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1324266074 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1324266084 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1324300734 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1324300738 M * Bertl morning folks!
1324301333 N * ncopa_ ncopa
1324301335 M * ncopa morning
1324301407 M * ncopa i jusr built a backport of 	the 3.0.9-vs2.3.2.1 to 3.0.13-vs2.3.2.1 in case somebody is interested in that
1324301419 M * ncopa a patch rebase
1324301603 M * Bertl any idea why 3.0.12 isn't on kernel.org?
1324301609 M * Bertl *3.0.13 even
1324302025 M * arekm web page? because script checking versions is too broken and nobody at kernel.org staff cares to increase priority of that task
1324302756 M * Bertl well, it's always good to know that nobody cares :)
1324305467 M * ncopa i suppose you have to monitor http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v3.0/
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1324306667 M * Bertl why should I care, when not even the mainline folks do?
1324307303 M * Bertl off for now ... bbl
1324307308 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1324307443 M * mnemoc linus started using github for a reason...
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1324311916 M * sid3windr yeah, because the other thing was down.
1324312066 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1324312081 M * Bertl not to mention that Linus doesn't care about 3.0.x either
1324313050 M * arekm Bertl: why he should? other people are taking care about 3.0.x
1324313190 M * Bertl I didn't say or implicate he should, I just stated that Linus preference/choice regarding github is of no relevance to lazy ass folks on kernel.org not updating bugfix releases for 3.0.x
1324313221 M * Bertl (or not fixing scripts there, if you prefer)
1324313255 M * arekm afaik they have too much work with the whole infrastructure especially there are now less people to deal with it
1324313397 M * Bertl so setting up a site like kernel.org takes more than a man-year? I really doubt it, but hey, kernel folks needed almost 10 years to look into virtualization :)
1324313429 M * arekm Bertl: web page is probably 1/20 of the infrastructure
1324313459 M * arekm and they are redoing the entire infrastructure from scratch, with new way of working
1324313487 N * dkg_ dkg
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1324318294 J * jazzanova_ ~boris@96.49.122.184
1324318296 M * jazzanova_ hi
1324318311 M * jazzanova_ is vserver better to run with debian or with ubuntu ? or it doesn't mater ?
1324318331 M * jazzanova_ 2nd question: is it ok to run vserver on top of a VPS ?
1324318825 M * Bertl I guess debain or ubuntu doesn't really matter, both are not really up-to-date in regard to the Linux-VServer patches and tools, so you need to build your own packages if you want an up-to-date system
1324318848 M * Bertl regarding the second question, what do you mean with 'on top of a VPS'?
1324318926 A * pmjdebruijn is guessing a VMware instance or something like that?
1324319050 M * jazzanova_ i just bought a  VPS thing at VolumeDrive.com
1324319056 M * jazzanova_ i think it Xen based
1324319057 M * jazzanova_ i don't know
1324319082 M * jazzanova_ vspace: clone(): Operation not permitted
1324319086 M * jazzanova_ what does this mean ?
1324319113 M * jazzanova_ i tried running vserver build
1324319229 M * Bertl run testme.sh first
1324319287 M * jazzanova_ i installed from debian package
1324319336 J * Hunger ~Hunger@proactivesec.com
1324319388 M * jazzanova_ http://pastebin.com/pUSUihau
1324319476 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:a80d:f87f:1543:663
1324319732 M * jazzanova_ so, any ida ?
1324319873 M * Bertl wrong kernel, try with one which supports Linux-VServer 
1324319965 M * jazzanova_ ok, so I gotta get back to the VPS guys and tell them that
1324320000 M * Bertl your current kernel seems to be 2.6.18-238.12.1.el5.028stab091.1
1324320083 M * Bertl which looks very much like an OVZ kernel to me
1324320131 M * jazzanova_ what is OVZ ?
1324320141 M * Bertl something similar to Linux-VServer 
1324320167 M * pmjdebruijn right
1324320168 M * jazzanova_ so should I be able to using a different virtualization inside my vps ?
1324320175 M * pmjdebruijn probably not
1324320189 M * pmjdebruijn you usually can't stack two similar virtualization technologies
1324320216 M * jazzanova_ what should I tell those VPS guys ? To add support for Linux-VServer?
1324320220 M * pmjdebruijn no
1324320223 M * pmjdebruijn it can't work
1324320227 M * Bertl i.e. you are already in a 'guest '
1324320247 M * pmjdebruijn jazzanova_: you either need a physical host... or a KVM/VMware host
1324320251 M * jazzanova_ ok
1324320276 M * pmjdebruijn though
1324320279 M * Bertl of course, you could probably run qemu inside that system
1324320281 M * pmjdebruijn if you wan to do funky things
1324320296 M * pmjdebruijn jazzanova_: you might want to read up on virtualization technology in general
1324320469 M * jazzanova_ ok, thanks guys
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1324320477 M * Bertl np
1324320896 M * Bertl off for a nap ... bbl
1324320902 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1324329200 M * Bertl back now ...
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