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1327971330 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1327971334 M * Bertl back now ...
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1328004819 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
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1328043341 M * Bertl time for a nap .. bbl
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1328043386 J * bigbadmoon ~blagoj@89.205.105.151
1328043443 M * bigbadmoon Hi guys. Is there a way to install latest ubuntu on linux-vserver with the latest upstart "thing"?
1328043483 M * bigbadmoon I curentely experiemnt ith 2.6.32 kernel and I'm unabele to install it.
1328043514 M * Guy- bigbadmoon: it's certainly possible if you don't insist on upstart; if you do, I don't know
1328043570 M * bigbadmoon Is that possible at all? ubuntu 11.10 without upstart? I was thinking it is a default option with atest ubuntu versions?
1328043593 M * Guy- bigbadmoon: you may not be able to remove the package, but there is certainly no obligation to use it
1328043612 M * bigbadmoon So, instead I can use init, right?
1328043630 M * Guy- bigbadmoon: you just need a way of starting whatever services you want to run inside the guest; init is likely a viable alternative, although my favourite would be runit
1328043646 M * Guy- bigbadmoon: you don't even need init, just initscripts
1328043686 M * Guy- bigbadmoon: util-vserver can start your initscripts on starting the guest, if you set initstyle to the correct value ('sysv', I believe)
1328043718 M * bigbadmoon Do you have any documntation or tutorial? Or at least tell me what to search on the intenet?
1328043733 M * Guy- bigbadmoon: my advice would be to install ubuntu via debootstrap
1328043759 M * Guy- bigbadmoon: then chroot into it, lobotomise the upstart bits, maybe scavenge Debian initscripts for the stuff you actually want to run in the guest
1328043790 M * Guy- I don't have documentation for this, I'm not even sure if it has been done, but I'm pretty sure it would work (I've done _similar_ things)
1328043816 M * Guy- bigbadmoon: what is it you want to run in the guest anyway?
1328043821 M * bigbadmoon ok, thanks, will try.
1328043834 M * bigbadmoon I do not want to leave vserver and go to opnv just because of this.
1328043845 M * bigbadmoon openvz *
1328043897 M * Guy- bigbadmoon: what is it you want to run in the guest anyway?
1328043920 M * bigbadmoon ssh, apache, sendmail. dovecot... standard things....
1328043931 M * Guy- then: why ubuntu? why not Debian?
1328043957 M * Guy- that would be a lot easier
1328043964 M * bigbadmoon I already have working debian, I need ubuntu since it is the most "popular" out there.
1328043966 M * bigbadmoon :)
1328043989 M * Guy- it's popular for reasons that make it hard to run as a vserver guest
1328044067 M * Guy- if you're just playing around, fine, but if you want to use this setup in production, I'd urge you to reconsider :)
1328044108 M * bigbadmoon no no, it is just for plying.
1328044131 M * bigbadmoon I was wondring if there any news if the vserver will support this some time?
1328044148 M * bigbadmoon In openvz alreayd wroking fine but I like vserver better.
1328044248 M * Guy- bigbadmoon: you'd have to ask dhozac or Bertl about that; for all I know, upstart might already be working without a hitch
1328044286 M * Guy- I don't like it (and I don't really like Ubuntu either), so I avoid it when I can
1328044314 M * bigbadmoon Maybe, I did not try with the latest kernel and utils.... who knows....
1328044326 M * bigbadmoon Dude, I'm ubuntu hater No.1....
1328044329 M * bigbadmoon :)
1328044348 M * bigbadmoon But I want to take step with the news....
1328044364 M * Guy- you might want to upgrade the kernel at least; there have been important fixes since 2.6.32, and many performance improvements (e.g. in xfs)
1328044401 M * bigbadmoon What do you recomend? Some of the 2.6.x kenes or 3.x.x.?
1328044450 M * Guy- I don't have a specific recommendation; for xfs, you want at least 2.6.38, but >= 2.6.39 makes you vulnerable to the mempodipper local root exploit, up to 3.2.2 and 3.1.10 I believe
1328044489 M * Guy- (of course, the fix for the exploit is easy to merge into any vulnerable kernel)
1328044566 M * Guy- fwiw, I'm using 3.2.2-vs2.3.2.6 in production and it hasn't crashed more than usual
1328044609 M * bigbadmoon What is "usual".
1328044620 M * bigbadmoon I use 2.6.37 in the last year or so and I have crash 2-3 times per year.
1328044707 M * Guy- well, I do get occasional crashes, but these are mostly related to experimental stuff, such as zfsonlinux, that I use
1328044724 M * Guy- or flaky hardware
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1328049291 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1328049296 M * Bertl back now ...
1328049396 M * WMP Bertl: hello
1328049398 M * WMP i have problem: 
1328049398 J * Aiken ~Aiken@2001:44b8:2168:1000:21f:d0ff:fed6:d63f
1328049402 M * WMP vserver chauwa build -m clone --hostname test --interface eth0:0/32 -- --source /home/vservers/minecraft_build/
1328049403 M * WMP /etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase/chauwa: Function not implemented
1328049431 M * WMP ok, i havent vserver on kernel...
1328049432 M * Bertl first, what kernel/util-vserver version?
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1328049448 M * WMP i forgot about reboot
1328049453 M * Bertl :)
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