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1325570989 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1325570995 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1325580390 M * gucki hey there
1325580429 M * gucki even when using virt_cpu for a guest, top inside the guest shows cpu usage caused by other guests/ the host...?
1325580486 M * daniel_hozac virt_cpu hasn't been implemented for quite some time.
1325580514 M * gucki daniel_hozac: oh ok.. :(
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1325597283 M * ghislain when you have a runaway guest and cannot even do a vps is there any way to kill it ? vserver xx stop do not do anything
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1325597886 M * ghislain i cannot even reboiot the host...
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1325600044 M * daniel_hozac runaway guest?
1325601153 M * ghislain it means that it eats all cpuy and all disk IO
1325601191 M * daniel_hozac vkill --xid <guest> -s 9 should probably help.
1325601245 M * ghislain ok thanks daniel
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1325603647 M * renihs hmm interesting, i just re-deployed 2 vservers on a zfs filesystems, but now (this didnt happen before) i get one error when running vserver-stat
1325603650 M * renihs open(memory.usage_in_bytes): No such file or directory
1325603677 M * renihs i recreated the filesystem under /vservers but thats it 
1325603731 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-092-078-233-184.pools.arcor-ip.net
1325603747 M * renihs interesting, for some reason it now looks for /dev/cgroup//brain/memory.usage_in_bytes
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1325604013 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54ADF325.dip.t-dialin.net
1325604308 M * daniel_hozac that's the way it has been for quite some time now.
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1325605885 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu
1325606061 M * renihs well vservers and zfs seems cute ....6 vserver for the space of one :)
1325606064 M * renihs http://pastebin.com/QxFMfkq9
1325606144 M * renihs chxid doesnt work though
1325606147 M * renihs obviousl
1325606148 M * renihs y
1325606603 M * renihs though i admit i cheated and deployed the same stage3 on all, still should be quiet effective in real world szenarios as well
1325607839 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1325607844 M * Bertl morning folks!
1325607874 M * Bertl renihs: nothing you won't get with unification on all other supported filesystems
1325607937 M * renihs well unification is nice, but then i dont have compression, snapshots etc 
1325607958 M * Bertl you even get a lot of memory saving from unification (which you won't get from zfs)
1325608012 M * renihs also, i admit i have not played with unification alot, that using hardlinks makes stuff trickier 
1325608032 M * renihs well, ram i dont care so much about
1325608037 M * renihs ssd space is far more costly
1325608078 M * renihs + unification is rather limited to libs/bins or?
1325608090 M * Bertl not saying that zfs doesn't have it's advantages ... I hope you don't use the fuse driver though
1325608100 M * renihs Bertl, no, not fuse, hated it :p
1325608103 M * renihs native kernel 
1325608131 M * Bertl any problem with combining that patch with Linux-VServer?
1325608135 M * renihs nope
1325608138 M * renihs ran flawlessly
1325608150 M * renihs 3.1.6-vs2.3.2.5
1325608163 M * renihs the stable ones i didnt try, zfs requires higher kernel version
1325608174 M * Bertl good to know ... you might even try to adapt the missing filesystem attributes (I guess zfs should support xattr)
1325608181 M * renihs it does
1325608198 M * renihs playing around with SA mode now for xattr 
1325608264 M * renihs i am not sure if i would dare to use "testing" vserver and "experimental" zfs for a production env, but i guess i will put up a non-critical semi production environment to see how it works
1325608312 M * renihs and well so far, memory constraints seem neglectable, for 1tb 8-12gb are strongly recommended, +1-2gb per terrabyte then
1325608333 M * renihs but for my intentions (ssds) i dont care so much about terrabytes :)
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1325608446 M * renihs and i have to admit, using zfs on both my desktops now since nearly 2months 
1325608450 M * renihs no issues so far 
1325608522 M * renihs i guess i will put the next vserver generation on zfs and see how it goes, for non super essential inhouse stuff :)
1325608532 M * renihs just to drive a solaris colleague crazy :)
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1325617808 M * Bertl off for now .. bbl
1325617813 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
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