1309397182 J * misc-- ~misc@202.171.160.4
1309397329 M * misc-- hi all... I have a centos host with a debian lenny guest in it. On the debian machine, I need to install python2.6-dev, which requires libc, of which that requires kernel 2.6.26 or later... but the host runs only 2.6.22
1309397356 Q * ghislain Read error: Connection reset by peer
1309397363 M * misc-- so it says to upgrae kernel before installing glibc, which can be done via apt-get install -t lenny ilnux-image-2.6 but not sure if I can do that from within a guest, can I?
1309399550 M * Bertl_oO well, you probably can, but it won't help with the kernel
1309399579 M * Bertl_oO i.e. the host kernel will not change and as the guest uses that host kernel, the interface will still be 2.6.22
1309399891 M * Bertl_oO off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1309399896 N * Bertl_oO Bertl_zZ
1309401264 M * misc-- ahhh ok fair enough
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1309425687 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1309425691 M * Bertl morning folks!
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1309432232 M * Bertl off for now .. bbl
1309432237 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1309433348 J * fleischergesell ~fleischer@dslb-088-076-055-095.pools.arcor-ip.net
1309433364 M * fleischergesell How can I use vmount to unmount somehing in a guest?
1309435192 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:beae:c5ff:fe01:b647
1309436132 J * areq ~areq@q.areq.eu.org
1309445317 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu
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1309453210 J * gypsymauro ~colorioma@84.18.151.77
1309453211 M * gypsymauro hi
1309453222 M * gypsymauro how can I delete a vserver guest?
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1309453479 M * MooingLemur gypsymauro: nothing more complicated than stopping the guest, removing the config tree for that guest in /etc/vservers, and removing the guest directory itself out of /vservers
1309453506 M * Bertl_oO # vserver --help | grep delete delete      ... remove a vserver
1309453531 M * MooingLemur even simpler I suppose :)
1309453551 M * gypsymauro Bertl_oO: it doesn't works it says something about .pkg file that is missing
1309453568 M * Bertl_oO util-vserver version?
1309453574 M * gypsymauro MooingLemur: in fact, just wondering if there was sometihng weird about /proc and /dev
1309453615 M * gypsymauro 0.30.216-pre2864-2+b1
1309453619 M * gypsymauro debian squeeze
1309453628 M * Bertl_oO get a newer version then :)
1309453636 M * gypsymauro eh :) I done with rm
1309453650 M * gypsymauro tanx btw :) see u next time!
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1309463654 M * nicholi Bertl_oO: in terms of cpu scheduling... cgroups only supports the "soft" scheduling, and you use the token bucket mechanism for "hard" scheduling?
1309463761 M * Bertl_oO it was used for that, but it isn't present in recent kernel/patches
1309463787 M * Bertl_oO we 'assumed' that mainline would get that right within a year, but we were wrong ...
1309463820 M * nicholi right, you said something was last kernel that supported using it...i'm still on that
1309463847 M * Bertl_oO then you shouldn't have cgroups as option, I guess :)
1309463910 M * Bertl_oO the token bucket extension served for soft and hard limits as well as a feature called time skipping
1309463923 M * Bertl_oO which basically distributed idle time when nothing was running
1309464207 J * fleischergesell ~fleischer@dslb-088-076-055-095.pools.arcor-ip.net
1309464437 M * nicholi oh right, the second bucket was for idle time
1309464458 M * nicholi well same bucket i guess, different fill
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1309468616 M * Bertl_oO off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
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1309468629 N * Bertl_oO Bertl_zZ
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1309473894 J * brucelee hello234@75-147-136-225-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net
1309473898 M * brucelee hey guys
1309473918 M * brucelee im trying to mount an nfs on the guest, so i did it on the host
1309473932 M * brucelee i added the mount in the guest's dir
1309473943 M * brucelee so i can access it from the guest, but when i go into the dir, and do ls
1309473945 M * brucelee nothing shows up
1309473968 M * brucelee anyone know what i did wrong/didnt do?
1309474116 M * Guy- brucelee: you mounted the directory in the host's namespace
1309474129 M * Guy- brucelee: it's not part of the guest's mount namespace
1309474147 M * Guy- brucelee: a quick'n'dirty workaround is to restart the guest (it inherits a copy of the host mount namespace on startup)
1309474220 M * brucelee ahh 
1309474225 M * brucelee without restarting, is there any way to do it?
1309474249 M * brucelee thanks for telling me this, ive literally researched for hours why this isnt working
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1309475326 M * Guy- yes, you can use vnamespace to do the mount in the guest namespace
1309475379 M * Guy- I think there is also a vmount, you might try that (I'm not sure it works in this case, though)
1309475454 M * brucelee ah ok
1309475455 M * brucelee thanks
1309475562 M * brucelee hey
1309475570 M * brucelee any idea where i can read up on how to use that vmount, or vnamespace
1309475570 M * brucelee :P
1309475579 M * brucelee im looking at the documentation, guides/howtos
1309475581 M * Guy- their command line help, for a start
1309475582 M * brucelee just wondering what section
1309475587 M * brucelee ok
1309475694 M * Guy- brucelee: try this: http://linux-vserver.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions#I_want_to_.28re.29mount_a_partition_in_a_running_guest_..._but_the_guest_has_no_rights_.28capability.29_to_.28re.29mount.3F
1309475998 M * brucelee thanks Guy-
1309476003 M * Guy- my pleasure
1309476012 M * brucelee how long have you been using vserver?
1309476038 M * Guy- since november 2006
1309476057 M * brucelee nice
1309476423 M * brucelee im reading the help on vnamespace 
1309476424 N * ensc Guest515
1309476428 M * brucelee trying to understand that command
1309476433 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p5DF2F23B.dip.t-dialin.net
1309476442 M * brucelee vnamespace -e builder chroot /var/lib/vservers/<guest>/ mount -o remount...
1309476442 M * brucelee etc
1309476449 M * brucelee whats builder and chroot?
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