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1313728062 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1313728067 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1313748357 M * SwenTjuln hi all
1313748377 M * SwenTjuln i've trouble starting centos6 with sysv init style
1313748428 M * SwenTjuln i get this error: http://paste.linux-vserver.org/20559
1313748483 M * SwenTjuln oh, and vserver-info output: http://paste.linux-vserver.org/20560
1313748618 M * SwenTjuln it starts OK with 'plain' init style, but it seems like sysv is behaving beter within vserver
1313751510 J * kir1 ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru
1313751745 M * SwenTjuln SOLVED: it was a clean chroot, and there wasn't any services installed yes
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1313753226 M * SwenTjuln *yet*
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1313755855 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1313755859 M * Bertl morning folks!
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1313757144 M * hijacker afternoon
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1313772634 M * m_ueberall Hi there. :)  What is the most elegant way to prevent the vserver from accessing the real /dev/tty1? The debian based vservers display their startup/shutdown messages in the terminal I issued the "vserver vserverX startup|stop"; the mageia based vservers however send the shutdown messages to /dev/tty1 (this does not apply to the startup messages, though).
1313772780 M * Bertl first, to answer the question, simply do not provide it to the guest
1313772807 M * Bertl i.e. the guest can only access devices actually 'given' to it, i.e. where device nodes and/or mappings exist
1313772859 M * Bertl but actually there is more to that than this for different distros, because some of them even insist on ahving a specific tty available
1313772913 M * Bertl for magei (and mandriva/mandrake guests) I usually clean up the sysv script a little
1313772917 M * Bertl *mageia
1313772925 M * m_ueberall I will try this, thanks -- just looked it up and the debian minimal system did not create /vservers/vserverX/dev/tty1
1313772965 M * Bertl yes, mageia is quite new, as you probably know, and the build script (or the post install scripts to be precise) do not really exist yet
1313773000 M * Bertl is your host system mageia as well?
1313773025 M * m_ueberall yes
1313773060 M * Bertl then I'd suggest you add the updates-testing repository, if not already done so, and pull the new kernel and util-vserver with urpmi
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1313773089 M * Bertl I'm lazy and it needs some testing/etc to get them into updates, so that didn't happen yet :)
1313773128 M * m_ueberall I did this. Unfortunately, kernel-vserver-devel-2.6.38.7-2.mga-1-1.mga1 would not boot, so I still use kernel-vserver-2.6.38.7-2.mga-1-1.mga1 (compiled this myself applying a network related patch)
1313773171 M * m_ueberall sorry, substitute the first w/ 2.6.38.8
1313773176 M * Bertl (i.e. you should have 2.6.38.8-vserver and util-vserver-0.30.216-0.pre2982.2
1313773206 M * m_ueberall util-vserver 0.30.216-0.pre2982.2, yes
1313773217 M * Bertl so 2.6.38.8 doesn't boot for you? or just the vserver kernel?
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1313773233 M * m_ueberall Just the vserver version.
1313773248 M * m_ueberall Didn't have time to look into it, looks like pivot_root fails.
1313773251 M * Bertl interesting, do you get a kernel trace or similar?
1313773312 M * m_ueberall Interestingly, the above kernel only got pulled for x86_64, not i586.
1313773424 M * m_ueberall I'll rebuild it for i586 myself (testing the /dev/tty1 removal) and see whether the same problem turns up. The main desktop will be rebooted once I replace the RAID disks (this will take some days).
1313773531 M * Bertl it is in any case advised to build your own kernel
1313773562 M * Bertl i.e. the distro kernels are just to get started quickly
1313773866 J * ensc|w ~ensc@www.sigma-chemnitz.de
1313774125 M * m_ueberall Interesting -- I removed /vservers/vserverX/dev/tty*, and yet, the virtual machine's "chvt --userwait 1" forces the host to switch from /dev/tty8 (X session) to /dev/tty1 -- are there other mappings beside the /vservers/vserverX/dev/ directory?
1313774187 M * Bertl no, but it probably uses the default tty or console, which shouldn't be given to a guest either
1313774212 M * Bertl the best approach is to copy the cleaned up /dev from one of your debian guests into the mageia one
1313774575 M * m_ueberall Did that, got the "Did not found file descriptor which references the console" ("Konnte keinen Dateideskriptor finden, der auf die Konsole verweist"). No shutdown messages any more. What puzzles me is that the startup messages are displayed quite nicely and both startup/shutdown functions are identical.
1313774629 M * Bertl yeah, as I said, a little cleanup is required
1313774640 M * m_ueberall This solution is good enough for the two mageia vservers (build servers for i586, x86_64, respectively), because I practically removed all services for these.
1313774688 M * Bertl I can upload a cleaned up version in 10 minutes or so if that helps (nbusy right now)
1313774722 M * m_ueberall It's not urgent, but thank you very much. If you do, I'll test them... ;)
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1313779581 M * Bertl m_ueberall: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/MAGEIA/delta-mageia-guest.diff
1313779606 M * Bertl that and you absically remove every service but cron and syslog (and those you actually want)
1313780155 M * m_ueberall got it, thx a lot.
1313780463 M * m_ueberall works like a charm! :D
1313780496 M * m_ueberall (in conjunction w/ the clean /dev subtree from the debian vserver)
1313782987 M * Bertl yeah, you can get a cleaned up /dev/ with the skeleton build method if there is need
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