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1304308751 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1304308756 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1304329379 J * timo ~timo@kl-5-170.natpat.fh-kl.de
1304329387 N * timo MrTV
1304329391 M * MrTV hi all
1304329487 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:beae:c5ff:fe01:b647
1304329487 M * MrTV is there a designated upgrade path for a vserver from lenny to squeeze?
1304329625 M * daniel_hozac that'd be a Debian question... it being a guest should be irrelevant.
1304330073 M * MrTV hmm I thought I would find some people here who have done upgrades within vservers and share some experiences with them 
1304330465 M * MrTV no debian admin around here? 
1304331391 M * hijacker MrTV, apt-get is your friend;-)
1304331452 M * MrTV well, actually it isn't this time. :(
1304331506 M * MrTV but apt-get is probably not to be blamed directly
1304331545 M * hijacker indeed
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1304331567 M * hijacker what has gone wrong?
1304331787 M * MrTV I've done the upgrade as the it is said in the offical release notes. and I've done this some times before. so I am not completely new. the minimal upgrade  a.k.a. apt-get upgrade some things wrong, e.g.
1304331793 M * MrTV ...
1304331793 M * MrTV Setting up sysvinit (2.88dsf-13.1) ...
1304331793 M * MrTV sysvinit: creating /dev/initctl
1304331793 M * MrTV init: timeout opening/writing control channel /dev/initctl
1304331793 M * MrTV ...
1304331871 M * MrTV then initscripts are being placed again , which is not a big problem. just update-rc.d -f to remove, and its ok. 
1304331928 M * MrTV then the package makedev, it tries to create a big bunch of device nodes 
1304332006 M * MrTV I was getting "Operation not permitted" errors. which is not also not a big problem. 
1304332106 M * MrTV I have compared the contents of the dev directory from a pure lenny vserver and the now minimally upgraded to squeeze vserver 
1304332127 M * hijacker well those you mention are just fine inside a guest, you should not worry 
1304332141 M * hijacker what else/?
1304332173 M * MrTV I haven't had the heart to do the dist-upgrade yet
1304332252 M * MrTV do I need to / can I delete /dev/initctl?
1304332397 M * MrTV i have 5 more entries in /dev
1304332425 M * MrTV and some have changed 
1304332487 Q * bsingh Read error: Operation timed out
1304332490 M * MrTV e.g. /dev/fd now symlinks to /proc/self/fd  (absolute path) whereas before it was relative fd -> ../proc/self/fd
1304332528 M * MrTV don't know if that hurts
1304332547 M * hijacker don't delete
1304332551 M * hijacker just leave it as it is
1304332646 M * MrTV but I would asume it isn't needed. I have another vserver which is already running squeeze and that one hasn't got a initctl in /dev
1304333241 J * bsingh ~balbir@122.172.33.242
1304333256 M * MrTV brb
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1304334390 J * MrTV ~timo@kl-5-060.natpat.fh-kl.de
1304334408 M * MrTV re
1304334415 M * hijacker wb
1304334486 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1304334492 M * Bertl morning folks!
1304336391 M * hijacker afternoon
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1304341359 J * ard ~ard@gw-tweakb16.kwaak.net
1304341364 M * ard meeh...
1304341386 A * ard thought that http://paste.linux-vserver.org/19435 was part of the standard util-vserver
1304341911 M * Bertl maybe it will be at some point
1304342175 M * ard Heh... well when I was talking with daniel_hozac about it, he said the initialization needs a major overhaul...
1304342206 M * ard but I thought he added this until that time
1304342220 M * ard But it seems it was just in my local svn workspace :-(
1304342262 M * ard I need to fix my explanations about how to do vservers with seperate interfaces :-(
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1304347031 M * Bertl nap attack ... bbl
1304347042 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1304357857 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1304357860 M * Bertl back now ..
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1304368376 M * radix has anyone gotten ubuntu guests (running upstart) working to a really satisfying level? I've managed to get it to the point where it at least starts services on boot, but managing services at runtime usually results in completely blocking my "start" and "stop" commands
1304368579 M * Bertl blocking sounds like a bug in upstart, try with strace -f to find out more where it blocks (besides enabling upstart debug logs, assumed they exist now :)
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