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1321582672 J * click_ click@ice.vcon.no
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1321583575 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1321583581 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1321594669 J * sannes ~ace@cm-84.209.106.118.getinternet.no
1321597211 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@p578EF5B9.dip.t-dialin.net
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1321600010 J * ncopa ~ncopa@3.203.202.84.customer.cdi.no
1321602612 Q * fisted Read error: Connection reset by peer
1321603097 J * fisted ~fisted@xdsl-87-78-217-181.netcologne.de
1321603118 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@adsl2.aqueos.com
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1321603803 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net
1321603989 Q * nkukard resistance.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1321604085 J * nkukard ~nkukard@41-133-198-167.dsl.mweb.co.za
1321606639 N * monrad monrad-51468
1321611339 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@ip-81-210-228-111.unitymediagroup.de
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1321613753 J * pmjdebruijn ~pascal@overlord.pcode.nl
1321613870 J * petzsch ~markus@p57B65AB4.dip.t-dialin.net
1321614364 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc10-aztw24-2-0-cust114.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com
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1321614578 J * nkukard ~nkukard@41-133-198-167.dsl.mweb.co.za
1321614652 J * zbyniu ~zbyniu@ip-62.181.188.13.static.crowley.pl
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1321616973 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1321616977 M * Bertl morning folks!
1321617078 J * petzsch ~markus@p57B65AB4.dip.t-dialin.net
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1321621086 J * petzsch ~markus@p57B64DF2.dip.t-dialin.net
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1321622714 M * Bertl off for now ... bbl
1321622718 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
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1321623527 J * lomandv ~lomandv@119.146.220.44
1321623564 M * lomandv 大家好
1321623599 M * lomandv 第一次用这个东西希望大家多多指教。
1321623726 M * Mr_Smoke And same to you.
1321623791 M * lomandv hello
1321623804 M * lomandv HI
1321623831 M * Mr_Smoke hi
1321623881 M * lomandv 请问这里是聊什么主题的呢，我第一次用这个软件不太会用
1321624789 M * renihs 大家好
1321624826 M * lomandv 你好
1321624840 M * lomandv 终于看到有人发汉字了
1321624908 M * renihs actually i just pasted the "hello everyone" :)
1321624923 M * lomandv 老大别吓我
1321624980 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@ip-81-210-228-111.unitymediagroup.de
1321624992 M * lomandv my god
1321624994 M * renihs 我害怕你吗？
1321625026 M * lomandv ：）
1321625076 M * renihs i fear you will need to communicate in english though if you have issues with the software :)
1321625089 M * lomandv I ask, What is the topic discussed here?
1321625097 M * renihs vserver :)
1321625194 M * lomandv I think here is ask questions, because I just installed ubuntu11.10, but no sound, do not know why.
1321625237 M * renihs i am pretty sure thats the wrong channel then, you might wanna try ubuntu on freenode 
1321625288 M * lomandv Oh, sorry, I have the wrong place. It does not bother you for the.
1321625400 M * lomandv 谢谢你，我要离开这里了，因为我的话题不一样，我在这里只会打扰到大家的讨论。
1321625411 M * lomandv Thank you, I want to leave here, because my topic is not the same, I am here only to disturb the discussion.
1321625463 M * lomandv Goodbye
1321625934 J * lamvak ~lamvak@91.150.198.7
1321626062 M * lamvak hey, i cloned a vserver that was using initstyle gentoo (and it was gentoo guest indeed) and it doesn't want to boot; was i supposed to specify initstyle with the clone build too?
1321626092 M * lamvak and if so, do i need to delete and clone it again, or can i modify and fix it now?
1321626613 M * lamvak shoud just setting style in that vservers etc subtree suffice?
1321627003 J * petzsch ~markus@p57B64DF2.dip.t-dialin.net
1321627247 M * daniel_hozac yes
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1321628050 J * lamvak_ ~lamvak@91.150.198.7
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1321629351 J * chrissbx ~chrissbx@69-196-180-202.dsl.teksavvy.com
1321630864 J * lamvak ~lamvak@91.150.198.7
1321631090 M * lamvak hey, i see (rummaging through google indexed site archives) that in gentoo's documentation for vserver there was once note on how to share portage tree between host and guest ( note: http://paste.linux-vserver.org/20664 ); but i don't see it anywhere in newest versions of documentation (either on gentoo's or vserver documentation)
1321631110 M * lamvak is this discouraged nowadays?
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1321636433 M * arekm was anyone able to run systemd in guest?
1321638638 M * daniel_hozac i'm not aware of anyone really trying.
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1321639201 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@adsl2.aqueos.com
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1321642667 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1321642671 M * Bertl back now ...
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1321645795 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:beae:c5ff:fe01:b647
1321646293 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc10-aztw24-2-0-cust114.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com
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1321650223 J * Aiken ~Aiken@2001:44b8:2168:1000:21f:d0ff:fed6:d63f
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1321651985 N * cuba33ci_ cuba33ci
1321653100 P * BenG Now, where's that...
1321653405 M * chrissbx How to backup a server (whole system) with tar correctly? 
1321653418 M * chrissbx It never occurred to me that uid/gids could even be a problem.
1321653458 M * Bertl --numeric-owner
1321653468 M * chrissbx Somehow I just realized that several systems of mine have them messed up. Only explanation so far I have is that at least one of the two systems went through tar at some point.
1321653479 M * chrissbx Yeah, I guess so then.
1321653485 M * Bertl also keep all the attributes and make sure to re-unify the guests after restoration
1321653494 M * chrissbx I know about the re-unify.
1321653515 M * chrissbx I'm not using attributes (inside the guests); but can tar keep them?
1321653566 M * Bertl depends on the tar, but modern tar can preserve almost anything :)
1321653625 M * chrissbx I'd love to have just one option to tar, --whole-system or --global or --numeric-everything.
1321653747 M * chrissbx Now, does the --numeric-owner need to be given on packing, unpacking or both?
1321653795 M * chrissbx Of course the man page won't tell, and describe the option as "always use numbers for (..) names"
1321653831 M * Bertl well, I'd suggest on both, but I presume it should suffice on packing, because when you unpack, there simply isn't any information about the owner/group except for the numbers :)
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1321653857 M * chrissbx Ok, thanks.
1321654041 A * chrissbx creates tar-numbers and tar-names wrappers, and a tar shell alias that just dies.
1321654096 M * Bertl np
1321654260 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:945c:805e:d40a:c58f
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1321658139 J * petzsch ~markus@p57B64DF2.dip.t-dialin.net
1321658344 J * WMP ~oftc@auburn.sored.pl
1321658349 M * WMP hello
1321658355 M * WMP is possible to stop all vservers?
1321658663 M * Bertl what do you mean by 'stop'?
1321658672 M * WMP vserver * stop
1321658673 M * WMP ;)
1321658829 M * Bertl vsomething vserver -- --running -- stop
1321658862 M * WMP ok, thx
1321658871 M * Bertl np