1307578073 M * puck Damn, I'm still getting sync taking a long time with ext3. I wonder if this box has issues. 1307578251 M * Bertl usually you don't want to run sync unless you configure your system to keep caching low 1307578277 M * Bertl but note that kernels 2.6.24-2.6.35 are quite bad regarding I/O 1307578290 M * Bertl i.e. io performance is really really bad there 1307578412 M * puck yeah. the thing is when a vserver stops it runs shutdown which calls sync. 1307578427 M * Bertl depends on how it is configured :) 1307578438 M * puck oh? Can that be stopped? 1307578456 M * Bertl well, util-vserver doesn't call sync 1307578458 M * puck I just tried an explict sync command on the host before running stop, didn't help. 1307578502 M * Bertl i.e. change whatever calls sync inside the guest, and the issue will be gone 1307578533 M * puck util-vserver appears to be telling the host to go to runlevel 6 and S20sendsigs does it. I've also seen it run "shutdown" which makes a system call to sync. 1307578542 M * puck I'll hack S20sendsigs for now and see if that stops it 1307578563 M * Bertl first, util-vserver can run different init styles 1307578581 M * Bertl and in sysv init style, there won't be an init inside the guest 1307578613 M * Bertl i.e. the selected scripts will be run, and those do not need to call/do the sync 1307578625 M * puck right 1307578679 M * puck I've just changed /bin/sync to a symlink to /bin/true 1307578688 M * Bertl but if the sync issue is a real problem for you, you might (besides updating to the latest kernel :) consider adding a kernel check to ignore sync from inside a guest 1307578692 A * puck re-runs his vserver cluster build and tries it out. 1307578717 M * puck a kernel check sounds like an interesting approach 1307578736 M * puck I just need to pop out and clean out some rabbit hutches. bbs 1307578794 M * Bertl there are macros in the Linux-VServer patch which allow to easily check for inside/outside a guest context 1307582501 Q * ShupeR Remote host closed the connection 1307591702 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! 1307591706 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1307593716 J * sannes ~ace@cm-84.209.81.224.getinternet.no 1307594996 Q * FireEgl Remote host closed the connection 1307595807 J * FireEgl FireEgl@2001:470:e056:1:426:708e:a572:abed 1307599676 Q * quasisane Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1307600399 Q * julius Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1307600603 J * julius ~julius@217.20.127.15 1307600997 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1307601199 Q * harobed Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1307601426 J * quasisane ~sanep@c-76-24-80-97.hsd1.nh.comcast.net 1307602071 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@213.238.45.2 1307602562 Q * nkukard Quit: Leaving 1307602956 Q * sung Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1307603267 J * sung ~sung@doot.realfuckingnews.com 1307603273 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-188-103-063-229.pools.arcor-ip.net 1307606968 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@adsl2.aqueos.com 1307607988 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1307609106 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-188-103-063-229.pools.arcor-ip.net 1307610696 Q * josef_ Remote host closed the connection 1307610714 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1307610855 J * josef_ ~josef@gw-gbg.ilait.se 1307611368 Q * mnemoc Quit: Lost terminal 1307611400 J * mnemoc ~amery@shell.opensde.net 1307612333 P * kir Leaving. 1307615761 J * VirMan 5055e72b@ircip3.mibbit.com 1307615768 M * VirMan Hello :) 1307615792 M * VirMan i got an issue with cflags file and VIRT_MEM setting 1307615861 M * VirMan Kernel: 2.6.35-vs2.3.0.36.32-gentoo util-vserver: 0.30.216-pre2955; May 26 2011, 12:59:52 1307615902 M * VirMan i'm unable to set user visible ram limit. 1307615936 M * VirMan if he/she enters free -m or top all 32 gb are avilable 1307616066 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1307616416 M * daniel_hozac did you set the limit correctly? 1307616474 M * VirMan well 1307616487 M * VirMan let me check 1307616543 M * VirMan file /etc/vaservers/vsxxx/rlimits/rss 1307616556 M * VirMan and it contains 128000 1307616562 M * VirMan it should give 512m 1307616682 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-188-103-063-229.pools.arcor-ip.net 1307616716 M * VirMan old server works but it has old kernel 1307617010 Q * petzsch Read error: Connection reset by peer 1307617061 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-188-103-063-229.pools.arcor-ip.net 1307617622 M * VirMan also i tried setting cgroup limit with /etc/vservers/vsxxxx/cgroup/memory.memsw.limit_in_bytes and write there 256M 1307617634 M * VirMan i compiled with those options 1307617658 M * VirMan but still it won't show limited memory 1307618425 M * daniel_hozac you might want to try a recent kernel then. 1307618477 M * VirMan i begged for ebuild on gentoo bugzilla but they are waiting for stable release... no newer ebuilds :/ 1307618637 M * VirMan i don't know if manually building kernel is in my capabilities.. 1307618642 M * VirMan i'll read about that 1307619970 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1307622529 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1307622536 M * Bertl morning folks! 1307624758 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-188-103-063-229.pools.arcor-ip.net 1307625417 M * VirMan :] 1307627316 Q * FireEgl Quit: Leaving... 1307629889 J * thierryp ~thierry@zanzibar.inria.fr 1307629910 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1307630392 Q * thierryp Remote host closed the connection 1307630406 J * thierryp ~thierry@zanzibar.inria.fr 1307631111 Q * thierryp Remote host closed the connection 1307632214 J * FireEgl FireEgl@2001:470:e056:1:e99b:bd53:1ef9:e84b 1307635631 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:250f:1c42:6971:cccb 1307635666 M * Bertl nap attack ... bbl 1307635681 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1307637299 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1307638331 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@d170155.adsl.hansenet.de 1307638936 Q * imcsk8 Remote host closed the connection 1307639169 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@148.229.1.11 1307647403 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1307647408 M * Bertl back now ... 1307648790 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:beae:c5ff:fe01:b647 1307650249 Q * sannes Remote host closed the connection 1307651297 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1307651547 M * nicholi are runlevels supposed to work in a guest? i'm trying to just get sshd to start by default, but its not 1307651650 M * Bertl runlevels as in telling init to switch to a runlevel or what exactly do you mean? 1307651730 M * nicholi having sshd start in the guest os on runlevels 2345 1307651764 M * Bertl same as on real hardware 1307651792 M * Bertl i.e. you need to create the links in the runlevel directories (with chkconfig or whatever you like) 1307651831 M * nicholi yeah thats what i'd hoped...i ran update-rc.d ssh defaults 1307651835 A * nicholi checks to see if the links are really there 1307651901 M * nicholi i see them all there... 1307651919 M * Bertl so, what's the problem? 1307651983 M * nicholi ssh isn't starting when the vserver is started 1307652000 M * Bertl there we go ... is the host running sshd as well? 1307652041 M * Bertl and if so, is the host sshd restricted to host IPs and/or the guest using a different port? 1307652143 M * nicholi the host is restricted to listening to its own ip/port in sshd_config 1307652153 M * nicholi and the guest has its own ip 1307652202 M * nicholi you can't have ssh running in both? 1307652223 M * nicholi i mean ssh works fine in the guest when i manually start the service... 1307652227 M * Bertl yes, but sshd exits when the ip/port is bound 1307652245 M * Bertl so the problem is really that it isn't started on guest startup then? 1307652249 M * nicholi yes 1307652253 M * Bertl guest distro is? 1307652258 M * nicholi ubuntu lucid 1307652265 M * nicholi same as host actually 1307652269 M * Bertl ah, configured for upstart? 1307652298 M * nicholi not yet 1307652300 M * Bertl because ubuntu doesn't handle sysv properly as it seems 1307652316 M * Bertl i.e. the scripts are executed, but nothing really happens 1307652326 M * nicholi ah hmmm 1307652577 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@d170155.adsl.hansenet.de 1307652632 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1307654301 M * nicholi to try and debug upstart... what could i use to just dump the console output to a file? instead of a tty device 1307654310 M * daniel_hozac you can't 1307654313 M * daniel_hozac upstart won't let you 1307654315 M * nicholi grawwr 1307654338 M * Bertl it's a feature I presume :) 1307654431 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1307654826 J * hijacker_ ~hijacker@87-126-142-51.btc-net.bg 1307654842 Q * hijacker_ 1307655001 M * nicholi this makes it impossible... 1307655072 M * Bertl but you can dedicate a tty/vt to upstart 1307655097 M * Bertl i.e. this should work and give you some output if you have access to the linux consoles 1307655572 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1307655580 Q * ghislain Quit: Leaving. 1307655627 M * nicholi i do sort of...through a kvm switch, but the client sucks and i can't scroll up 1307655644 M * nicholi meaning, i can't really see anything :( 1307655843 M * Bertl of course, you might simply modify upstart 1307655890 M * Bertl at least that is what I would do, if I would use ubuntu 1307655908 M * nicholi modify it how ? 1307656154 M * Bertl remove the console specific commands or handle them more gracefully 1307656193 M * Bertl i.e. the problem is not that you cannot feed upstart a file, the problem is that it first tries some console commands and if that fails, simply exits 1307656249 Q * VirMan Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client 1307656311 M * nicholi yeah...but i don't know what fails because i can't even properly debug the console output 1307656501 M * Bertl as you are testing in a guest, printf is your friend 1307656524 M * Bertl (on a real system, that would be a little harder) 1307656620 Q * ryker Quit: Leaving. 1307656786 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@d170155.adsl.hansenet.de 1307657554 Q * hparker Quit: Quit 1307658116 M * nicholi gah im' stupid, ok i got the debug working for upstart... 1307658183 M * nicholi ssh is supposed to start on filesystem, but i don't see any event for it 1307658238 M * nicholi its going virtual-filesystem, local-filesystem, starting, started... and nothing seems to be happening in started 1307658256 M * nicholi is something supposed to jump out as "failed to start" ? 1307658273 M * Bertl no idea, this is upstart specific 1307658278 M * nicholi glarg 1307658283 A * nicholi reads some more 1307658309 M * nicholi the vserver init is supposed to be the first thing though correct ? 1307658325 M * Bertl vserver init? 1307658348 M * nicholi i mean the vserver.conf stuff in /etc/init 1307658353 M * Bertl if you configured the guest to use upstart, util-vserver will simply start 'upstart' in the guest 1307658367 M * Bertl whatever happens then is upstart specific 1307658420 M * Bertl from the util-vserver PoV it's just create guest, start upstart as init, done 1307658423 M * nicholi how do i know if the guest is even configured for upstart ? 1307658436 M * Bertl because you configured it for that?! 1307658451 M * nicholi not sure if i did, i just let util-vserver do all the work :p 1307658467 M * Bertl vserver init?http://linux-vserver.org/Upstart_issues 1307658475 M * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/Upstart_issues 1307658524 M * nicholi oh yeah...i've followed all of that 1307658553 M * Bertl so the 'plain' init style is what configures it for upstart 1307658565 M * Bertl i.e. util-vserver will do nothing but start the guest init 1307658589 M * Bertl what happens then is fully under upstart control 1307658595 M * nicholi mmkay 1307660361 M * nicholi doh, it was some other init stuff re-added after an apt-get upgrade 1307661610 M * Bertl yeah, debian based distros are fun :) 1307661673 M * nicholi what would you recommend as the simplest distro to run as guest ? 1307662079 N * ensc Guest4075 1307662089 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p5DF2F34F.dip.t-dialin.net 1307662190 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection 1307662499 Q * Guest4075 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1307663112 M * Bertl really depends on what your preferences and use cases are 1307663138 M * Bertl a debian guest is quickly installed, even via network, if you like debian 1307663209 M * Bertl I personally prefer Mageia for host and guest, daniel_hozac probably Fedora, still others here are more than happy with Gentoo and I'm sure other distros are fine as well 1307663259 M * nicholi i was planning to check out gentoo, never heard of mageia 1307663259 M * Bertl in general it all depends on personal preference and how much work you want to spend on customizing/configuring the setup