1315613383 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1315613387 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1315639978 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl_oO
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1315643628 M * Natasiel hello vserver channel
1315643659 M * Natasiel I was wondering if there was any docs about host/guest kernel compatibility?
1315643705 M * Bertl_oO the guest uses the host kernel, almost all known distros work with a wide range of kernels so no real problem there
1315643845 M * Natasiel the problem is with squeeze host (2.6.32) and RH8 guest (2.4.18), amongst other things, ps segfault
1315643879 M * daniel_hozac wow.
1315643892 M * daniel_hozac RH8 was the second Linux distribution i ever installed... :-)
1315643893 M * Bertl_oO how unexpected :) anyway, ps was fixed some time ago
1315643896 M * Natasiel I've read that procps might have to be recompiled on the guest, but wondered what _else_ might be broken
1315643935 M * Bertl_oO a lot of things will be broken in 'old' distros, as they never have been updated/fixed
1315643937 M * Natasiel daniel_hozac: yes, the goal is to revamp the hardware of an old server :)
1315643978 M * Natasiel aye, then some other virtualization might be better than vserver then?
1315643986 M * Bertl_oO nevertheless, we still have a 2.4 Linux-VServer kernel if you really want to provide the 2.4 kernel API
1315643991 M * Natasiel ...(something to actually boot the old kernel)
1315644014 M * Bertl_oO that's an option too, kvm would be a good choice, IMHO
1315644027 M * Bertl_oO but be aware, that system will be wide open security wise
1315644057 M * Natasiel wide open? as in chroot?
1315644286 M * Bertl_oO as in everybody who knows the IP can probably mess with your host :)
1315644373 M * Natasiel crap, I still want to sleep at night! Anyway, thanks a lot guys; I'll look into kvm as I fear 2.4 Linux-VServer would now break my host system :)
1315644419 M * Bertl_oO well, same goes for a 2.4 kernel in kvm
1315644441 M * Bertl_oO i.e. it won't break your host, but it will be open as well
1315644490 M * Bertl_oO so the most secure solution is to fix up broken userspace inside a guest on a Linux-VServer 2.6 kerne
1315644525 M * Bertl_oO the second best solution is probably a 2.4 Linux-VServer kernel inside kvm with that system as guest
1315644560 M * Bertl_oO anyway, really off now ... bbl
1315644571 M * Natasiel thanks Bertl_oO 
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1315689176 M * arekm bah, per-ss should be automated :/
1315689204 M * daniel_hozac hmm?
1315689218 M * arekm daniel_hozac: creation of per-ss file
1315689239 M * daniel_hozac use your configuration management to make it happen?
1315689264 M * arekm won't work if I change the way of cgroup mouting manually to/from per-ss
1315689278 M * daniel_hozac what?
1315689351 M * arekm if I stop mounting cgroup per subsystem then vserver utils won't notice that
1315689371 M * daniel_hozac they mount it themselves...
1315689390 M * daniel_hozac according to the configuration
1315689412 M * arekm but I mount things earlier on my own
1315689446 M * daniel_hozac well, if you prefer things being difficult, why are you complaining about them being difficult? :-)
1315689527 M * arekm every cgroup app wants to do mouting on it's own - it's crazy 
1315689571 M * daniel_hozac the beauty of filesystem APIs...
1315689577 M * daniel_hozac or something.
1315689953 M * arekm yet there are only two common configurations, per-subsystem (used by default by libcgroup) or subsystems merged
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