1323303010 M * tsugu ok now i got to roll, thanks for your help Bertl ! 1323303012 M * tsugu bye 1323303016 P * tsugu 1323306234 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@adsl2.aqueos.com 1323306385 Q * qwerty1 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1323307175 Q * ghislain Quit: Leaving. 1323307366 J * qwerty1 ~werty@19NAAFIKA.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1323307913 Q * Elizacat Read error: Connection reset by peer 1323310732 N * ensc Guest19741 1323310742 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p4FEC6DED.dip.t-dialin.net 1323311149 Q * Guest19741 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1323311627 Q * PowerKe Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1323313430 M * Bertl off to bed now .. have a good one everyone! 1323313439 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1323315759 J * PowerKe ~tom@94-226-105-186.access.telenet.be 1323316033 J * bjpenn ~hello@c-67-160-201-8.hsd1.ca.comcast.net 1323316363 Q * bj_penn Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1323316746 J * bj_penn hello234@75-147-136-225-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net 1323317207 Q * bjpenn Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1323322526 Q * monrad Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1323322599 Q * DLange Read error: Connection reset by peer 1323322614 Q * karasz Read error: Connection reset by peer 1323322633 Q * mnemoc Remote host closed the connection 1323322642 J * karasz ~karasz@shell.opensde.net 1323322650 Q * Marillion Remote host closed the connection 1323322671 J * monrad-51468 ~mmk@domitian.tdx.dk 1323322691 Q * padde Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1323322706 Q * tokkee Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1323322713 Q * biz_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1323322773 Q * _Shiva_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1323322847 J * padde ~padde@patrick-nagel.net 1323322881 J * _Shiva_ shiva@whatcha.looking.at 1323322898 J * Marillion ~dirk@178.63.150.30 1323322929 J * tokkee tokkee@osprey.tokkee.org 1323322956 J * mnemoc ~amery@shell.opensde.net 1323322968 J * DLange ~DLange@dlange.user.oftc.net 1323323843 Q * Aiken Remote host closed the connection 1323325340 J * transaci1 ~transacid@transacid.de 1323325341 Q * transacid Read error: Connection reset by peer 1323325897 J * biz ~biz@baze.de 1323326488 Q * transaci1 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1323327224 J * ncopa ~ncopa@ti0143a340-0424.bb.online.no 1323327461 Q * qwerty1 Quit: No Ping reply in 300 seconds. 1323328235 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@88.128.228.219 1323329062 J * Guest19769 ~transacid@transacid.de 1323329969 J * transaci1 ~transacid@transacid.de 1323330073 Q * Guest19769 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1323330524 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1323330658 Q * transaci1 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1323330845 J * transaci1 ~transacid@transacid.de 1323331316 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@adsl2.aqueos.com 1323331498 Q * transaci1 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1323331898 J * transaci1 ~transacid@transacid.de 1323333534 Q * zbyniu Read error: Connection reset by peer 1323334193 J * zbyniu ~zbyniu@ip-62.181.188.13.static.crowley.pl 1323334679 Q * LuckyLuke Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1323334921 J * LuckyLuke ~luca@host65-83-static.228-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it 1323336768 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:18e9:4e01:86c1:ce1 1323337617 Q * ncopa Quit: Leaving 1323338996 J * ncopa ~ncopa@3.203.202.84.customer.cdi.no 1323342157 Q * hparker Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1323342346 N * transaci1 transacid 1323344716 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@88.128.231.103 1323344972 J * qwerty1 ~werty@9KCAACN72.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1323345818 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1323349834 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1323349861 M * Bertl good morning! 1323350126 M * Mr_Smoke afternoon :) 1323351215 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:beae:c5ff:fe01:b647 1323352234 M * yang hi 1323352250 M * yang what's the command again to add the v6 address to the guest without restarting 1323352270 M * yang I was seeking for the manual on website 1323352314 M * Bertl naddress ? 1323352351 M * yang ok, thanks 1323356734 Q * arekm Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1323361925 Q * ncopa Quit: Leaving 1323366195 M * Mr_Smoke Bertl: still around ? 1323366228 M * Mr_Smoke got a question regarding shared portage in gentoo (host and guests) 1323366248 M * Bertl yep, still around 1323366263 M * Mr_Smoke I4d never noticed until now, but since the shared portage tree is mounted ro in the guests, they keep wanting to apply global portage updates 1323366276 M * Mr_Smoke I have the vague feeling that this didn't happen before 1323366287 M * Mr_Smoke But dunno what triggered it 1323366330 M * Bertl sounds like a 'gentoo question' to me, no idea what global portage updates are and if they are supposed to happen or not? 1323366343 M * Mr_Smoke mh 1323366384 M * Mr_Smoke it's not a simple gentoo question, because in normal gentoo, you don't mount /usr/portage bind,ro into other environments 1323366406 M * Mr_Smoke but I see your point 1323366426 M * Bertl what do you do when you have several gentoo chroots (without any Linux-VServer :)? 1323366433 M * Mr_Smoke I don't do that :) 1323366453 M * Mr_Smoke i'll go ask 1323366462 M * Bertl but be can agree that it isn't a Linux-VServer specific question either :) 1323366559 M * Mr_Smoke true :) 1323366629 M * Bertl anyway, if you see a problem with that setup, which doesn't exist on non Linux-VServer setups (chroot, similar), please let me know (ideally with an example what goes wrong) 1323366905 M * Mr_Smoke well the problem is caused by the shared portage tree, that's obvious 1323366924 M * Mr_Smoke apparently portage stores some data somewhere about having completed these infamous global updates 1323366932 M * Mr_Smoke I need to figure out where and how to update that 1323366948 M * Mr_Smoke A-HA 1323366950 M * Mr_Smoke I'm on to something 1323366970 J * arekm ~arekm@ixion.pld-linux.org 1323367180 M * Mr_Smoke that --metadata did something 1323367186 M * Mr_Smoke not sure what though 1323367282 M * LuckyLuke and remember that usr/portage/distfiles too needs to be written 1323367299 M * LuckyLuke on my systems usr/bin/portage has always been mounted bind,rw in guests 1323367381 M * Mr_Smoke Really ? 1323367411 M * Mr_Smoke you mean /usr/portage right ? 1323367841 M * LuckyLuke yeah sorry no bin :D 1323367913 M * LuckyLuke metadata should get updated by emerge --sync, the other things it updates (don't know exactly what it is but you can see it if you run emerge --sync in root vserver and the try to run emerge in a guest vserver) should be under /var - at least afaik 1323367962 M * LuckyLuke there is some documentation in gentoo-land about sharing portage tree (originally written to share usr/portage via NFS but should equally apply to mount -o bind between vservers) 1323368184 M * LuckyLuke you wouldn't want to mount -o bind,rw in a vserver where someone else has root, but as long as all servers are managed by the same organization I don't really see any problem. And you can run emerge in more than one vserver at a time without problems - all compiling takes place under /var/tmp/portage (which I usually mount as tmpfs filesystem, if you have enough ram that'll give you a good speedup) 1323368248 M * Bertl off for now ... bbl 1323368256 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1323368922 Q * hparker Remote host closed the connection 1323369071 M * Mr_Smoke LuckyLuke: hm yeah 1323369091 M * Mr_Smoke I'm aware of all that 1323369095 M * Mr_Smoke but the problem remains 1323369131 M * Mr_Smoke I do a --sync daily on the host, where the normal portage tree is. That tree is shared to the guests, with readonly access 1323369150 M * Mr_Smoke now, whenever I emerge something in a guest, I get this "Performing Global Updates" ... 1323369160 M * Mr_Smoke Except it wants to run updates from 1Q-2008 1323369168 M * Mr_Smoke It's as if I've never used emerge on it 1323369181 M * Mr_Smoke once I do it, I'm fine for a time (I suspect just the one day) 1323369188 M * Mr_Smoke but then it starts over 1323370270 J * geos_one ~chatzilla@chello080109195117.4.graz.surfer.at 1323371485 Q * geos_one Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090915070141] 1323372091 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:beae:c5ff:fe01:b647 1323373008 J * geos_one ~chatzilla@chello080109195117.4.graz.surfer.at 1323378826 Q * ghislain Quit: Leaving. 1323379024 J * Aiken ~Aiken@2001:44b8:2168:1000:21f:d0ff:fed6:d63f 1323382245 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@d141042.adsl.hansenet.de 1323383520 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1323384017 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@88.128.245.233 1323384599 Q * geos_one Remote host closed the connection 1323385722 J * bjpenn ~hello@c-67-160-201-8.hsd1.ca.comcast.net 1323386046 M * LuckyLuke Mr_Smoke: you could try remount usr/portage in rw and see if things improve, but the global updates are usually stuff under /var so the problem may be somewhere else 1323386048 Q * bj_penn Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1323386078 J * bj_penn hello234@75-147-136-225-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net 1323386205 Q * bjpenn Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1323386575 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1323388486 Q * geb Ping timeout: 480 seconds