1324514716 Q * geb Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1324515393 J * geb ~geb@mars.gebura.eu.org 1324515600 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection 1324515651 Q * click Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1324516613 Q * geb Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1324517461 Q * fback Remote host closed the connection 1324518178 J * geb ~geb@mars.gebura.eu.org 1324518706 Q * hparker Quit: I've fallen off the 'net and can't get up 1324518966 J * fback fback@2a02:2780:9000:50::2 1324533901 J * sannes ~ace@cm-84.209.106.118.getinternet.no 1324534851 J * petzsch ~markus@p57B64E3C.dip.t-dialin.net 1324537021 J * ncopa ~ncopa@3.203.202.84.customer.cdi.no 1324537510 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1324538582 Q * Mr_Smoke Remote host closed the connection 1324538584 J * Mr_Smoke smokey@layla.lecoyote.org 1324538638 Q * Hunger Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1324539629 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@adsl2.aqueos.com 1324542196 M * Bertl_oO off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! 1324542201 N * Bertl_oO Bertl_zZ 1324542282 N * ensc Guest21360 1324542291 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54ADF2F6.dip.t-dialin.net 1324542701 Q * Guest21360 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1324543426 Q * zbyniu Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1324544151 Q * ensc|w Remote host closed the connection 1324544160 J * ensc|w ~ensc@www.sigma-chemnitz.de 1324544864 M * ncopa linux-3.0.14 is out 1324544879 M * ncopa humpf 1324544889 M * ncopa even vserver kernel patch fails 1324545238 M * DelTree testing is quicker this way... ^_^ 1324545381 J * petzsch ~markus@p57B64E3C.dip.t-dialin.net 1324545558 M * ncopa rejects on fs/ext4/super.c. I was able to edit the patch manually :) 1324545596 M * DelTree oh... :) 1324545611 M * DelTree I thought of a compiling problem... 1324545623 M * ncopa patch does not apply 1324545628 M * ncopa its compiling now 1324545661 M * DelTree vserver still is an external patch ? 1324545668 M * ncopa yup 1324545710 M * DelTree using debian I never know this kind of things... ^_^ 1324545742 M * ncopa making alpine linux I have to know this kind of things... 1324545766 M * DelTree :) 1324545834 A * DelTree wonders how to tell he doesn't know alpine linux... (rather thinks about a car than linux, with this name "alpine").... ^_^ 1324545936 A * DelTree checking what kind of a packaging system the thing uses... 1324546233 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1324546766 M * ncopa we have our own package system 1324546798 M * ncopa which i seriously think is the fastest on planet (that supports crypto signing) 1324546829 M * DelTree and how does the install of a pkg go ? 1324546837 M * ncopa apk add 1324546863 M * ncopa grabs from http and does checksumming of data while waiting on io... 1324546935 M * ncopa and it unpacks on the fly 1324546965 M * ncopa so while the other package managers are done downloading, apk is done installing :) 1324547112 M * DelTree great... 1324547128 M * DelTree and what if the network breaks right in the middle of the process ? 1324547144 M * DelTree the system is in what kind of unknown state ? 1324547200 M * ncopa rollback 1324547216 M * ncopa techically, it extracts the files as .apk-new 1324547231 M * ncopa and once the checksum and crypto signed is confirmed ok 1324547237 M * ncopa it will rename all the files 1324547243 M * DelTree ok... 1324547256 M * ncopa if fails, it'll remove them 1324547269 M * ncopa oh and we have a vserver iso image 1324547272 M * DelTree (really had to tease you about that, sorry)... 1324547282 M * ncopa sure... bring it on :) 1324547302 M * ncopa we do know what we are doing ;) 1324547311 M * ncopa and its a reasonable question 1324547332 M * ncopa the vserver iso image 1324547349 M * ncopa is vserver kernel + basic tools for brining up the guests 1324547369 M * ncopa it will install the system at boot into tmpfs 1324547378 M * ncopa so you can run your vserver host from tmpfs 1324547390 M * ncopa and then mount the disks dedicated for guests 1324547414 M * ncopa so you could boot the vserver host from CF or USB 1324547423 M * ncopa and run the guests from disks 1324547447 M * ncopa try the alpine-vserver iso in a virtual machine 1324547466 M * ncopa you can have your first guest up and running within 60-120 seconds 1324547503 M * ncopa ram only 1324547505 M * ncopa no disk 1324547563 M * ncopa oh other thing 1324547579 M * ncopa the base system excluding kernel is ~10MB 1324547595 M * ncopa compared to debians 110MB 1324547758 M * DelTree yeah... but busibox and uclibc... ;) 1324547774 M * ncopa they are both pretty posix compat nowdays 1324547793 M * ncopa i run my desktop with that 1324547797 M * ncopa xfce desktop 1324547799 M * ncopa with firefox 1324547816 M * ncopa works like a charme without the GNU bloat 1324547904 M * DelTree looks like something to try... indeed... only trouble is the size of the stack of many things to try... ^_^ 1324547920 M * ncopa yeah.. 1324547941 M * ncopa the only reason you wouldnt want alpine linux is if you depend on closed source stuff 1324547955 M * ncopa since its not ABI compat with glibc 1324547960 M * ncopa so no adobe flash 1324547971 M * ncopa no binary only redhat tools 1324547992 M * ncopa no closed source nvidia/ati drivers 1324548205 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1324549885 J * click click@ice.vcon.no 1324551101 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:beae:c5ff:fe01:b647 1324551823 J * petzsch ~markus@p57B64E3C.dip.t-dialin.net 1324554514 J * zbyniu ~zbyniu@ip-62.181.188.13.static.crowley.pl 1324556159 Q * kir Quit: Leaving. 1324556165 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1324558614 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1324559175 Q * Aiken Remote host closed the connection 1324563695 J * petzsch ~markus@p57B64E3C.dip.t-dialin.net 1324564028 Q * Mr_Smoke Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1324564230 J * Mr_Smoke smokey@layla.lecoyote.org 1324564466 J * Hunger ~Hunger@proactivesec.com 1324565585 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1324565719 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc10-aztw24-2-0-cust114.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1324565735 Q * BenG 1324565741 Q * geos_one Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 8.0/20111119075347] 1324566133 J * Mr_Smoke_ smokey@layla.lecoyote.org 1324566138 Q * Mr_Smoke Read error: Connection reset by peer 1324567155 Q * michal Remote host closed the connection 1324567156 J * michal ~michal@www.rsbac.org 1324567192 M * hparker http://instagr.am/p/arPLb/?ref=nf 1324568004 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc10-aztw24-2-0-cust114.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1324568060 J * lars ~lars@188.180.162.73 1324571887 Q * ncopa Remote host closed the connection 1324573798 Q * hparker Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1324573868 P * kir PING 1324573868 1324573906 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:df1:85df:9fb7:7359 1324574509 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net 1324575409 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1324575414 M * Bertl morning folks! 1324577810 J * urbee ~urbee@93-103-199-233.dynamic.t-2.net 1324577812 M * urbee y0 1324577951 M * urbee how much of a performance difference it is running stuff inside a vserver guest or running it on a plain linux system 1324577972 M * urbee alot? 1324577990 M * urbee I'm talking about a vm guest with no limits and a machine with 8 cores and 16 threads 1324578012 M * urbee which will run lamp and loaded 1324578265 Q * lars Remote host closed the connection 1324578332 M * trippeh urbee: Tiny, if at all 1324578900 M * Bertl typically unmeasureable 1324579116 M * urbee Even at full load? 1324579285 M * Bertl well, if you have a single guest, and put it under full load, it will perform as well as if you put the same load on the host (or on an unpatched system) 1324579328 M * Bertl of course, if you are runnung 10 guests, where each of them will hog a single real system, you will need a system which is 10 times as powerful, we can't work miracles :) 1324579827 M * urbee thats what i wanted to know yeah :p 1324579829 M * urbee single vm only 1324579831 M * urbee thanks ;) 1324580460 J * petzsch ~markus@p57B62FAB.dip.t-dialin.net 1324583235 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1324584020 J * petzsch ~markus@87.182.47.171 1324584606 N * Mr_Smoke_ Mr_Smoke 1324586340 J * hijacker_ ~hijacker@cable-84-43-136-96.mnet.bg 1324587239 J * Aiken ~Aiken@2001:44b8:2168:1000:21f:d0ff:fed6:d63f 1324587583 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1324589551 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1324589687 Q * hijacker_ Quit: Leaving 1324591268 Q * sannes Remote host closed the connection 1324591271 J * petzsch ~markus@p57B62FAB.dip.t-dialin.net 1324591932 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1324593924 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1324594721 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc10-aztw24-2-0-cust114.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com