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1318989470 M * cehteh i've just rebased patch-3.0.4-vs2.3.1 to linux 3.0.6, trivial conflicts fixed, anyone interested?
1318989933 M * cehteh next point, ever considered to use klibc instead dietlibc?
1318990084 J * manana ~mayday090@178.162.120.195
1318994136 J * fisted_ ~fisted@xdsl-87-78-210-108.netcologne.de
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1318996097 M * Bertl why 3.0.6? why not 3.0.7?
1318996141 M * Bertl regarding klibc vs dietlibc: give a proof of concept that it works, and I'm sure daniel_hozac will consider it
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1318997916 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1318997922 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1319014543 M * daniel_hozac and some reasons for why to switch...
1319014678 M * renihs change! :p
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1319021358 M * cehteh daniel_hozac: just convinience, klibc is there on any initrd linux, dietlibc is an optional dependency .. and maybe klibc is even smaller, but that has to be proven. well i was just thinking if it works with little effort, this would be a nice option (switch detect between klibc/dietlibc in configure) not to replace dietlibc
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1319021405 M * cehteh Bertl_zZ: oh is 3.0.7 out .. can do that later, i was to lazy to update git, did that few days ago
1319022427 M * arekm klibc misses some functionality afaik
1319022560 J * derjohn_foo ~aj@213.238.45.2
1319022856 M * daniel_hozac i've never seen klibc before :)
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1319024507 J * jeroen__ ~jeroen@095-097-051-172.static.chello.nl
1319025230 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1319025236 M * Bertl morning folks!
1319026777 Q * PowerKe Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1319027143 M * Mr_Smoke mo'in
1319027366 M * Bertl cehteh: patch for 3.0.7 was uploaded yesterday
1319027451 M * Bertl regarding klibc, it might work, but I'm not sure it provides the necessary isolation
1319027599 M * cehteh isolation of the libc is only an issue when it tries to link more external libs? nss and so on?
1319027610 M * cehteh if the libc is selfstanding its ok or?
1319027668 M * Bertl it should be, but that probably needs to be checked as well
1319027789 M * cehteh yeah .. afaik klibc would shine there even more than dietlibc 
1319027840 M * cehteh but its arguable if its worth the effort, i'll see if i can give it a try and when it turns out to be trivial then we can discuss further
1319027877 J * PowerKe ~tom@94-226-105-186.access.telenet.be
1319027883 M * Bertl excellent suggestion!
1319027931 M * cehteh (may take a while, i am still busy building a kitchen and we are moving soon)
1319028458 M * Bertl np, it works with dietlibc atm, so take your time
1319028477 M * Bertl off for now, got some work to do as well ...
1319028482 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1319028485 M * Mr_Smoke Hey btw
1319028492 M * Mr_Smoke what's the status of the current 2.3.1 patch ?
1319028503 M * Mr_Smoke still exp ? almost stable ? *puppyeyes* stable ?
1319028535 M * Bertl_oO call it development, being prepared for code review and used for stabilization
1319028607 M * Mr_Smoke Ok :)
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1319042140 M * WMP how to check how many vserver use ram?
1319042179 M * Mr_Smoke how avout vserver-stat ?
1319042209 M * WMP ok, no problem ;)
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1319043997 M * ccxCZ why does util-vserver depend on dietlibc?
1319044283 Q * Chlorek charon.oftc.net solenoid.oftc.net
1319044283 Q * nox charon.oftc.net solenoid.oftc.net
1319044283 Q * fback charon.oftc.net solenoid.oftc.net
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1319044305 M * ccxCZ it does not seem to play well with hardened gcc
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1319044395 M * Mr_Smoke ccxCZ: hm, hows that ?
1319044423 M * Mr_Smoke I4ve been compiling util-vserver with hardened gcc for ages
1319044722 M * daniel_hozac as have i...
1319044747 M * ccxCZ dietlibc just fails to compile, no error message, just weird returncode from some call
1319044762 M * ccxCZ I'll pastebin it if you give me few minutes
1319045334 M * ccxCZ http://pastebin.ca/2091524
1319045404 M * Mr_Smoke Huh
1319045414 M * ccxCZ x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.5.3 nomultilib / hardened gentoo
1319045449 M * Mr_Smoke Out of my league :/
1319045450 M * ccxCZ not hardened kernel though, booted from grml livecd atm
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1319045538 M * ccxCZ yeah, I was just as baffled. I just switched to vanilla gcc for vserver and it seems to compile okay then
1319045734 M * daniel_hozac diet is segfaulting.
1319045833 M * ccxCZ yeah, the exitcode is 128+signal when killed by it right?
1319047102 M * ccxCZ how would I enable access to a serial line to a vserver?
1319047181 M * daniel_hozac copy the device node.
1319047240 M * ccxCZ so no special restrictions there? are block devices unprotected too?
1319047485 M * ccxCZ hmm, can vservers mknod by default?
1319047502 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1319047507 M * Bertl back now ...
1319047523 M * Bertl ccxCZ: no, mknod is not allowed by default
1319047588 M * Bertl ccxCZ: it uses dietlibc, because glibc would break the isolation, and ulibc didn't work back then
1319047668 M * ccxCZ break how?
1319047747 M * ccxCZ just renaming the libc.so and using that would worked if you just wanted make second copy of it in memory
1319047843 M * daniel_hozac glibc loads libraries.
1319048081 M * ccxCZ makes sense. I guess that behavior can't be disabled in a sane way
1319048181 M * ccxCZ btw have you tried klibc too?
1319048617 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:beae:c5ff:fe01:b647
1319049452 M * Bertl klibc didn't even exist back then, IIRC, and no we didn't try that yet, although somebody seems to plan to give it a try
1319049642 M * Bertl but unless it somehow breaks the isolation (like glibc) it would probably be suited for the task
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1319051897 M * Mr_Smoke Bertl: is there a way to know the vserver context ID or name from within ?
1319052018 M * Bertl if that information is not hidden, then via /proc/self/vinfo
1319052560 M * Mr_Smoke hm let's see
1319052590 M * Mr_Smoke Sweet, thanks :)
1319052652 M * Bertl you're welcome!
1319052767 M * Bertl off for a nap .. bbl
1319052771 M * Mr_Smoke And don't hesitate to drop me a line if you make any sense out of my trace
1319052771 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1319052772 M * Mr_Smoke some day :)
1319052780 M * Mr_Smoke Sleep well!
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1319055539 J * mike mike@no.phear.eu
1319055818 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1319055822 M * Bertl back ...
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