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1306554881 M * Bertl_oO off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1306554887 N * Bertl_oO Bertl_zZ
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1306579064 J * bernif bernif@77-223-221-138.kielce.hypnet.pl
1306579145 M * bernif Hello,
1306579177 M * bernif I'd like to kindly ask if it would'nt be a problem
1306579215 M * bernif How vserver would deal in an environment with multiple subnets
1306579259 M * bernif typically - normally routing to or from other subnets is done by a router
1306579293 M * bernif How this software would deal in multi interface and multi gateway environment
1306579404 M * bernif For example and tighteninng purposes lets say that there are 2 eth's all on different public subnets
1306579453 M * bernif I mean more but 2 is enough for the case
1306579493 M * bernif I really don't now is this the right place to ask
1306579553 M * julius shouldn't be a problem - linux-vserver utilizes the linux kernel routing - which should be able to cope with pretty much any scenario
1306579558 M * bernif I know that every guest is in /32 but it can be set up to lets say /29
1306579570 M * bernif hmm
1306579592 M * julius guest interfaces are simply additional ip addresses bound to your regular interfaces
1306579616 M * julius on which you can use routing policies and iptables :)
1306579666 M * bernif But from all I've read all network is host based, I allso now that setting up multi gateway routing on one host is considdered as an error or mistake
1306579720 M * julius afaik - linux routing policies can handle multiple uplinks/gateways quite well
1306579755 M * julius I'm not an expert and haven't had to rely on those yet tho
1306579779 M * bernif hmm
1306579801 M * julius http://lartc.org/ <- dunno if this might answer some questions
1306579908 M * bernif I know that already but hardware routing in my case isn't a problem
1306579918 M * bernif cisco gear is all over the place
1306579937 M * bernif the core of my question is
1306580002 M * bernif is it possible to just input something like:"route add default gateway xxx "[and here]"dev ethx"
1306580011 M * bernif and will it work as desired?
1306580074 M * bernif or should i look into lartc? I wouldn't want to revoke hardware routing as I'd like to run multiple mashines after a while
1306580084 M * bernif machines*
1306580162 M * bernif and the problem does not lay in one kernel layer - cause obviously this is the fastest way routing can be done between two guests. 
1306580189 M * bernif it is more in guest to guest on different machines 
1306580212 M * julius I'm sorry - you should probably wait for someone more experienced to answer *afk*
1306580222 M * bernif hmm
1306580270 M * bernif how would You run that kind of environment then
1306580281 M * bernif ?
1306580430 M * julius I don't really get what you're trying to implement...
1306580516 M * bernif I'd like to run guest as www servers. Each with public /28 ip. 
1306580580 M * bernif When the utilisation will rise i'd like to add just more servers and copy guests to them.
1306580611 M * bernif Each /28 pool have to be connected through separate interface
1306580639 M * bernif and thats all
1306580641 M * bernif i gues
1306580686 M * bernif any other thing isn't a problem - just the right network setup
1306580764 J * manana ~mayday090@nat049-252-205-109.tvoe.tv
1306581236 M * bernif ok got my research. gentoo is wonderfull as it only can be
1306581290 M * bernif after setting up guests as described above 
1306581436 M * bernif two interfaces to one guest: one RFC1918 ip, one public ip
1306581451 M * daniel_hozac why?
1306581460 M * bernif host populated with kernel multi gateway routing 
1306581504 M * bernif some guests depending on subnet are not reacheable from outside - do not reply remote ping
1306581511 M * bernif why what?
1306581563 M * daniel_hozac why would you have a private IP?
1306581586 M * bernif mgnt purposes 
1306581592 M * bernif management
1306581643 M * bernif no other service than apache or whatever other service will be bond to public ip - security purposes i gues
1306581707 M * bernif every change in content will be made through internal network
1306581769 M * bernif those aren;t commercial purpose machines... so no need for anyone from outside to touch www contents
1306581937 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1306581942 M * Bertl morning folks!
1306581946 M * bernif morning
1306582451 M * bernif ls /etc/conf.d/newnet/net.eth8
1306582462 M * bernif syr
1306582463 M * bernif syr
1306583050 M * Bertl confused?
1306583073 M * bernif yeap - run into trouble 
1306583085 M * bernif now i gues system based
1306583130 M * bernif gentoo is refusing, to add static routes when i input them through ../net file
1306583159 M * bernif i think that is the source of all of my problems
1306583177 M * Bertl well, then you need to have a chat with the gentoo folks!
1306583216 M * bernif installed the newest availeable sys with baselayout2 and openrc - and gues what - no sign of those statements after reboot 
1306583236 M * bernif just read a post on their forum regarding similar problems
1306583255 M * bernif NOW i'm confused
1306583285 M * bernif writing bash scripts to take care of those will post on finish
1306583593 M * bernif yeap! probably the worst way to do it but works.
1306583650 M * bernif The problem in setting up networking on, between, to and from other host was caused by gentoo mess
1306583667 M * bernif i meant guest
1306583711 M * Bertl networking between host and guests on the same host is local (by default), so nothing special to set up there
1306583712 M * bernif host based routing does the job in this scenario
1306583770 M * bernif that's why i came here - I couldn't understand what was going on
1306583804 M * bernif i looked at ip addr output, ip route output and didn't see
1306583814 M * bernif anything suspicious
1306583896 M * Bertl I don't really understand your setup, but as I said, by default, guests use a subset of host IPs and host IPs are local to the host by default, so communication between them happens on the host, via 'lo'
1306583927 M * Bertl no routing is involved there, so no routing needs to be configured for that to work
1306583964 M * Bertl to have separate guests use different gateways to the outside OTOH, you need to simply setup multiple gateway routing
1306584008 M * Bertl i.e. add a route for each gateway to a separate routing table and use the 'ip rule ..' to configure source based routing
1306584016 M * bernif The funniest part was that I've configured it that way
1306584042 M * bernif so i just couldn't understand what was going on
1306584066 M * bernif did it the hard way and it works
1306584095 M * bernif dunno if it is a dependency script gentoo speicfic problem
1306584118 M * bernif checking local source to investigate
1306584176 M * bernif the cause
1306584256 M * Bertl okay, so I presume everything working fine now ... good
1306584266 M * Bertl off to grab some groceries ... bbl
1306584271 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1306584348 M * bernif nope - after checking config, setting it up like it should be and a pleasent reboot networking is down
1306584397 M * bernif I belive this is gentoo specific bug - as I am not the only one in this situation
1306584458 M * bernif no error, warning, message is produced - so others won;t even know what hit them if changes are applyed in production
1306584534 M * bernif the most odd thing is that it sometimes works. When I know that it should or shoudn't work at all. This will be my homework i guess.
1306584554 M * bernif Of from work. Thanks for the input!
1306584575 M * bernif *afk*
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1306624629 M * ser how can i hide a guest filesystem from being visible by 'df' in host system?
1306625294 N * ensc Guest2590
1306625304 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p5DF2D3BF.dip.t-dialin.net
1306625533 M * Bertl_oO ser: mount it only in the guest namespace
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1306626272 M * ser Bertl_oO: you mean i need to create a namespace before i run a guest?
1306626322 M * daniel_hozac no, it's created automatically unless you explicitly turn it off.
1306626493 M * ser sorry i do not get it - i need to execute "vnamespace mount /a" ?
1306626524 M * daniel_hozac no.
1306626529 M * ser :)
1306626536 M * daniel_hozac you don't have to do anything.
1306626547 M * daniel_hozac just put your mounts in the guest's fstab.
1306626685 M * ser ok i can see, i can run cryptsetup without mounting
1306626688 M * ser thanks
1306626927 J * Piet_ ~Piet__@1RDAAADTB.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net