1312156839 P * WMP Konversation terminated! 1312158072 J * WMP ~oftc@auburn.sored.pl 1312158076 M * WMP hello 1312158092 M * WMP http://wklej.org/id/570601 1312158097 M * WMP what is wrong? 1312158191 M * WMP ok, i know 1312158194 P * WMP Konversation terminated! 1312160964 J * fisted ~fisted@p50883A26.dip.t-dialin.net 1312163348 Q * SkyNet2000 Quit: Leaving 1312164428 J * derjohn_foo ~aj@p4FFD1DB9.dip.t-dialin.net 1312164772 Q * aj__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1312164782 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1312164788 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@p4FFD1DB9.dip.t-dialin.net 1312165074 Q * hparker Quit: Quit 1312166074 Q * derjohn_foo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1312166092 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1312169333 Q * fisted Remote host closed the connection 1312169670 J * fisted ~fisted@p50883A26.dip.t-dialin.net 1312172811 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! 1312172816 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1312173236 J * derjohn_mob aj@88.128.215.91 1312173269 J * derjohn_foo aj@88.128.215.91 1312176534 Q * derjohn_foo Quit: Verlassend 1312178614 J * ncopa ~ncopa@3.203.202.84.customer.cdi.no 1312181761 Q * arekm Quit: leaving 1312182291 J * arekm ~arekm@ixion.pld-linux.org 1312182358 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1312184995 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@213.238.45.2 1312186873 Q * josef_ Remote host closed the connection 1312189011 J * josef_ ~josef@gw-gbg.ilait.se 1312190914 J * disposable disposable@shell2.vps.websupport.sk 1312193482 P * kir Leaving. 1312194234 Q * hijacker Remote host closed the connection 1312194477 J * hijacker ~hijacker@213.91.163.5 1312202199 Q * fisted Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1312202230 J * fisted ~fisted@p50885060.dip.t-dialin.net 1312202497 J * tommason ~tom@flood.burkesys.com 1312204488 M * tommason Is there any libvirt support? I saw some older mailing list threads that said there wasn't but I wasn't sure if that has changed 1312205167 M * tommason the main feature that is important for me is a vnc for each guest. 1312205493 M * yang Bertl_zZ: what are the rsync flags that I could use for backing up the guests ? 1312205815 M * yang I guess "rsync -av --numeric-ids --progress --partial --exclude" should do ? 1312206069 M * Romster might want -l to preserve symlinks. 1312206110 M * yang ok 1312206130 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1312206135 M * Bertl morning folks! 1312206158 M * yang morning 1312206214 M * Bertl tommason: what do you mean with vnc for each guest? 1312206248 M * daniel_hozac yang: -HS are always good... 1312206332 M * Bertl yang: usually I use -axXHPSD --numeric-ids for local transfers 1312206394 M * yang ok 1312206764 M * yang Bertl: all directories placed to remote dir are being tagged with "todays" date.... 1312206778 M * yang can i preserve tags from earlier date ? 1312206791 M * daniel_hozac they'll be fixed. 1312206805 M * daniel_hozac rsync fixes dirtimes last as they would change anyway. 1312206830 M * yang ok 1312207048 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1312207287 M * tommason Bertl: pretty much a vnc connection available on the host for each guest. An example for xen is here - http://www.virtuatopia.com/index.php/Configuring_a_VNC_based_Graphical_Console_for_a_Xen_Paravirtualized_domainU_Guest 1312207316 M * tommason with libvirt you can virt-install with the --vnc option 1312207354 M * Bertl tommason: you are aware that Linux-VServer is a contain/isolation solution not a hardware virtualization? 1312207361 M * trippeh Pretty sure the vnc stuff needs some kind of vga emulation thats not available for container-based virtualization. 1312207378 M * trippeh Even with libvirt. 1312207403 M * Bertl tommason: but you can run an x11vnc server inside each guest and conntext to that 1312207419 M * Bertl *connect 1312207436 M * tommason right but would that be available while going through the install process for the guest os 1312207459 M * Bertl no, as the guest install is not compareable to a 'normal' linux install 1312207472 M * Bertl again, no hardware is involved 1312207498 M * Bertl if you want full/hardware virtualization, you probably should look at kvm or xen 1312207736 M * Bertl for example, in Linux-VServer you install a guest with a command like this: 1312207794 M * Bertl vserver vserver1 build -m debootstrap --context 42 -- -d lenny -m http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian 1312207821 M * Bertl which fetches all the required packages and installs them into a chroot like environment 1312207843 M * tommason that should be fine for what I need. 1312207877 M * Bertl in many cases it is, just it's isolation at the OS level, i.e. right below the kernel, not hardware or system virtualization 1312207905 M * Bertl so no virtual interfaces, controllers, harddisks, vga, etc 1312207951 M * tommason does it require anything special on the guest os? 1312207978 M * Bertl not really, usually you want to reduce the startup process by removing hardware related setup part 1312207993 M * Bertl which is done for most distributions by the post install scripts 1312209090 Q * hijacker Quit: Leaving 1312209126 J * hijacker ~hijacker@213.91.163.5 1312209837 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1312210976 Q * ncopa Quit: Leaving 1312213305 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:beae:c5ff:fe01:b647 1312214914 J * jfst ~jfs@ip-83-134-234-31.dsl.scarlet.be 1312215390 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:195:fb1:e8a0:42b7 1312218584 Q * eyck Remote host closed the connection 1312219753 Q * tty234 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1312220127 J * tty234 telex@anapnea.net 1312220474 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: would it be hard to add a umask like wmask (to enable warnings on a per guest basis) like this: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/ExperimentalT/delta-wmask-feat01.diff 1312220600 M * daniel_hozac should be trivial. 1312220680 M * Bertl okay, should I bump the VCI revision or add a bit for that? or both? 1312220829 M * daniel_hozac hmm, i don't think we need that. 1312220852 M * daniel_hozac since it's a brand new call. 1312220861 M * Bertl okay 1312221322 Q * yang Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1312222940 J * yang yang@boneym.linuxshell.org 1312222971 N * yang Guest4429 1312223547 Q * hparker Remote host closed the connection 1312223652 J * arthus ~arthus@reverse-232.fdn.fr 1312223654 Q * arthus 1312223963 J * jfstr ~jfs@ip-83-134-216-108.dsl.scarlet.be 1312224050 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:beae:c5ff:fe01:b647 1312224383 Q * jfst Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1312226127 J * manana ~mayday090@178.162.120.195 1312227798 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: just FYI re 2.6.32, i've been maintaining a tree that has several of our recent improvements, though based on RHEL6. 1312227809 M * daniel_hozac for a few months. 1312227882 J * arekm_ ~arekm@ixion.pld-linux.org 1312227882 Q * arekm Read error: Connection reset by peer 1312227892 M * daniel_hozac primarily because i don't have as much time as i'd like anymore, and upgrading userspace to stay up to date with the kernel on a regular basis is outside the realm of possibility. 1312228032 M * daniel_hozac but i still vote for stabilizing on 3.0 (or 3.1 depending on the timeline). 1312228110 M * daniel_hozac (i'll add that on the mailing list too) 1312228430 M * Bertl okay, I guess we will do something about 2.6.32 anyway 1312230721 M * MooingLemur \o/ 1312230838 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1312230933 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@d179099.adsl.hansenet.de 1312232429 J * eyck ~eyck@77.79.198.63 1312233525 J * cuba33ci_ ~cuba33ci@111-240-165-1.dynamic.hinet.net 1312233879 Q * cuba33ci Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1312233890 N * cuba33ci_ cuba33ci 1312237319 Q * fisted Quit: leaving 1312237534 Q * hparker Remote host closed the connection 1312237856 Q * jfstr Quit: Quitte 1312237900 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:beae:c5ff:fe01:b647 1312238223 Q * ircuser-1 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1312238774 J * ircuser-1 ~ircuser-1@025.205-93-216-nokia-dsl.dynamic.surewest.net 1312239534 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection 1312239618 Q * hparker Remote host closed the connection 1312240355 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:beae:c5ff:fe01:b647 1312241280 Q * click Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1312241307 Q * manana Remote host closed the connection 1312243022 Q * daniel_hozac Remote host closed the connection