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1313583030 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1313583035 M * Bertl morning folks!
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1313591082 J * AndrewLee ~andrew@n201.enc.hlc.edu.tw
1313592045 M * Mr_Smoke Bertl: hi :)
1313592056 M * Bertl hey
1313592065 M * Mr_Smoke Not willing to troll here, but tell me something about LXC:
1313592083 M * Mr_Smoke how do you see the future of VServer w/r/t LXC development ?
1313592095 M * Bertl it's the mainline isolation technology and we use whatever is useable from there
1313592119 M * Mr_Smoke I'm told they have nice interface management/isolation (ie routing, filtering etc at guest level)
1313592120 M * Bertl so at some point in the future, Linux-VServer will be reduced to util-vserver and no kernel patch will be required
1313592126 M * Mr_Smoke sweet
1313592140 M * Bertl note that you can use all LXC features with Linux-VServer as well
1313592159 M * Mr_Smoke LXC is less feature-rich than VS at the moment, right ?
1313592168 M * daniel_hozac otherwise we would already have no patch :
1313592169 M * daniel_hozac )
1313592196 M * Mr_Smoke True ;)
1313592207 M * Mr_Smoke What's this about their being able to route/filter in guest then ?
1313592213 M * Mr_Smoke is this not re-usable in VS ?
1313592220 M * daniel_hozac it is.
1313592228 M * daniel_hozac and there are several people who do use it.
1313592240 M * Mr_Smoke Oh ? I must have missed that entirely then
1313592268 M * Mr_Smoke So I take it that's another namespace thing ?
1313592275 M * Bertl correct
1313592282 M * Mr_Smoke right.
1313592301 M * Mr_Smoke I'll keep that in mind for next time, which might not be anytime soon anyway :)
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1313593716 M * Alex[fob] is there somewhere documentation available for the network namespaces?
1313593738 M * Bertl http://lxc.sourceforge.net/index.php/about/kernel-namespaces/network/
1313593833 M * Alex[fob] and there is support in unil-vserver for that?
1313593916 M * daniel_hozac to create it? yes. but you have to set it up
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1313594566 M * Alex[fob] daniel_hozac: are there anywhere hints? as far as I know I have to create /etc/vservers/*/spaces/net?
1313594865 M * daniel_hozac there have been some mailing list threads.
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1313597599 M * Mr_Smoke hm
1313597614 M * Mr_Smoke the upstart issue is only with ubuntu or does it affect debian too 
1313597615 M * Mr_Smoke ?
1313597625 M * Mr_Smoke I've never set up a debian guest and I'm considering it right now
1313597646 M * Bertl not sure there even is an upstart for debian
1313597661 M * Mr_Smoke OH good then.
1313597678 M * Bertl but I might be completely wrong, as I do not use debian guests anymore
1313597687 M * Mr_Smoke What do you use, out of curiosit ?
1313597689 M * Mr_Smoke +y
1313597733 M * Bertl mostly mandriva and mageia guests, some fedora for testing, gentoo too
1313597765 M * Bertl every now and then I build a debian guest, just to test that it still works
1313597793 M * Mr_Smoke I'd never heard of mageia
1313597794 M * Bertl but as I use the command line on the wiki, it will be an old/stable system
1313597825 M * Bertl I presume there are more distros you never heard of :)
1313597827 J * Piet ~Piet__@659AADPDZ.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net
1313597830 M * Mr_Smoke Most probably :)
1313597850 M * Mr_Smoke Oh its a mandriva fork then
1313597860 M * Mr_Smoke reminds me of my first mandrakelinux heh
1313597894 M * Bertl yep, the 'free' flavor, after the developers lost their jobs at mandriva, they decided to fork
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1313598326 M * Bertl never used debian much, but I considered it a good choice mostly because of the quick start with Linux-VServer and the well maintained packages ... nowadays debian is too political/religious to be good
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1313598545 M * Mr_Smoke Agreed
1313598563 M * Mr_Smoke Thing is, I'm looking at stuff right now for which there is no easy way to install outside of a deb pkg
1313598569 M * Mr_Smoke (namely openxchange)
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1313598817 M * Bertl the web site says Debian, SuSE RHEL, Centos
1313598828 M * Bertl *SuSE, RHEL
1313599117 M * Bertl nap attack ... bbl
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1313606478 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1313606497 M * Bertl back now ...
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