1313973846 M * chrissbx daniel_hozac: found my old script again.
1313973870 M * chrissbx So, should I clean it up and offer for inclusion?
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1313987440 J * sannes ~ace@cm-84.209.106.118.getinternet.no
1313987781 M * Bertl_oO Mr_Smoke: it means that a process called 'runscript.sh' in the process context #187 did try to access an entry in /dev/pts which belongs to the host
1313987800 M * Bertl_oO (the access was prevented by Linux-VServer)
1313987836 M * Bertl_oO off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1313987841 N * Bertl_oO Bertl_zZ
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1314002855 M * Mr_Smoke Bertl_zZ: interesting
1314002870 M * Mr_Smoke Thats part of the initscripts then
1314003356 M * Guy- Bertl: do you recall our adventure with zfs-fuse vs. posix acl? just in case you're interested, with a new git snapshot of zfs-fuse I can now actually set ACLs on zfs-fuse, but they still don't work :) (they aren't honored, just stored)
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1314013360 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1314013397 M * Bertl morning folks!
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1314014895 J * ignaz ~ignaz@85-126-150-194.work.xdsl-line.inode.at
1314015707 M * hijacker afternoon
1314018947 M * Mr_Smoke hello Bertl 
1314018992 M * Mr_Smoke Would you spare a couple minutes to explain that devpts thing ?
1314018999 M * Mr_Smoke Here's what I don't understand :
1314019021 M * Mr_Smoke this particular guest is hardly different from the others, it's identical in terms of /dev structure and initscripts
1314019030 M * Mr_Smoke Where could this unwanted access to /dev/pts come from ?
1314019062 M * Bertl usually it comes from folks 'entering' a guest and bringing their pts information with them
1314019118 M * Bertl (entering here means 'veserver guest enter', not e.g. ssh guest)
1314019119 M * Mr_Smoke I do use vserver enter quite a lot, but why would it "bring" pts data on this one and not on the others ?
1314019122 M * Mr_Smoke (yup)
1314019168 M * Bertl maybe because you somehow triggered that script while having entered the guest? I don't know what your scripts do
1314019196 M * Mr_Smoke Hm no actually these errors happen when I start/stop the guest
1314019202 M * Mr_Smoke so I'm not actually inside when I do that
1314019225 M * Bertl what kernel/patch version and what guest is that?
1314019227 M * Mr_Smoke The script is just one of the usual init scripts from gentoo (openrc)
1314019232 M * Mr_Smoke gentoo guest
1314019245 M * Mr_Smoke kernel 2.6.38.7-vs2.3.0.37-rc15
1314019259 M * Bertl could you upload that script?
1314019280 M * Mr_Smoke Well runscript is the "frontend" for something else
1314019285 M * Mr_Smoke and I don't know what
1314019289 M * Mr_Smoke but hang on
1314019376 M * Mr_Smoke There's keymap stuff involved
1314019378 M * Mr_Smoke might be that
1314019394 M * Mr_Smoke There a 3 other scripts that are logged for this error
1314019426 M * Mr_Smoke all part of openrc
1314019431 M * Mr_Smoke all present on all other guests
1314019447 A * Mr_Smoke is puzzled
1314019673 M * Bertl well, can't say anything without a look at the script ...
1314019818 M * Mr_Smoke I'm abotu to wgetpaste
1314019887 M * Mr_Smoke Bertl: here they come :
1314019888 M * Mr_Smoke http://paste.pocoo.org/show/462420/
1314019902 M * Mr_Smoke http://paste.pocoo.org/show/462421/
1314019921 M * Mr_Smoke http://paste.pocoo.org/show/462422/
1314019922 M * Mr_Smoke http://paste.pocoo.org/show/462423/
1314019931 M * Mr_Smoke runscript.sh, init.sh, init-early.sh, init-vserver.sh
1314020033 M * Bertl I see quite a lot there which should not be executed inside a guest
1314020093 M * Bertl including the console/font/etc settings
1314020127 M * Bertl I'm also pretty sure a properly configured gentoo guest doesn't call those
1314020133 M * Mr_Smoke I'm going to check that it knows it's a vserver guest
1314020153 M * Mr_Smoke hm it does
1314020199 M * Bertl probably simplest way is to add -x to /bin/bash and run the guest startup with --debug
1314020390 M * Mr_Smoke Ah
1314020397 M * Mr_Smoke There's an initscript without a name
1314020399 M * Mr_Smoke I smell a rat
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1314020613 M * Mr_Smoke Hm apparently that's "normal" with mysql O.o
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1314020951 M * Mr_Smoke I dunno where I went wrong
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1314023354 M * Guy- is there a tool to decode BCaps from /proc/virtual/xxx/status? vattribute --xid xxx --get --bcap says "vattribute: vc_get_umask(): Function not implemented"
1314023366 M * Guy- oh sorry, just vattribute --xid xxx --get
1314023421 M * Guy- (is what reports the errorÖ
1314023422 M * Guy- )
1314023583 M * Guy- I'm trying to find out why sudo inside a guest would die saying
1314023596 M * Guy- setreuid32(0, 1031)                     = -1 EPERM (Operation not permitted)
1314023782 M * daniel_hozac you can't strace sudo
1314023797 M * daniel_hozac it will not work.
1314023843 M * Guy- I was under the impression that if I did it as root, using strace -u user, and /etc/suid-debug existed, then it would
1314023853 M * Guy- but in any case, sudo doesn't work without strace either, saying the same:
1314023866 M * Guy- sudo: setreuid(ROOT_UID, user_uid): Operation not permitted
1314023911 M * daniel_hozac what kernel?
1314023961 M * Guy- 2.6.38.6-vs2.3.0.37-rc15
1314023987 M * Guy- (btw, strace -u user sudo id works as expected)
1314024001 M * Guy- (on another box)
1314024070 M * Guy- it works on the host on the box where it doesn't work in the guests, fwiw
1314024141 M * Guy- util-vserver 0.30.216-pre2982
1314024174 M * Guy- I now tried in a 64bit guest as well, but it fails the same way
1314024441 M * Guy- I have a different box with 2.6.38.8-vs2.3.0.37-rc17 where I can't reproduce this problem
1314024446 M * Guy- so maybe it was fixed?
1314024493 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu
1314025155 J * mmouse ~mmouse@office.haefft-verlag.de
1314025227 M * mmouse hi all. quick question: what is the maximum count of IPs (v4) I can have in a single guest. Somewhere in the wiki it says 16 or 64, is this the current status?
1314025236 M * daniel_hozac unlimited.
1314025293 M * mmouse sounds good, thank you.
1314025356 M * daniel_hozac Guy-: i guess you'd have to ask Bertl.
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1314037205 M * m_ueberall Well, *color me dumb*! Just tried without success to connect a serial cable to the X60T's... VGA connector. DOH! Since I already got a serial->USB adapter lying around--is there a way to capture to boot messages via /dev/ttyUSB*?
1314037272 M * m_ueberall s /to boot/the boot/
1314037317 M * Mr_Smoke Hm dunno about that, but there's always netconsole
1314037343 M * daniel_hozac either one only works once your network/USB is loaded and operational.
1314037372 M * Mr_Smoke True.
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1314038436 J * sannes ~ace@cm-84.209.106.118.getinternet.no
1314038523 M * Bertl if your laptop has less than 2GB, and firewire, you might be able to use that to capture the console
1314039229 M * Bertl but laptops make usually bad servers anyway ...
1314039242 M * Bertl +grammar
1314039522 M * MooingLemur heh, I use a couple of netbooks as out of band servers (one has a 3G data usb dongle).  Built-in UPSes, and their own wireless network between them :P
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1314039876 J * sannes ~ace@cm-84.209.106.118.getinternet.no
1314040054 M * m_ueberall Well, for simple tests it works as it should :). Unfortunately, both the serial and the firewire port are part of the docking station I don't have. :(
1314040858 M * m_ueberall I guess the cheapest solution would be a cardbus->serial adaptor (which costs an additional 15 bucks, though, but still cheaper than the unneeded docking station). Anyone tried this before?
1314040993 M * Bertl depends on the chipset, if you find one which actually _is_ a supported serial device on the bus, then it works fine
1314041151 M * m_ueberall another dreadful "if" again :p
1314041453 M * Guy- daniel_hozac: yes, the sudo setreuid issue is fixed in 2.6.38.8-vs2.3.0.37-rc17 (I upgraded on the misbehaving box and it works now)
1314041658 M * Bertl m_ueberall: the 'oxford chipset' is known to work
1314041725 M * Bertl e.g. Oxford CF950 should be fine
1314041772 M * Bertl the problem is, there are quite a number of cheap serial cardbus adaptors, which are basiaclly an usb adaptor and a serial usb converter in one enclosure :)
1314041892 M * m_ueberall thanks for the tip... let's see whether I can locate the CF950 on amazon.de or similar.
1314041976 M * Bertl does not need to be that specific chipset, but I guess you got the idea, yes?
1314041984 M * m_ueberall yes.
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1314046460 M * DelTree why does newvserver install exim4 when I have nullmailer and mail-transport-agent specified ?
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1314047794 J * cuba33ci_ ~cuba33ci@111-240-176-240.dynamic.hinet.net
1314048067 M * Bertl I presume newvserver is the debian tool/package which is deprecated, obsoleted and strongly discouraged, yes?
1314048129 M * Bertl (read: use it at own risk, do not bother anybody but the maintainer with it)
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1314049593 M * DelTree Bertl: alright... what should I use, then ?
1314049752 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@h163.140.40.162.dynamic.ip.windstream.net
1314049954 M * Bertl the maintained and supported tool to create guests is util-vserver
1314052091 M * _are_ m_ueberall: if it is about access to the laptop for debugging, you *might* be able to use the AMT feature. If I read it correctly, the X60T should have one: http://software.intel.com/en-us/blogs/2008/01/28/tips-tricks-for-setting-up-accessing-an-intel-amt-client/ http://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/download-the-latest-intel-amt-open-source-drivers/
1314052356 M * Bertl hmm, sounds interesting, but I doubt that it will work as serial console
1314052387 M * Bertl (well, at least not without extensive kernel support)
1314052439 M * _are_ Bertl: I know only the IPMI-variant, there it works as a serial terminal, it is just an additional serial port the system provides.
1314052482 M * Bertl yeah, maybe I'm wrong ...
1314052505 M * _are_ Bertl: however, I have no real experience with the AMT-version of this stuff. It claims to be OS-agnostic, I only investigated it a bit further as my laptop should have one of these units. However, no success so far and not willing to reboot more than 1/day with my production laptop.
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