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1318476731 M * Bertl off to bed now .. have a good one everyone!
1318476737 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1318495975 M * renihs well i know this is totally OT, but its driving me crazy and i dont find documentation on it, i assume kernel hackers know it though :) there is a "Memory" line in dmesg, e.g: Memory: 3080416k/3144512k available, first value is being effective memory in system, but the 2nd? :(
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1318499178 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1318499183 M * Bertl morning folks!
1318499202 M * Bertl renihs: the first is the 'usable' memory, the second is the 'physical' range
1318499228 M * Bertl i.e. there are some pages 'unusable' or 'missing' 
1318499435 M * renihs morning Bertl, hmm well absent seems to be addressing holes and stuff, but on one system it shows e.g 3gb memory in system but the 2nd value is 5gb (?), on my system its nearly the same, why would the physical range differ that much (e.g 4gb memory in system, 5gb physical range?)
1318499506 M * renihs its driving me slightly nuts, trying to figure out why linux on a system with 64gb memory shows only 61 gb and then i stumbled accross this (searching for a secure way to find exactly how much memory a system has :p)
1318499510 M * Bertl maybe because the memory is mapped at an aligned address?
1318499528 M * Bertl upload the entire boot log, I'm pretty sure the information is there
1318499774 M * renihs Bertl, will do, if you would take a look at it and waste some time :) ... i dont exactly get what you mean with aligned address tbh :p, at least the discrepancy is huge, sec
1318499923 M * renihs Bertl, http://paste.pocoo.org/show/491923/  
1318499947 M * renihs the Memory: 4048680k/5242880k available is abit confusing, 4gb physical memory in there, 2nd value (whatever that is) shows 5gb
1318500094 M * renihs and i failed to find something in kernel docs :(
1318500316 M * Bertl see the BIOS-e820 ranges?
1318500777 M * renihs yup oh hmm, that would translate into 5242880K
1318500792 M * renihs so the bios reports that 5gb value?
1318501072 M * renihs so the 2nd value is physical address space reported by e.g bios, and the first value is actual usable memory? 
1318501654 M * Bertl precisely
1318501819 M * renihs Bertl, thanks alot! 
1318501838 M * Bertl you're welcome!
1318501965 M * renihs now i must set on towards the quest to figure out why (an identical laptop) reports more space than mine, i cant accept that :)
1318502020 M * Bertl note that many architectures report the max_pfn as 'pages available' not the real address space (0 - upper)
1318502118 M * Bertl and the question is, does it report more space before or after the slash?
1318502386 M * renihs it reports more space after the slash (2nd) than mine, he does have 1gb more memory than me though
1318502554 M * Bertl well, not quite unexpected then I'd say ... i.e. the memory is probably aligned differently so you get different ranges
1318502563 M * Bertl (check them in the bootlog)
1318504720 M * renihs hmm though this is odd, my Memory: 080416k/3144512k, however my Bios-e820 range shows 4096mb, another discrepancy, well, i will certainly dig around more there, never gave those things a though
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