1300148263 J * ktwilight__ ~keliew@91.176.114.112
1300148383 Q * ktwilight_ Read error: Operation timed out
1300154568 M * fLoo Bertl still there ?
1300154575 M * Bertl yup
1300154586 M * fLoo i just received a mail from mr. staeck
1300154590 M * fLoo founder of iquer.net
1300154627 M * fLoo pointing out, that i should clearly state in my latest article that iquer.net only deals with hosting / databases and not with the sourcecode of the website of bildungsforum2011.de
1300154638 M * fLoo mail written at 02:41 :D
1300154657 M * fLoo holy crap :D
1300154679 M * Bertl :)
1300154784 N * ensc Guest675
1300154794 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p5DF2DE6E.dip.t-dialin.net
1300155192 Q * Guest675 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1300155613 J * djpressbox ~djpressbo@c-71-197-6-189.hsd1.va.comcast.net
1300155748 M * djpressbox so, i'm new to this, was following these instructions::  http://linux-vserver.org/Networking_vserver_guests,   my goal is have an eth0 that gets an internal network dhcp address, and i want to create dummy interfaces for my vservers that are either dhcp'd or static... when i follow this page of modprobe dummy, then add the dummy interface, the dummy shows having a static ip... but then eth0 stop's dhcping and ping google yields 
1300155748 M * djpressbox no host found... what in the work am i doing wrong??
1300155783 M * djpressbox *world am i doing wrong
1300155805 M * Bertl well, the main problem is a misconception on how networking usually works on Linux-VServer 
1300155832 M * Bertl Linux-VServer uses (by default) network isolation, which is quite different from virtual network stacks
1300155868 M * Bertl for example, you do not assign IPs to guests via DHCP (from the host)
1300155932 M * djpressbox ok, and i'm fine with doing static addresses... but is it possible to have the vservers show up on the network so that they'll have access to the outside and internal world ?
1300155944 M * Bertl so, first step is to setup your host (ignoring any guests) in such way that networking just works
1300155964 M * djpressbox ok - and that's back to working as just getting an ip from my router
1300155980 M * Bertl which is not even remotely related to Linux-VServer itself
1300155984 M * djpressbox so my interfaces and modules files are back to their original self
1300155995 M * djpressbox and are working 100%
1300156008 M * Bertl good, so ping www.google.com, works as expected, yes?
1300156019 M * djpressbox mhmm
1300156054 M * Bertl if not, then see if ping 74.125.230.84 works
1300156070 M * Bertl if so, you need to adjust your resolver configuration
1300156089 M * Bertl if that doesn't work either, your network setup is bad
1300156108 M * Bertl (still, none of this is Linux-VServer related :)
1300156125 M * djpressbox pinging both google.com and that ip address are working just fine
1300156135 M * Bertl excellent
1300156150 M * Bertl now I presume you have a guest prepared you want to work with
1300156186 M * Bertl the main question is, do you want that guest to be reachable via the internet or 'just' to be able to reach the internet from within that guest?
1300156246 M * djpressbox i don't have a guest prepared, but i can build one right now -- and i'd like to have the guess reachable from the internet
1300156282 M * Bertl good, so do you have a separate IP address for that guest, or do you want to redirect some ports from the host-ip to the guest?
1300156366 M * fLoo Bertl: if he is behind a nat-router he can forward the ports using the nat-router which is more comfortable than using iptables on the host (just an advice)
1300156396 M * Bertl depends on how much control djpressbox has over the router, no?
1300156402 M * fLoo correct
1300156436 M * djpressbox well the server only gets 1 dhcp'd address, and there's only 1 network interface, so i was hoping I could virtualize an interface and have it have a separate IP address
1300156478 M * Bertl that you can do, but it is a lot more complicated to set up
1300156517 M * Bertl the simpler way is to request another DHCP address (with a different client identifier) or forward certain ports to local addresses used for the guest(s)
1300156560 M * Bertl (the main problem here being that DHCP is based on MAC addresses and way below IP, while Linux-VServer use ip isolation)
1300156735 M * djpressbox does that make sense?
1300156747 M * Bertl what?
1300156979 M * djpressbox ello
1300157121 M * djpressbox i have 100% control over the router
1300157142 M * Bertl good, then simply use a static IP assigned for each guest
1300157166 M * Bertl i.e. let's say the host has 192.168.0.42/24
1300157190 M * djpressbox but i guess i should redefine the requirements 
1300157194 M * Bertl then make the first guest 192.168.0.43/24, the second 192.168.0.44/24 ...
1300157249 M * djpressbox internally i need to be able to have vserver1 bind to its own unique ip, vserver2 the same, vserver3 the same, all running separate instances of apache, so when i go vserver1 in a browser it display's vserver1's instance of apache, and etc for the other 2
1300157267 M * djpressbox bertl -- that'd be fine
1300157272 M * Bertl sounds fine to me
1300157285 M * djpressbox ok - so how do i do this?
1300157318 M * Bertl make sure that any service you have running _on_the_host_ is restricted to the host only IP (192.168.0.42)
1300157342 M * djpressbox ok - is there something i need to  do to insure that ?
1300157356 M * Bertl well, check with lsof -ni
1300157372 M * Bertl anything binding to *: is a potential problem
1300157392 M * Bertl (i.e. needs to be restricted to 192.168.0.42)
1300157420 M * djpressbox lol so every service
1300157432 M * Bertl usually you move all host services to a guest, and leave only administrative functions on the host, like sshd for example
1300157459 M * Bertl which can be easily restricted with a simple config option
1300157503 M * Bertl this 'special' guest (it's not really special) can be configure to use the host assigned IP for its services
1300157537 M * Bertl but you can as well change the configuration for each service to only bind to the host IP 
1300157675 M * djpressbox ok
1300158054 M * djpressbox ok sshd and apache2 on the host are now bound to the host static ip
1300158078 M * Bertl okay, build a guest, e.g. directly from the network like this:
1300158139 M * Bertl vserver vserver1 build -m debootstrap --context 43 --interface eth0:192.168.0.43/24 -- -d lenny -m http://ftp.debian.org/debian
1300158175 M * Bertl (adjust the IP if yours differs)
1300158307 M * djpressbox that ip will actually work :P
1300159251 M * djpressbox i'm having internet troubles -- i'll be back up in 5 - thank you so much for your help so far!!
1300159360 M * Bertl you're welcome!
1300159541 M * djpressbox hey, network test
1300159788 M * Bertl seems to work :)
1300159922 M * djpressbox just got the network running 10x faster... so this creation should go a lot faster
1300159929 M * djpressbox sorry for the difficulties 
1300160582 M * djpressbox ok -- vserver1 is a go
1300160606 M * Bertl good, start it with 'vserver vserver1 start'
1300160631 M * Bertl then check (on the host) with 'ping -I 192.168.0.43 www.google.com'
1300160799 M * djpressbox that's successful 
1300160817 M * Bertl good, now enter the guest with 'vserver vserver1 enter'
1300160828 M * Bertl and try there with 'ping www.google.com'
1300160852 M * djpressbox success
1300160881 M * Bertl so, that means that your guest is already able to access the internet, and it can be reached on the LAN with the assigned IP
1300160908 M * Bertl most likely only minimal services are installed inside the guest, but you can add more with apt-get
1300160982 M * djpressbox so do i not need to mess with my interfaces file or iptables ?
1300161004 M * Bertl the current config should work fine for your setup
1300161030 M * Bertl just try it out, install sshd/apache from inside the guest (i.e. via enter) then restart the service or the entire guest
1300161054 M * Bertl you should be able to reach those services via 192.168.0.43 locally
1300161069 M * Bertl i.e. either from this or any other host in the same lan
1300161474 M * djpressbox ok -- apache question
1300161508 M * djpressbox "apache2: could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName
1300161535 M * djpressbox sounds like i need to change the hostname of the vserver1 ?
1300161593 M * Bertl you can specify a host name at build time, or simply add some to the guest config
1300161622 M * Bertl you also might want to provide the proper forward and reverse lookups for that IP (e.g. via /etc/hosts) for host and guest
1300163874 M * djpressbox sweetness i got this working! thank you so much for your help!
1300163932 M * Bertl again, you're welcome!
1300163968 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1300163975 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1300164792 J * zbyniu_ ~zbyniu@ip-62.181.188.13.static.crowley.pl
1300164792 Q * zbyniu Read error: Connection reset by peer
1300167197 Q * djpressbox Remote host closed the connection
1300169022 J * hijacker_ ~hijacker@213.91.163.5
1300169022 Q * hijacker Read error: Connection reset by peer
1300171675 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@d046157.adsl.hansenet.de
1300172471 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1300172642 J * ncopa ~ncopa@3.203.202.84.customer.cdi.no
1300173413 J * mfv ~mfv@host8-44-static.23-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it
1300173974 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@213.238.45.2
1300174597 M * arekm Bertl_zZ: .38 final, updated patch would be nice ;))
1300174842 M * arekm updated manually meanwhile
1300175176 Q * arekm Quit: leaving
1300175275 J * arekm arekm@carme.pld-linux.org
1300175361 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@adsl2.aqueos.com
1300175489 N * ensc Guest708
1300175499 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p5DF2DE6E.dip.t-dialin.net
1300175657 Q * Guest708 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1300176352 J * petzsch ~markus@p57B663E8.dip.t-dialin.net
1300176455 J * edit2 ~blagoj@193.104.33.130
1300176468 M * edit2 Hello.
1300176481 M * edit2 How can I disable SWAP usage with cgroup?
1300176524 M * daniel_hozac set the memory+swap limit to the same as the memory limit?
1300176630 M * edit2 Thanks. It is working.
1300176742 M * edit2 How much percentage of a CPU will a VPS need to run 10-15 not so visited web sites + sendmail/dovecot and webmin.... The CPU is Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           X3450  @ 2.67GHz
1300176797 M * edit2 On the previous configuration I had these values in my "schedue" file and everything was working fine.
1300176806 M * edit2 12
1300176806 M * edit2 100
1300176806 M * edit2 0
1300176806 M * edit2 10
1300176806 M * edit2 400
1300176806 M * edit2 0
1300176819 M * edit2 But now that files do not work any more.
1300176878 M * daniel_hozac so give it 12% again.
1300176968 M * edit2 Ok, thanks.
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1300178745 J * swenTjuln ~kvirc@77.111.2.36
1300179456 J * _nono_ ~gomes@licencieux.ircam.fr
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1300179927 J * ncopa ~ncopa@3.203.202.84.customer.cdi.no
1300180423 M * Mr_Smoke wow, util-vserver is updated quite often these days :)
1300180479 M * Mr_Smoke daniel_hozac: apart from inside the sources, is there a changelog visible somewhere ?
1300180490 M * daniel_hozac http://git.linux-vserver.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=util-vserver.git;a=shortlog
1300180563 M * Mr_Smoke Thnx :)
1300180895 M * Mr_Smoke Testing the 2.6.38-rc8 kernel with 2.3.0.37-rc6 patch as of now
1300180922 M * daniel_hozac you're not testing 2.6.38?
1300180930 M * daniel_hozac it was released.
1300180934 M * Mr_Smoke Huh
1300180942 M * Mr_Smoke Dammit
1300180945 M * Mr_Smoke Just yesterday then
1300180948 M * Mr_Smoke I missed it :)
1300180955 M * Mr_Smoke Oh, no just today
1300180959 M * Mr_Smoke Heh
1300180970 M * Mr_Smoke Let's do it
1300180994 M * Mr_Smoke Then I can report on whether the rc6 patch will apply 
1300181106 M * Mr_Smoke A few rejected hunks
1300181112 M * Mr_Smoke What's the best way to report them ?
1300181389 M * Mr_Smoke send patches for the patch ?
1300181425 M * daniel_hozac leave a new patch for Bertl, i supppose.
1300181513 M * Mr_Smoke Can do.
1300181533 M * Mr_Smoke Can I use a pastebin for that ?
1300181699 M * daniel_hozac i don't think the entire patch fits in most pastebins, since it's over 700 KiB.
1300181763 M * Mr_Smoke True.
1300181770 J * TheSeer ~theseer@border.office.ballyhoo.de
1300181778 M * Mr_Smoke I'll post it somewhere then
1300181790 M * TheSeer daniel_hozac: ping?
1300181807 M * daniel_hozac pong
1300181808 M * Mr_Smoke Shh, not so loud, Bertl's asleep :)
1300181812 M * TheSeer :P
1300181832 M * TheSeer daniel_hozac: is your latest el6 kernel supposed to work with centos 5.5?
1300181862 M * TheSeer for you placed it into the 5 repo...
1300181887 M * daniel_hozac that's the idea.
1300181889 M * Mr_Smoke Here, patch for 2.6.38 ready, I hope
1300181914 M * TheSeer daniel_hozac: okay, anything i have to do to switch from "vanilla" centos 5.5 to your kernel?
1300181925 M * TheSeer For it kernel panics when booting
1300182007 M * TheSeer [root@core5 ~]# uname -r => 2.6.18-194.32.1.el5
1300182014 M * TheSeer that kernel works ;)
1300182112 M * daniel_hozac i just finished pushing a newer version that should work better.
1300182125 M * TheSeer k.. going to give it a try :)
1300182179 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc12-aztw24-2-0-cust146.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com
1300182248 M * Mr_Smoke Bertl_zZ: for when you're back, my attempt at producing a patch for 2.6.38 is there : http://www.lecoyote.org/vserver/patch-2.6.38-vs2.3.0.37-rc6.diff
1300182286 M * Mr_Smoke Others are welcome to check it out too
1300182372 M * TheSeer daniel_hozac: nope..
1300182382 M * TheSeer Kernel panic
1300182388 M * daniel_hozac do you have a log?
1300182400 M * TheSeer switchroot: mount failed. No such file or directory
1300182522 M * BenG Mr_Smoke, will give that a try
1300182545 M * BenG there were a few fails for me when I just tried the rc8 patch
1300182549 M * Mr_Smoke Yes
1300182554 M * Mr_Smoke I corrected them, best I could
1300182557 M * TheSeer daniel_hozac: how would i log it? 
1300182563 M * Mr_Smoke There were minor glitches
1300182625 M * daniel_hozac TheSeer: serial console
1300182639 M * BenG it patches fine now for me Mr_Smoke 
1300182651 M * TheSeer the server is in a data center
1300182659 M * TheSeer i only do have ipmi access to it
1300182666 M * daniel_hozac ipmitool sol activate
1300182679 M * Mr_Smoke BenG: good to hear :)
1300182877 M * BenG compiling it now
1300182966 M * Mr_Smoke Same here
1300183001 M * BenG hehe, hows your config and what you building with? (as it's now a race :)
1300183009 J * _WildPIkachu_ ~nkukard@41-133-112-179.dsl.mweb.co.za
1300183324 M * Mr_Smoke Hm
1300183333 M * Mr_Smoke real    2m54.061s
1300183334 M * Mr_Smoke user    9m55.309s
1300183334 M * Mr_Smoke sys     0m49.163s
1300183341 M * Mr_Smoke That's a Core2Q with 8G RAM
1300183367 M * Mr_Smoke My config is for a monolithic kernel
1300183371 M * BenG didn't time mine I'm afriad
1300183382 M * BenG still building
1300183393 M * BenG building almost every module
1300183411 M * BenG 2X dual core Xeons
1300183435 Q * nkukard_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1300183481 M * BenG usually takes about 12-20mins for me
1300183521 M * Mr_Smoke Oo
1300183529 M * Mr_Smoke how many -j do you use ?
1300183534 M * BenG 5
1300183548 M * Mr_Smoke They're not HT then ?
1300183565 M * BenG no, 4 real cores between 2 processor I think
1300183570 M * Mr_Smoke 'k
1300183591 M * Mr_Smoke I make my kernel as lean as I can , that explains
1300183624 M * Mr_Smoke How insecure NET_RAW exactly is, btw ?
1300183807 M * BenG the quote Bertl_zZ "those are insecure and basically render your system open to all kinds of evil attacks from inside the guest ...."
1300183833 M * BenG where 'those'= NET_RAW and MKNOD
1300184030 M * Mr_Smoke Thought as muc
1300184033 M * Mr_Smoke much*
1300184050 M * Mr_Smoke Basically depends how much you trust the guest
1300184062 M * Mr_Smoke (and/or who is running it)
1300184069 M * Mr_Smoke Well, I'm now running 2.6.38
1300184075 M * Mr_Smoke We'll see how that goes
1300185220 M * BenG compiled and packaged this end, will upload to repositories
1300185366 M * Mr_Smoke packaged ? for who ?
1300185388 M * BenG linux-image-vserver-2.6.38-beng is now available on repo.psand.net
1300185398 M * Mr_Smoke oh ok
1300185447 M * BenG amd64 only
1300186214 M * daniel_hozac TheSeer: have a log for me?
1300186446 M * TheSeer daniel_hozac: i fail to get anything in the SOC console
1300186468 M * daniel_hozac did you boot with console=ttyS0,9600n1?
1300186468 M * TheSeer just booted the box in the stock kernel and have to check in a sec
1300186476 M * TheSeer yep
1300186485 M * TheSeer i'm missing something obviously
1300186508 M * TheSeer the stupid java kvm viewer doesn't even work on my fedora box so i had to find a windows vm where it works
1300186572 J * petzsch ~markus@p57B663E8.dip.t-dialin.net
1300186788 J * Sylvain ~chatzilla@78.155.152.6
1300186801 M * daniel_hozac is it ttyS0?
1300186805 M * daniel_hozac you might want to make sure.
1300186855 M * Sylvain hi, I may need some hint to compile and use vserver on kernel 2.6.37 debian squeeze
1300186907 M * Sylvain I may have missed some step because  the kernel compiled and booted but the newverserver failed with
1300186928 M * Sylvain vc_set_sched(): Function not implemented
1300186940 M * Sylvain seems to be too old or somthing
1300186943 M * daniel_hozac yep.
1300186947 M * daniel_hozac upgrade your util-vserver.
1300186964 M * Sylvain simpler to type than to apt-get... ;-)
1300187016 M * Sylvain which version of util-veserver should match my kernel patched version ?
1300187033 M * Sylvain linux-image-2.6.37.2-vs2.3.0.37-rc3.2
1300187070 M * daniel_hozac go for the latest.
1300187071 M * Sylvain squeeze repos has : 0.30.216-pre2864-2+b1
1300187075 M * daniel_hozac 0.30.216-pre2945
1300187085 M * Sylvain the compiled one I've made :
1300187091 M * Sylvain      0.30.216-pre2945-1
1300187099 M * Sylvain ok same
1300187446 M * Sylvain now I'm locked with some interdepend package
1300187486 M * Sylvain util-vserver contain debian/rules
1300187502 M * Sylvain but the kernel was made from vanilla + vserver patch
1300187514 M * Sylvain may be some debian patches are missing
1300187526 Q * oliwel Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.15/20110303170601]
1300187550 M * Sylvain http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.37.2.tar.bz2
1300187552 M * Sylvain +
1300187568 M * Sylvain http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/patch-2.6.37.2-vs2.3.0.37-rc3.2.diff
1300187586 M * Sylvain nothing more...
1300187633 M * Sylvain mya I've missed some debian patches
1300187640 M * Sylvain  ?
1300187681 M * Mr_Smoke Why no use 2.6.38 ?
1300187781 M * Sylvain why not...
1300187799 M * Sylvain what improvement in it?
1300187829 M * Mr_Smoke Well the vserver patch is more recent
1300187875 M * TheSeer daniel_hozac: i fail at getting it... for whatever reason
1300187875 M * Sylvain and for network queue and ext4 improvment still embeded I guess ?
1300187885 M * Mr_Smoke No idea about that
1300187911 M * Sylvain humm, I need to dig
1300187933 M * Sylvain not uptodate doc like this one : 
1300187943 M * Sylvain http://www.kwu.hu/vserver.txt
1300187943 M * swenTjuln hi all!
1300187951 M * Sylvain swenTjuln: Hi
1300187963 M * swenTjuln Can I change  nflags to a running context?
1300187979 M * Mr_Smoke Yes
1300187984 M * swenTjuln to=of
1300187989 M * Mr_Smoke that's what nattribute is for :)
1300188020 M * swenTjuln Mr_Smoke: thank you!
1300188030 M * Mr_Smoke Sylvain: www.lecoyote.org/vserver/patch-2.6.38-vs2.3.0.37-rc6.diff
1300188040 M * Mr_Smoke Just apply that to vanilla 2.6.38 and voila :)
1300188069 M * daniel_hozac Sylvain: you don't need any other patches.
1300188071 M * daniel_hozac that's all you need.
1300188102 M * Mr_Smoke That, and a recent util-vserver :)
1300188113 M * Mr_Smoke Which Gentoo provides at almost no cost :D
1300188134 M * TheSeer daniel_hozac: from what i can see when it scrolls in the ipmi window is that is has issues with ext3 and undefined symbols?
1300188311 M * daniel_hozac try depmod -a 2.6.32-71.18.2.el6.vs2.3.0.36.29.6.9.x86_64
1300188315 M * daniel_hozac and remaking the initrd.
1300188325 M * Mr_Smoke Whoa.
1300188328 M * Mr_Smoke That a kernel name ?
1300188342 M * Mr_Smoke I'm sure there's a law against that :D
1300188458 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving.
1300188508 M * Mr_Smoke daniel_hozac: what's the process that "generates" a new ebuild for util-vserver ? do you get in touch with the maintainer at all ?
1300188523 M * daniel_hozac i have no idea who does the ebuilds anymore.
1300188540 M * daniel_hozac the people who used to are no longer involved from what i gather.
1300188543 M * Mr_Smoke Jeroen Roovers, apparently
1300188544 M * Mr_Smoke Ah.
1300188559 M * Mr_Smoke Sounds like something I could do, creating ebuilds is not that difficult
1300188582 M * Mr_Smoke (as if I had enough time though)
1300188608 M * daniel_hozac doesn't really take anything, replace the pre release number with a new one and you're done...
1300188614 M * Mr_Smoke There's a bug in there that's over a year old now
1300188617 M * daniel_hozac at least, that's what i do for CentOS.
1300188620 M * Mr_Smoke Yeah, I know
1300188667 M * Mr_Smoke Maybe I'll mail the guy
1300188708 M * daniel_hozac TheSeer: that worked for me anyway... i'll fix it in the build.
1300188731 M * BenG hey all, I've had this thing on my todo list for ages
1300188755 M * BenG we found that --move mounts didn't work in namespaces
1300188770 M * BenG and I said I'd contact upstream about it
1300188770 M * Mr_Smoke Benedikt Böhm is the one listed more often in the Changelog
1300188793 M * BenG the thing is, I don't know how to do that, anyone any clues?
1300188841 M * Mr_Smoke You basically are at upstream HQ right now :)
1300188883 M * daniel_hozac BenG: WORKSFORME.
1300188884 M * BenG It's kernel upstream I want
1300188898 M * daniel_hozac but, to report bugs, send an informative email to LKML.
1300188914 M * BenG daniel_hozac, really? do you recall the issue I had?
1300188921 M * BenG did it get fixed?
1300188929 M * daniel_hozac no, i tested it just now.
1300188938 M * BenG which kernel?
1300188948 M * daniel_hozac 2.6.32-71.18.2.el6.vs2.3.0.36.29.6.9.x86_64
1300188960 M * BenG 2.6.32! no way!
1300188966 M * daniel_hozac of course i tested the very simple case you just described.
1300188973 M * daniel_hozac if your actual test is more complex, then that may not work.
1300188984 M * BenG so what did you do to test?
1300189003 M * daniel_hozac created a namespace, did a mount, mount --move'd it.
1300189060 M * BenG okay, my thing was not being able to move a mount inside guest that was running with namespace enabled
1300189140 M * daniel_hozac so it's more likely to do with shared mounts.
1300189392 M * BenG these are mounts created by the guest
1300189398 M * BenG that are then moved
1300189466 M * daniel_hozac right
1300189505 M * BenG so you still think shared mounts is the issue?
1300189527 M * BenG because I'm not sure what you mean by that, or where I look to fix it 
1300189533 M * BenG :S
1300189534 M * daniel_hozac man mount
1300189538 M * daniel_hozac /shared
1300189610 M * BenG I'm not purposefully setting any of those on the mounts I make
1300189623 M * BenG does the vserver environment do something special in this regard?
1300189626 M * daniel_hozac util-vserver does.
1300189636 M * BenG ah
1300189680 Q * LuckyLuke Remote host closed the connection
1300189701 J * LuckyLuke ~luca@host65-83-static.228-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it
1300189808 M * BenG could you clue me up daniel_hozac ? I'd love to get this problem solved. Where to start digging?
1300189851 M * daniel_hozac fs/namespace.c
1300190061 M * TheSeer No module ehci-hcd found for kernel 2.6.32-71.18.2.el6.vs2.3.0.36.29.6.9.x86_64, aborting.
1300190071 M * TheSeer that's what i get when running mkinitrd
1300190086 M * daniel_hozac did you upgrade your mkinitrd to the one in the repo?
1300190131 M * TheSeer [root@core5 ~]# yum update mkinitrd
1300190134 M * TheSeer No Packages marked for Update
1300190148 M * TheSeer if there's something newer, it doesn't see it
1300190182 M * TheSeer [root@core5 ~]# rpm -qa |grep initrd
1300190182 M * TheSeer mkinitrd-5.1.19.6-61.el5_5.2.2dhz
1300190182 M * daniel_hozac do you have protectbase or something in yum?
1300190188 N * ensc Guest731
1300190194 M * TheSeer it's a vanilla centos 5.5
1300190197 M * BenG Mr_Smoke, kernel built with your patch looks to work fine
1300190198 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p5DF2B8FD.dip.t-dialin.net
1300190207 M * TheSeer all i did is adding your repo file so far
1300190222 M * Mr_Smoke BenG: yep, working fine here too
1300190226 M * Mr_Smoke for a couple hours :)
1300190232 M * daniel_hozac can you pastebin the output of mkinitrd -v?
1300190236 M * Mr_Smoke I'll give it a month or so
1300190245 M * Mr_Smoke since 2.6.38-rc4 gave up on me after about that amount of time
1300190247 M * daniel_hozac possibly bash -x mkinitrd...
1300190297 M * TheSeer http://fpaste.org/uO0v/
1300190491 M * daniel_hozac what's your /etc/modprobe.conf contain?
1300190510 Q * Guest731 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1300190521 M * TheSeer http://fpaste.org/USqs/
1300190567 M * daniel_hozac okay
1300190577 M * daniel_hozac if you don't need usb-storage to boot, you can comment that from there.
1300190584 M * daniel_hozac and the initrd will succeed.
1300190867 M * TheSeer okay, now it boots
1300190883 M * TheSeer and is back up
1300190924 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave
1300191092 M * swenTjuln is 2.6.38 now released?
1300191118 M * swenTjuln Latest Stable Kernel: is still 2.6.37.4 (kernel.org)
1300191176 M * daniel_hozac stable isn't latest.
1300191178 M * derjohn_mob swenTjuln, yes, it released but not the stable recommendation .... 
1300191182 M * daniel_hozac stable means x.y.z.w
1300191237 M * derjohn_mob BTW: the -rc8 patch does not apply cleanly to the release one. daniel_hozac did you alread fix the issues? (namei and nfs as far as I can see) 
1300191262 M * daniel_hozac no, i haven't looked at it.
1300191276 M * daniel_hozac Mr_Smoke did, IIUC.
1300191335 M * Mr_Smoke Yup
1300191359 M * Mr_Smoke www.lecoyote.org/vserver/patch-2.6.38-vs2.3.0.37-rc6.diff
1300191495 M * derjohn_mob Mr_Smoke, the .rej look trivial - just some lines shifted. Or did I overlook something ?
1300191504 M * swenTjuln oh...
1300191673 M * Mr_Smoke derjohn_mob: pretty much, yeah.
1300191697 M * Mr_Smoke One of the rej is caused by a goto label that changed a little, but nothing much worse than that
1300191862 N * ensc Guest736
1300191872 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p5DF2B8FD.dip.t-dialin.net
1300191886 J * petzsch ~markus@p57B663E8.dip.t-dialin.net
1300192030 Q * Guest736 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1300192056 M * derjohn_mob Mr_Smoke, so, you run rc6 on 2.6.38 non-rc currently ?
1300192096 M * Mr_Smoke Yep
1300192424 M * derjohn_mob on debian ? 
1300192437 M * Mr_Smoke Gentoo
1300192598 M * TheSeer okay, since the vserver-copy tool is in legacy utils, any recommended way to physically move a vserver from one maschine to another?
1300192622 M * daniel_hozac vserver ... build -m rsync
1300192766 M * TheSeer doh ;)
1300192821 M * derjohn_mob daniel_hozac, are there any reports about 2.6.38rc running on squeeze? With my last try I want able to start vservers contexts (but I had only 32bit contexts on an amd64 host). Are the tools on squeeze suitable for the current patch ?
1300192882 M * daniel_hozac i have absolutely no idea. i don't use Debian at all anymore.
1300192893 M * daniel_hozac it ate my machine, so i stay away from it now.
1300192984 M * Mr_Smoke It's obvious that Gentoo will take over the world anyway.
1300192986 M * Mr_Smoke Why resist :)
1300193026 M * daniel_hozac Gentoo is insane to run on any type of production system.
1300193050 M * Mr_Smoke ;)
1300193067 M * Mr_Smoke Let's just say that YMMV then
1300193269 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1300193273 M * Bertl morning folks!
1300193297 M * daniel_hozac morning Bertl
1300193344 M * Mr_Smoke Mo'in Bertl 
1300193364 M * Bertl ah, 2.6.38 is out and I missed te 'distro wars' :)
1300193370 M * Mr_Smoke ;)
1300193828 M * Mr_Smoke Bertl: is there a changelog for the experimental patch somewhere ?
1300194202 M * Bertl except for the source code, no
1300194231 M * Mr_Smoke Ok
1300195975 Q * edit2 Read error: Connection reset by peer
1300196156 N * ntrs_away ntrs
1300196870 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc12-aztw24-2-0-cust146.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com
1300196981 Q * micah Server closed connection
1300196983 J * micah ~micah@micah.riseup.net
1300197686 M * Guy- what's the easiest way of migrating /vservers to a different filesystem, preserving iunlink and immutable?
1300197697 M * Guy- I suppose I could script showattr/setattr, but is there a better way?
1300197736 M * daniel_hozac save-vsdata.sh does that, although it is meant for upgrades between kernels where the filesystem changed.
1300197749 M * daniel_hozac if you're migrating to the same filesystem, you can use the filesystem's dump utility.
1300197804 M * daniel_hozac (e.g. dumpe2fs, xfsdump)
1300197917 M * daniel_hozac well, dump
1300198111 N * ensc Guest745
1300198121 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p5DF2B8FD.dip.t-dialin.net
1300198280 Q * Guest745 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1300199333 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu
1300200140 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave
1300201588 M * Sylvain so, I managed to plug some vserver on debian squeeze + 2.6.37 + util-vserver 0.30.216-pre2945-1
1300201591 M * Sylvain but
1300201622 M * Sylvain restarting from scratch it revels than I' missed somthing 
1300201633 M * Bertl okay?
1300201639 M * Sylvain it was working before I reinstall the server
1300201653 M * Sylvain now I got :
1300201686 M * Sylvain  usr/lib/util-vserver/vserver-setup.functions: line 186: /etc/vservers/.defaults/context.next: No such file or directory
1300201723 M * Mr_Smoke Oo
1300201732 M * Sylvain it seems I used some package residual folder or somethig
1300201755 M * Bertl well, depending on what else is missing, this shouldn't be critical
1300201784 M * Sylvain effectively the util-vserver was good, I didnot reluib the package
1300201798 M * Bertl simply specifying a context at build time or adding that file to the defaults (with the proper value) would work
1300201811 M * Sylvain my question is which package should have created the requierd folder ?
1300201819 M * Bertl but I guess your package didn't run the required install scripts
1300201821 M * Mr_Smoke The file is not part of a package per se
1300201826 M * Mr_Smoke But the scripts should create it
1300201851 M * Bertl i.e. maybe simply rebooting the host will fix it ... debian has a strange way to handle scripts :)
1300201874 M * Sylvain it was created by some previous older package
1300201882 M * daniel_hozac the directory .defaults is missing?
1300201902 M * Sylvain yes
1300201910 M * Sylvain in /etc/vservers
1300201924 M * Sylvain only .distributions  and newvserver-vars
1300201961 M * Sylvain lol, it looks like windows behavior !
1300201999 M * Bertl newvserver-vars sounds dangerously like the vserver-debiantools :)
1300202014 M * Bertl if that is correct, I'd make sure to get rid of that package ASAP
1300202040 M * Bertl (otherwise it will eat your system, your pets and probably your whole family sooner or later :)
1300202043 M * Sylvain really ?
1300202074 M * Sylvain and what about the funny newvserver --many-options command line
1300202120 M * Mr_Smoke This does not belong to util-vserver
1300202128 M * Mr_Smoke Your whole family is next indeed.
1300202136 M * Sylvain yes but it uses the tools
1300202244 M * Sylvain so you are meaning that I can refactor my mkvserver.sh without newvserver's vserver-debiantools
1300202254 M * daniel_hozac of course.
1300202262 M * Sylvain :-)
1300202273 M * daniel_hozac you will also get the ability to build a number of other, non-Debian guests by doing so.
1300202306 M * Sylvain I gonna try
1300202315 M * Bertl and your family and pets will thank you :)
1300202355 M * Sylvain but before rebuiling the server from strach it was working I setuped a debian  guest
1300202401 M * Sylvain probably using a strange package coincidence
1300203597 Q * Chlorek Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1300203689 M * Sylvain my pets, right?
1300203690 M * Sylvain http://fpaste.org/d7km/
1300203697 M * Sylvain same error
1300203734 M * Sylvain usr/lib/util-vserver/vserver-setup.functions: line 186: /etc/vservers/.defaults/context.next: No such file or directory
1300203739 M * Bertl after doing what exactly?
1300203771 M * Sylvain fpaste.org above
1300203775 M * Bertl i.e. what did you do to fix the broken installation?
1300203786 M * Sylvain but not creating the  .defaults dir manualy
1300203808 M * Mr_Smoke How about re-running make install from the util-vserver source maybe ?
1300203816 M * Sylvain not enough :-(
1300203826 M * Bertl or remove all in /etc/vservers and uninstall/reinstall util-vserver
1300203853 M * Sylvain apt-get remove --purge  util-vserver-sysv util-vserver-core util-vserver-build util-vserver
1300203886 M * Sylvain no more etc/vservers
1300203893 M * Mr_Smoke "Good"
1300203914 M * daniel_hozac i wouldn't be surprised if it's a bug in the debian package.
1300203924 M * daniel_hozac it's gotten very little testing.
1300203989 M * Sylvain Setting up util-vserver (0.30.216-pre2945-1) ...
1300203991 M * Sylvain ln: creating symbolic link `/etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase': No such file or directory
1300203993 M * Sylvain ln: creating symbolic link `/etc/vservers/.defaults/run.rev': No such file or directory
1300203994 M * Sylvain ln: creating symbolic link `/etc/vservers/.defaults/cachebase': No such file or directory
1300203996 M * Sylvain Setting up util-vserver-build (0.30.216-pre2945-1) ...
1300203997 M * Sylvain ln: creating symbolic link `/etc/vservers/.defaults/apps/vunify/hash/00': No such file or directory
1300204002 M * Mr_Smoke That's clear enough
1300204023 M * Sylvain of course
1300204038 M * Sylvain but "who" should create the folder tree ?
1300204083 M * daniel_hozac should be included in the package.
1300204114 M * Sylvain I greped the source, but not recursivly, right...
1300204180 M * _Shiva__ i wonder it that'll get fixed by Debian... after all: it's not a security bug.. ;-) and non-functional -> WONTFIX ;-)
1300204196 M * _Shiva__ *splat*
1300204214 M * daniel_hozac try adding base @CONFDIR@/.defaults/ to contrib/manifest.dat.pathsubst and rebuilding.
1300204390 J * Chlorek ~nobody@chlorek.com
1300204641 Q * TheSeer Quit: Client exiting
1300205292 M * Sylvain daniel_hozac: nope, where should the folder creation araise in the .deb and to be more precise in wich .deb?
1300205319 Q * ncopa Quit: Leaving
1300205530 Q * Chlorek Quit: Reconnecting
1300205530 J * Chlorek chlorek@chlorek.com
1300205607 M * Bertl Sylvain: it's in the util-vserver base package on rpm based systems
1300205729 M * Sylvain Bertl: I didn't see the .defaults folder creation in the .deb :-(
1300205732 M * Sylvain still searching
1300206472 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving.
1300206709 M * Sylvain yep, I confirm incomplete .deb package for util-vserver-0.30.216-pre2945
1300206728 M * Sylvain mixing install with : util-vserver=0.30.216-pre2864-2+b1
1300206732 M * Sylvain works :-/
1300206751 M * Sylvain I mean, I install the official squeeze one
1300206781 M * Sylvain remove upgrade with the new builded one, and force the luck
1300206791 M * Sylvain and after it works !
1300206843 M * Bertl well, probably just creating that dir, which seems to be a debian package problem, would suffice
1300206880 M * Sylvain something like that
1300206891 M * Bertl it's kind of funny that dpkg refuses to install stuff if a directory is missing, but hey, it's debian :)
1300206899 M * Sylvain the code is not derivated from previous version ?
1300206907 M * Bertl hmm?
1300206987 M * Sylvain 2864 and 2945 are control version system revision, right ?
1300207024 M * Bertl you lost me here I guess ... those are prereleases
1300207084 M * Sylvain svn revision, arf... thats OK.
1300207100 M * Sylvain hot brain, warning...
1300207104 M * Bertl :)
1300207594 M * Bertl Mr_Smoke: good job, no difference to my version (2.6.38)
1300207608 M * Mr_Smoke Glad to hear :)
1300207663 Q * ryker Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1300208263 J * moi ~moi@cla92-6-88-165-97-153.fbx.proxad.net
1300208296 N * moi Guest761
1300208335 J * ryker ~ryker@c-76-16-115-27.hsd1.in.comcast.net
1300208366 M * Sylvain thanks for you joke and helps, it keeps me alive
1300208368 M * Sylvain bye
1300208372 Q * Sylvain Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.15/20110303024726]
1300208398 N * Guest761 moi_
1300208456 N * moi_ zwykx
1300208518 J * petzsch ~markus@p57B663E8.dip.t-dialin.net
1300208768 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:f570:e250:8969:1f6
1300209257 Q * jrdnyquist Server closed connection
1300209269 J * jrdnyquist ~jrdnyquis@slayer.caro.net
1300209972 Q * derjohn_mob Remote host closed the connection
1300210520 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@213.238.45.2
1300210730 M * derjohn_mob hm, what does "vc_set_sched(): Function not implemented" mean ?
1300210746 M * Bertl that you are using older util-vserver :)
1300210757 M * Bertl (together with a recent kernel)
1300210791 M * derjohn_mob so, squeezy is not ready for modern vservers ?
1300210825 M * Bertl possible ...
1300210888 M * derjohn_mob And can you have a look at that: http://paste.linux-vserver.org/18877 ?
1300210981 M * Bertl that is a warning that your guest's capabilities are outdated
1300210998 M * Bertl or the capabilities syslog-ng inside the guest has, to be precise
1300211021 M * derjohn_mob ok, so nothing to worry about ...
1300211033 M * Bertl probably not
1300211040 M * Bertl (at least not now)
1300211083 M * derjohn_mob But throws a kernel trace? It look dangerous .... and .. at that time there was no vserver started, it happened during boot time
1300211100 M * Bertl so your host is outdated then
1300211112 M * Bertl i.e. it's nothing Linux-VServer related, it's a mainline warning
1300211137 M * derjohn_mob ok, so I gonna have to fetch new utils ....
1300211156 M * Bertl and the warining is there because in a few kernel releases from now, that will be simply blocked I guess
1300211158 M * derjohn_mob (or can I diabale the vs_sched things that complains ?)
1300211177 M * derjohn_mob *disable
1300211215 M * Bertl just remove the scheduler settings from the config
1300211307 M * derjohn_mob uh, I hav scheduler settings in my guest? i'll have a look  ...
1300211591 M * derjohn_mob hm, there is not scheduler setting in the guests config 
1300211846 M * Bertl no priority bias either?
1300212221 M * derjohn_mob no prio bias ....
1300212351 M * Bertl well, then you probably have to update util-vserver
1300212546 M * derjohn_mob yes, I accepted that solution ;) 
1300214149 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1300215485 J * manana ~mayday090@84.17.25.149
1300215539 M * zwykx I'm new to vserver, I'm trying to build my first guest and get the following message : /etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase/Vserver1: Function not implemented        any idea ?
1300215633 M * daniel_hozac what filesystem does /vservers live on?
1300215740 M * zwykx ext4 I believe ! I'm checking
1300215754 M * daniel_hozac what kernel?
1300215812 M * zwykx 2.6.36.4-vs2.3.0.36.39 and ext4 on LVM
1300216051 M * Bertl did you build that kernel yourself?
1300216099 M * zwykx Yes, I should add that I am on Fedora 13 inside Virtualbox
1300216120 M * Bertl that's fine, could you upload the .config for it?
1300216160 M * zwykx where should I upload this file ?
1300216175 M * Bertl some pastbin or an upload service
1300216232 Q * ard Remote host closed the connection
1300216433 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving.
1300216652 M * zwykx It should be available at http://dl.free.fr/owFPFMh1K
1300216924 M * Bertl hum, a site which I could read would be beneficial (i.e. something in english for example :)
1300216927 Q * bsingh Read error: Operation timed out
1300217170 M * Bertl how is the filesystem mounted?
1300217239 M * zwykx Another site http://www.2shared.com/file/H66r9zcF/config-26364-vs23036.html
1300217277 M * Bertl thanks, I found the 'download' link on that french site (after clicking a few other links :)
1300217328 M * zwykx "/dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_root on / type ext4 (rw)"
1300217361 M * Bertl so the guests (i.e. /vservers) reside on the rootfs, yes?
1300217369 M * zwykx yes
1300217398 M * Bertl util-vserver is what version?
1300217425 M * Bertl hmm, better upload the output of 'vserver-info - SYSINFO' as well (e.g. to paste.linux-vserver.org)
1300217516 M * zwykx I tried util-vserver-build-0.30.215+svn2847-143596525 which is provided with Fedora 13 and  util-vserver-0.30.216-pre2945 which I recompiled
1300217591 J * bsingh ~balbir@122.172.4.173
1300217644 M * Bertl the former won't really work with that kernel I guess
1300217670 M * zwykx http://paste.linux-vserver.org/18878
1300217697 M * daniel_hozac does ls /proc/virtual work?
1300217712 M * Bertl no VS-API, no VCI ...
1300217759 M * zwykx ls /proc/virtual gives info  status
1300217792 M * zwykx VS-API, no VCI -> I don't know what it is !
1300217932 M * daniel_hozac it means the vserver syscall isn't working.
1300217958 M * Bertl zwykx: let's give testme.sh a spin please
1300217991 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/SCRIPT/testme.sh
1300218134 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc12-aztw24-2-0-cust146.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com
1300218201 M * zwykx http://paste.linux-vserver.org/18879
1300218299 M * Bertl hmm, interesting ...
1300218413 M * Bertl so that is stock F13 with everything out of the box except for util-vserver and the kernel, yes?
1300218429 M * Bertl (or did you build something else yourself?)
1300218433 M * zwykx yes
1300218457 M * zwykx no more build
1300218509 M * Bertl okay, let's try a few more things ...
1300218593 M * zwykx what is not clear is the message, and who write this message
1300218606 M * zwykx (for me)
1300218631 M * Bertl the think the message is from util-vserver because something basic fails
1300218698 M * daniel_hozac how did you patch the kernel.
1300218790 M * Bertl grab this and try to build it http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/TOOLS/vcmd-0.14.tar.bz2
1300218817 M * zwykx I use the french wiki at http://fr.wikibooks.org/wiki/Linux-VServer  >>   cat patch-2.6.36.4-vs2.3.0.36.39.diff | patch -p1
1300218892 M * daniel_hozac wow
1300218895 M * daniel_hozac that is ancient.
1300219401 M * zwykx OK, it's done
1300220057 Q * quasisane Server closed connection
1300220065 J * quasisane ~sanep@c-76-24-80-97.hsd1.nh.comcast.net
1300220129 M * zwykx What should I do with vcmd and vserver ? 
1300220556 M * Bertl ah, sec
1300220617 M * Bertl vcmd -V
1300220667 M * zwykx vc_get_version: Function not implemented
1300220669 M * zwykx vserver: Function not implemented
1300220689 M * Bertl so it looks like your syscall isn't working at all
1300220713 M * Bertl i.e. the kernel interface is broken, missing ...
1300220718 M * Bertl anything in 'dmesg'?
1300220972 M * zwykx Hummm ! Not really clean, may be virtualbox doesn't manage this very well !
1300220979 M * zwykx http://www.2shared.com/file/siOVo1zt/dmesg.html
1300221013 N * ensc Guest788
1300221023 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p5DF2B8FD.dip.t-dialin.net
1300221108 M * Bertl yep that kind of looks like VirtualBox has some problems
1300221121 M * Bertl what is that mount.vboxsf for?
1300221166 M * zwykx Well, I'll tried to rebuild tomorrow in a normal Fedora
1300221182 Q * Guest788 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1300221215 M * zwykx mount.vboxsf is a driver to mount a host file system as a shared filesystem
1300221273 M * Bertl interesting ... well, I'd suggest to try with kvm
1300221294 M * Bertl should be no problem on modern hardware and will not mess with the guest kernel/system
1300221336 M * zwykx Yes, but I should before learn to use kvm (and vserver at the same time)
1300221410 M * Bertl kvm -smp 2 -m 256 -nographic -net user -net nic -snapshot -hda BASE_32M.img -hdc TEST_256M_guest.img -kernel arch/x86_64/boot/bzImage -append "console=ttyS0,115200n8 nolocal noswap rw root=/dev/hda1 debug"
1300221418 M * Bertl (just as an example :)
1300221469 M * daniel_hozac you can also use virt-manager...
1300221539 M * Bertl speaking of, any progress on the libvirt front?
1300221552 M * daniel_hozac i haven't done anything there for awhile.
1300221571 M * daniel_hozac i kept hearing of people claiming they were going to do it, but haven't heard of anything coming about.
1300221576 M * daniel_hozac i'll probably take another look at it.
1300221594 M * Bertl I guess the secret is to make that happen in tiny pieces
1300221630 M * Bertl i.e. submit the simplest form of support first, then follow up with more sophisticated things ...
1300221630 M * daniel_hozac yeah, multiple patchsets of ~3 patches seems to be the way to go....
1300221638 M * zwykx Thanks for the advice, bye
1300221684 M * Bertl will magically open up all those management GUIs based on libvirt (even commercial ones) for Linux-VServer ...
1300221690 M * daniel_hozac yeah.
1300221692 M * Bertl zwykx: you're welcome! have fun!
1300221774 M * daniel_hozac btw, i think i found a potential performance problem in the older kernels... seems like they get stuck in kernel/time/timekeeping.c:ktime_get_ns's loop for several seconds, called from io_schedule.
1300221849 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@d062115.adsl.hansenet.de
1300221882 M * daniel_hozac ("they" being critical kthreads like kdmflush, jbd2, etc)
1300221989 M * daniel_hozac why getting the time takes so long, i have no idea.
1300222220 M * Bertl interesting ...
1300222241 P * zwykx Konversation terminated!
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1300222568 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p5DF2B8FD.dip.t-dialin.net
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1300223259 J * NoobCoder ~unknowni@x1-6-e0-91-f5-90-af-9e.k62.webspeed.dk
1300223296 P * NoobCoder 
1300224059 J * derjohn_mob aj@80.187.234.186
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1300224199 M * daniel_hozac any Debian people around?
1300224389 M * fback daniel_hozac: depends ;)
1300224597 M * Marillion daniel_hozac: depends too
1300224622 M * fback (*) on what kind of debian people you're looking for
1300224630 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: debian folks are everywhere ... :)
1300224633 A * Marillion isn't developer
1300224635 M * daniel_hozac how do you tell dh_install to not copy entire directories, but just include the directory?
1300224739 J * oliwel ~chatzilla@host-93-104-235-209.customer.m-online.net
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1300225277 M * Marillion i believe this function isn't implemented, or -D is it what you are seeking
1300225585 M * Marillion daniel_hozac: i don't know on account of dephelper channel on account exist, but you have chance to ask joeyh in #ikiwiki 
1300225631 M * daniel_hozac i think i will just make the manifest generation copy the files instead of using dh.
1300225700 M * Marillion asking joeyh, it is upstream
1300225850 M * Marillion he live in the USA *iirc* because of time difference
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