircip1.mibbit.com
1329901401 M * stomper someone ?
1329901438 M * Bertl anyone ?
1329901454 M * stomper lol.hello man
1329901476 M * Bertl what's up? looking for a chat?
1329901566 M * stomper my vim has error that open file by vim. ERROR:" message zero "
1329901606 M * stomper config error with .vimrc file ?
1329901805 M * Bertl sounds like a typical Linux-VServer problem indeed!
1329901820 M * Bertl what is your kernel/patch/util-vserver version?
1329901911 M * stomper i am sorry that my vim was installed on windows !
1329901949 M * Bertl hmm, in that case you found the wrong channel ... maybe check #vim instead?
1329902074 M * stomper i think that vim is God the same editor on linux .so come here. 
1329902129 M * Bertl yes, vim is (basically) the same on all supported platforms, but there is no Linux-VServer for Windows, and this channel is all about this specific kind of Isolation
1329902175 M * stomper This I will come yesterday,and see to your chat with someone.
1329902258 M * Bertl yes, I chat with a lot of people here on the channel ... about Linux-VServer and related things
1329902300 M * stomper do you think it is or not the plugin erroneous 
1329902369 M * Bertl could be all kind of causes, vim is quite complex in configuration and very extensible ...
1329902379 M * stomper are you from Austria?
1329902399 M * stomper thanks , i will check the plugin!
1329902512 M * Bertl yes, I am from Austria :)
1329902514 M * stomper ho,i am sorry ,my english is so bad that error question!
1329902556 M * stomper :D
1329902633 J * mib_k6mwuv ddcf0c83@ircip4.mibbit.com
1329902673 M * mib_k6mwuv i am sorry, At just the wrong place 
1329902815 M * cehteh %)
1329902817 M * stomper Bertl, thanks
1329902827 M * Bertl no problem!
1329902827 Q * mib_k6mwuv 
1329902885 M * stomper your system is CentOS ?
1329902929 M * Bertl Linux-VServer isn't distro specific, so you can use it on basically all Linux distros and run all kinds of distros in guest systems
1329902958 M * Bertl e.g. have redhat on the host and debian on the guest
1329903075 M * stomper thanks! About Linux I am a rookie .
1329903224 M * Bertl it's not so complicated as it was 10 (or 20) years ago
1329903234 M * stomper if to setup service like google map by ArcGIS and MySQL ,i will choce redhat or debian ?
1329903246 M * Bertl today you grab a live CD and you're ready to go
1329903277 M * Bertl distro doesn't matter that much, whatever you prefer will do fine for most purposes
1329903325 M * stomper :D,thanks!
1329903382 M * stomper one CentOS ,one Windows 2003 !
1329903452 M * stomper can you give me some material about linux and MySQL ?
1329903480 M * stomper I would appreciate 
1329903550 M * stomper :s
1329903627 M * stomper it's time to go home!bye
1329903698 P * stomper 
1329904793 M * ghislain hello there, if i do a vrsetup -d /dev/vroot15 while the guest is running it will have no bad effect apart from stopping the quota from working till i rebinds it ?
1329904822 J * pmjdebruijn ~pascal@overlord.pcode.nl
1329904827 M * Bertl quota will still be working, just the guest will not be able to do quota ioctls
1329904868 M * ghislain the goal is to temporary remove the vroot module , partprobe and then relaod it
1329904904 M * ghislain then i rebinfd the vroot , this can be done or must i foresee some magial problems if i do it ?
1329904906 M * ghislain :)
1329904986 M * Bertl ah, still working on that kernel upgrade ... :)
1329905004 M * ghislain eheh yes 
1329905008 M * Bertl there could be all kind of issues if the guest is using it
1329905020 M * Bertl but probably the best is to give it a try ...
1329905041 M * ghislain worst case quota are borked or could it be worse ?
1329905058 M * ghislain quota can be rebuitl so this is not a big issue
1329905074 M * ghislain kernel panic would be of course eheh
1329905355 M * ghislain vserver xx exec quotaoff -a, then vrsetup -d , rmmod vroot that should be the safest way ?
1329905395 M * ghislain then i modprobe vroot, vrset then vserver xxx exec quotaon -a
1329905451 M * ghislain this way i should be sure the guest will not use the vroot or do i miss something ?
1329906773 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc10-aztw24-2-0-cust114.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com
1329907880 J * jyryt ~rj@tdream.lly.earlham.edu
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1329912429 J * nameless` ~nameless`@mal35-2-82-228-176-119.fbx.proxad.net
1329913150 M * DelTree is the trick of having some filesystems mounted in /etc/vserver/foo/fstab and nowhere else official ?
1329913173 M * daniel_hozac that's the way it's meant to be...
1329913179 M * Bertl what trick?
1329913270 M * DelTree the trick I like is that the files in the vserver are not seen in the host...
1329913295 M * Bertl well, yes, that's the way it's meant to be
1329913333 M * DelTree but the bad time is when I want to resize the partition... ^_^
1329913361 M * Bertl is it online resizeable?
1329913394 M * Bertl then just enter the guest's management namespace and do the resize
1329913399 M * DelTree online extendable, but not shrinkable... ext3 as usual... ^_^
1329913434 M * DelTree enter the guest's management namespace ?
1329913513 M * Bertl vnamespace --help
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1329913651 M * DelTree that's vserver foo enter ?
1329913661 M * daniel_hozac no.
1329913690 M * DelTree ok... so that's a concept I'm not used to... ^_^
1329913744 M * DelTree I'm using vserver a lot... but understanding half of what I'm doing...
1329913780 J * mronoal 6ea6c496@ircip3.mibbit.com
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1329913821 M * mronoal someone ?
1329913908 M * Bertl welcome back mronoal!
1329914003 M * mronoal lol,Are you in?  my god!
1329914071 M * mronoal how long time online everyday ,Bertl!
1329914179 M * mronoal i have installed CentOS!
1329914185 M * Bertl well, a good portion of the day usually ...
1329914322 M * mronoal :D you must be a veteran fans!
1329914398 M * mronoal how to install MySQL with yum or source code ?
1329914439 M * daniel_hozac you might want to try #centos on Freenode...
1329914487 M * mronoal lol,thanks 
1329914620 M * Bertl yes, I'm kind of a veteran indeed
1329914654 M * mronoal But I am using notebook,my dad in movies on desktop.VM is not good run with linux !
1329914671 Q * Aiken Remote host closed the connection
1329914769 M * mronoal lol, help me on linux. 
1329914867 M * Bertl pick the right channel, there are plenty of folks around who will help you with centos and/or mysql
1329914870 J * bergerx ~bergerx@46.196.251.184
1329914888 M * mronoal my english is so bad,Cannot express mean .i am sorry!
1329914942 M * Bertl there are many non native english speakers on those channels, so except for the occasional 'please rephrase' I guess you're fine
1329915140 M * mronoal lol, i like coputer and Computers's native speakers of English so i will go to here for learning english and make friends.
1329915167 M * mronoal sorry coputer = computer
1329915184 M * Bertl you already made the first step and you're able to communicate, that's all it usually needs ...
1329915243 J * jakobsg ~quassel@87.51.1.143
1329915281 M * mronoal yes! i think i will have happy in here 
1329915397 M * mronoal I go to download MySQL code.my net is bad so i quit. thanks bertl! see you
1329915410 M * Bertl have fun! cya!
1329915431 M * mronoal bye
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1329916576 J * pexapor ~rj@tdream.lly.earlham.edu
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1329917551 M * BenG I'm having trouble executing stuf with vserver <guest> exec
1329917559 M * BenG no idea what's going on
1329917631 M * BenG http://paste.linux-vserver.org/20762
1329917642 M * BenG why can I run ls but not cd?
1329917684 M * Bertl what does 'which cd' answer in your guest?
1329917690 M * Bertl (or on the host, FWIW)
1329917733 M * BenG oh, they both produce no output
1329917753 M * Bertl 'cd' makes only sense in a shell context
1329917769 M * Bertl (who would be interested in changing a dir, then exiting?)
1329917791 M * BenG well in the end I want to change directory then compile something
1329917792 M * Bertl so it is a shell built in basically
1329917801 M * BenG right okay
1329917819 M * Bertl you can execute it like this: bash -c 'cd ...'
1329917821 M * BenG so I need to pass the working path by a different method somehow
1329917838 M * BenG okay thanks Bertl 
1329917849 M * Bertl but be aware, that this will not stick over several executions
1329917874 M * Bertl i.e. you would need to put the cd _and_ the compile into that bash -c ...
1329917935 M * BenG yep, got that
1329917954 M * BenG && is my friend of mine
1329917964 M * Bertl || as well?
1329917964 M * BenG && is a friend of mine
1329918000 M * BenG isn't that for synchronous execution?
1329918005 M * BenG ||?
1329918017 M * Bertl so obviously not :)
1329918044 M * Bertl no, && is _and_ while || is _or_ ... it's that simple
1329918066 M * Bertl i.e. true && echo "foo" vs false || echo "bar"
1329918152 M * BenG that makes no sense to me, is there an example where they would give a different result?
1329918179 M * Bertl sure, just change 'true' to 'false'
1329918209 M * Bertl (or 'false' to 'true' in the || case)
1329918263 M * Bertl here is a tricky but useful one:
1329918291 M * Bertl [ $V -lt 7 ] && echo "below seven" || echo "above seven
1329918293 M * Bertl "
1329918333 M * Bertl well, make that "above six" :)
1329918369 M * DelTree :)
1329918474 M * BenG cheers Bertl 
1329918493 M * BenG did pop in for a bash tutorial, but its very much appreciated :)
1329918569 M * BenG I like the way the error code passes through to the second echo if the first one isn't executed
1329918639 M * BenG and that it doesn't work if the && and || are reversed order
1329918889 M * Bertl well, it doesn't pass through, but the second one is not executed if the first one is false (and), and naturally if the expression so far is false, the last part is executed as it might be true (or)
1329918927 M * Bertl it's more logic than shell magic :)
1329919186 M * BenG right
1329919310 M * BenG in any case, as a result of your tip, I now have util-vserver compiling automatically
1329919997 M * Bertl great! :)
1329922609 M * ghislain is there anybody here using the linux capability to change the kernel while running ? i wonder if this is stable ?
1329922736 M * ghislain it is ksplice i think the techno for this
1329922756 M * Bertl yes, it kind of patches the kernel in place
1329922805 M * ghislain that sound like somethign the kernel and hardware should lock and prevent by any means :)
1329922831 M * Bertl yeah, can't have one without the other
1329922857 M * Bertl a proper solution would be a key signing system for kernel updates, but I don't really like to go there
1329922870 M * ghislain eheh
1329922959 M * daniel_hozac i thought it mostly utilized the kprobe framework
1329923076 M * ghislain seems a ubuntu and redhat only thing from the site even if it say opensource, has been buyed by oracle since
1329923104 M * Bertl well, it is open, but you need somebody to create the 'splices'
1329923110 M * ghislain oh but there is a debian package too hummm
1329923115 M * ghislain oh
1329923119 M * ghislain i see
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1329926249 M * dkg Bertl: signed kernel modules (and refusing to load unsigned modules) are not too far in the future, fwict
1329926298 M * Bertl of course, it's already possible, but I don't think that's the way to go
1329926497 J * jyryt ~rj@tdream.lly.earlham.edu
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1329928024 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc10-aztw24-2-0-cust114.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com
1329928254 M * daniel_hozac it's been the default in Red Hat kernels for years
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1329933806 M * Bertl off for a nap now ... bbl
1329933816 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1329950176 M * jakobsg Is there someone who knows about when there will be a stable 3.x.y kernel, is it weeks or months away?
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