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1312856108 M * Bertl off to bed now .. have a good one everyone!
1312856116 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1312874295 J * jamieson ~jamieson@71.11.175.78
1312874377 M * jamieson hi I know that an IP that grabs a port inside a vserver can potentially conflict with one on the host and vice-versa, but if a vserver binds, say, port 1000 on 0.0.0.0 and then another vserver tries to bind the same port later, will they conflict? can a vserver really grab all available interfaces like that?
1312874394 M * jamieson or is this only a problem versus the host itself?
1312874416 M * daniel_hozac only the host is a problem
1312874424 M * jamieson awesome thanks daniel_hozac !!
1312874430 M * daniel_hozac or another guest to which you have assigned the same address.
1312874441 M * jamieson ah didn't even realize that was possible, good point
1312874476 M * jamieson actually that's very interesting if you wanted to sandbox different services on same ip. good thought
1312874506 M * daniel_hozac better way to do that is usually private addresses and NAT.
1312874531 M * jamieson isn't that more expensive (processing-wise)?
1312874539 M * jamieson (probably incremental extra cost, though)
1312874586 M * daniel_hozac if NAT pushes you over the edge of your capabilities, you should look over your hardware and enter the 21st century :)
1312874592 M * jamieson hahah ;-)
1312874597 M * jamieson good point.
1312874710 M * jamieson but sometimes things can surprise you... i wrote a service few years ago that proxy-cached things based on md5sum. couldn't figure out why it was superfast on my home debian box and not customer's centos box. like i was getting 4x the performance, same hardware. customer was running 32 bit centos... that made a huge difference with md5sum.
1312874777 M * jamieson customer had originally felt that running 32bit was 'faster' (more memory efficient, if less than 4gb, but not 'faster' -- lose all the processor optimizations even if pointers etc are shorter)
1312874827 M * jamieson anyway. you're right. nat would be the way to go! what about iptunnels, any recommended ways to handle it without doing nat (all vservers getting real ips)
1312874836 M * jamieson right now i'm only firewalling the host itself
1312874849 M * jamieson leaving vservers open... but then i have to make a tool
1312874857 M * jamieson err
1312874860 M * jamieson i meant iptables ;-)
1312874863 M * jamieson wow must be tired
1312874991 M * daniel_hozac i have various scripts depending on the requirements to handle iptables.
1312875054 M * jamieson looks like that's how i'm going to do it too. sign
1312875055 M * jamieson sigh
1312875068 M * jamieson thanks for all your help daniel_hozac , have a great nightr!
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1312879720 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1312879725 M * Bertl morning folks!
1312880163 M * josef_ morning Bertl ;)
1312883603 M * jamieson morning Bertl !
1312884242 M * hijacker afternoon
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1312917955 M * cary Can anyone help me mount an lvm volume to a vserver?
1312917998 M * daniel_hozac what's the problem?
1312918022 J * hijacker_ ~hijacker@cable-84-43-136-96.mnet.bg
1312918051 M * cary I'm just not sure how to go about it is all.  How do we get host disks to appear in the device available to the guest?
1312918068 J * Prottoz ~exwuriit@189-041-197-002.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br
1312918097 M * cary I didn't see anything in the docs about it....although I very well might have overlooked it.
1312918099 M * daniel_hozac vnamespace -e <guest> mount /path/to/device /vservers/<guest>/path
1312918147 M * cary where /vservers/guest/path is the mountpoint?  
1312918159 M * cary correct?
1312918164 M * daniel_hozac yes.
1312918187 M * cary Cheers Daniel_hozac
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1312920287 M * Bertl off for now ... bbl
1312920292 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
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1312924254 J * clopez ~clopez@63.227.117.91.static.mundo-r.com
1312924271 M * clopez hello
1312924340 M * clopez i have a question about vserver and ppp... is possible to get the pppd daemon work inside an vserver guest? I want to stablish a ptpp connection from one of my vserver guests with an internet host
1312928005 M * clopez i get ioctl(SIOCSIFDSTADDR): Cannot assign requested address
1312928052 M * clopez I've given it SYS_ADMIN, SYS_TTY_CONFIG, NET_ADMIN and NET_RAW and set the hide_netif flag
1312928055 M * clopez but still no go
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1312934203 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1312934206 M * Bertl back now ...
1312934237 M * Bertl clopez: you need to use network namespaces for ppp to work
1312934255 M * Bertl (unless you terminate the ppp connection on the host and just use the IP for the guest)
1312934279 M * clopez i ended configuring the pptp link on the host and natting from the guest with iptables
1312934293 M * Bertl yep, that works fine
1312934308 M * clopez how is the network namespaces thing?
1312934362 M * Bertl it is a mainline feature which isn't fully supported by util-vserver yet, but it basically gives you a separate network stack on recent kernels
1312934367 M * cehteh can you do persistent ppp interfaces like tun/tap?
1312934380 M * Bertl not that I know of
1312934392 M * cehteh that would make it easy