1297901352 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1297902032 J * FireEgl ~FireEgl@173-25-19-139.client.mchsi.com 1297902083 Q * imcsk8 Quit: Leaving 1297903919 J * tam_ ~tam@gw.nettam.com 1297903919 Q * tam Remote host closed the connection 1297904753 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection 1297905574 Q * manana Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1297905717 Q * hparker Quit: Quit 1297907910 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc12-aztw24-2-0-cust146.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1297907981 Q * BenG 1297908217 M * PiousMinion Is there any limitation that would prevent something like VirtualBox being run on the host? 1297908424 Q * ghislain Quit: Leaving. 1297908451 M * Bertl nope, although I'd suggest kvm instead 1297908527 M * PiousMinion no intel-vt. :P 1297908574 M * Bertl kvm works fine with amd as well 1297908598 M * PiousMinion Well yeah, but I have intel. heh 1297908624 M * PiousMinion running dual xeons with HT. no 64-bit or intel-vt. :/ 1297908644 M * Bertl that's a pity ... lot of power with little gain 1297908663 M * Bertl anyway, no problem with qemu/virtualbox/etc on the host 1297908720 M * PiousMinion kk, cool 1297909702 M * PiousMinion I looked over "the paper", and the wiki in general, but I'm still having trouble finding information on putting the host in a network context. Suggestions? 1297910316 M * Bertl you cannot 'put the host in a network context' without losing the ability to manage guests 1297910361 M * Bertl what you want and can do easily is put all the 'host' services (you do not need for administration) into a network context 1297910369 M * Bertl (or even better, in a guest) 1297911176 M * PiousMinion How would I go about doing that? Is it vserver config specific or is it a string of iptables rules or what? 1297911379 M * Bertl which one? 1297911401 M * PiousMinion put all the host services in a network context. 1297911427 M * Bertl just wrap the services in an chbind or ncontext invocation 1297911470 M * PiousMinion more greeak, yay. lol 1297911482 M * PiousMinion s/greeak/greek 1297911501 M * Bertl well, you read the paper, you know the tools by now 1297911515 M * Bertl if not, check out 'chbind --help' and 'ncontext --help' 1297911524 M * PiousMinion doing the later now. :) 1297911535 M * Bertl if that doesn't help either, look for the v_* scripts I mentioned 1297911561 M * Bertl they do that already for certain services and should be part of the util-vserver package 1297913205 M * PiousMinion vserver-stat gives: open(memory.usage_in_bytes): No such file or directory 1297913255 M * PiousMinion nvm, apparently there is yet another service to start. :P 1297913287 M * PiousMinion double nvm, started serive and still getting it. 1297913979 M * Bertl it means that your kernel is configured to use cgroups for memory accounting, but the specific memory cgroup is not mounted/available 1297915810 Q * dannf Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1297917569 J * dannf ~dannf@utter.lackof.org 1297920451 J * Piet_ ~Piet__@04ZAACQ7F.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1297920854 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! 1297920858 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1297920864 Q * Piet Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1297925238 J * ktwilight__ ~keliew@91.176.224.82 1297925404 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net 1297925540 Q * ktwilight_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1297925572 Q * bsarora Remote host closed the connection 1297925576 Q * thierryp Remote host closed the connection 1297926483 Q * quasisane Read error: Connection reset by peer 1297926693 J * quasisane ~sanep@c-76-24-80-97.hsd1.nh.comcast.net 1297928260 J * cluk ~cluk@p4FEA4B80.dip.t-dialin.net 1297928989 Q * urbee Read error: Connection reset by peer 1297928992 J * urbee urbee@93-103-199-233.dynamic.t-2.net 1297929943 N * Piet_ Piet 1297931862 J * thierryp ~thierry@zankai.inria.fr 1297932611 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-092-078-236-227.pools.arcor-ip.net 1297932899 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@adsl2.aqueos.com 1297933343 Q * thierryp Remote host closed the connection 1297933401 J * thierryp ~thierry@zankai.inria.fr 1297933797 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1297933818 Q * ghislain Quit: Leaving. 1297933949 Q * thierryp Remote host closed the connection 1297933983 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1297934803 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@adsl2.aqueos.com 1297937644 J * manana ~mayday090@84.17.25.149 1297937985 Q * bsingh Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1297938149 J * ktwilight_ ~keliew@91.176.103.234 1297938336 Q * nkukard Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1297938446 Q * ktwilight__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1297939641 J * petzsch1 ~markus@dslb-088-075-172-123.pools.arcor-ip.net 1297939907 Q * petzsch Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1297940015 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1297940022 M * Bertl morning folks! 1297940185 J * thierryp ~thierry@zankai.inria.fr 1297940209 M * hijacker afternoon 1297940397 M * Mr_Smoke OHAI 1297941525 Q * FireEgl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1297941526 J * Walex ~Walex@o1.phyip3.dur.ac.uk 1297941767 J * nkukard ~nkukard@197.168.32.71 1297941919 Q * nkukard 1297942135 J * FireEgl FireEgl@2001:470:e056:1:8464:4e99:f6c5:904a 1297943134 Q * FireEgl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1297944492 J * noop- ~noop@2001:1608:12::1004 1297944541 Q * noop charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944541 Q * ktwilight_ charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944541 Q * tam_ charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944541 Q * click charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944541 Q * ser charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944541 Q * monrad-51468 charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944541 Q * puck charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944541 Q * MooingLemur charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944541 Q * AndrewLee charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944541 Q * DreamerC charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944541 Q * quasisane charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944541 Q * jrdnyquist charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944541 Q * jkl charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944541 Q * FIChTe charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944541 Q * thierryp charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944541 Q * ghislain charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944541 Q * cuba33ci charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944541 Q * Romster charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944541 Q * hel charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944541 Q * ntrs charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944541 Q * micah charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944541 Q * maod charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944541 Q * fback charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944541 Q * bonbons charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944541 Q * s0undt3ch charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944541 Q * jordi charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944541 Q * Chlorek 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1297944543 Q * ignaz charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944543 Q * karasz charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944543 Q * maharaja charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944543 Q * yang charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944543 Q * Marillion charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944543 Q * mEDI_S charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944543 Q * kir charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944543 Q * urbee charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944543 Q * cluk charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944543 Q * neofutur charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944543 Q * Mr_Smoke charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944543 Q * ensc|w charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944543 Q * C14r charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944543 Q * cehteh charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944543 Q * theocrite charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944543 Q * Guy- charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944543 Q * pmjdebruijn charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944543 Q * wibble_ charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944543 Q * _are_ charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944543 Q * daniel_hozac charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944543 Q * ard charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944543 Q * Janno charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944543 Q * Bertl charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944543 Q * bzed charon.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1297944585 J * fback fback@red.fback.net 1297944586 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1297944586 J * s0undt3ch quasselcor@80.69.34.153 1297944586 J * jordi ~jordi@115.Red-213-96-69.staticIP.rima-tde.net 1297944586 J * Chlorek tymczas@2001:1418:1d4::3ffe 1297944586 J * arekm arekm@carme.pld-linux.org 1297944586 J * julius ~julius@217.20.127.15 1297944586 J * hijacker ~hijacker@213.91.163.5 1297944586 J * zbyniu ~zbyniu@ip-62.181.188.13.static.crowley.pl 1297944586 J * tokkee tokkee@osprey.tokkee.org 1297944586 J * trippeh atomt@uff.ugh.no 1297944586 J * Hunger ~Hunger@Hunger.hu 1297944586 J * Wonka produziert@chaos.in-kiel.de 1297944586 J * Radiance ~Radiance@193.16.154.187 1297944586 J * vasko ~vasko@unreal.rainside.sk 1297944586 J * dentifrice ~fluor@silentio.us 1297944586 J * mnemoc ~amery@shell.opensde.net 1297944586 J * fosco fosco@marx.wirefull.org 1297944586 J * sid3windr luser@bastard-operator.from-hell.be 1297944586 J * Vudumen e1a1834077@perverz.hu 1297944586 J * grobie ~grobie@tyr.schnuckelig.eu 1297944586 J * _Shiva_ shiva@whatcha.looking.at 1297944828 J * FireEgl ~FireEgl@173-25-19-139.client.mchsi.com 1297944828 J * bsingh ~balbir@122.172.47.159 1297944828 J * maod ~maod@173-203-86-60.static.cloud-ips.com 1297944828 J * FIChTe ~fichte@bashpipe.de 1297944828 J * click click@ti0127a340-1004.bb.online.no 1297944828 J * DreamerC ~DreamerC@122-116-181-118.HINET-IP.hinet.net 1297944828 J * MooingLemur ~troy@shells195.pinchaser.com 1297944828 J * ser ~ser@house.metalab.unc.edu 1297944828 J * AndrewLee ~andrew@n201.enc.hlc.edu.tw 1297944828 J * jkl jkl@c-71-56-238-217.hsd1.co.comcast.net 1297944828 J * puck ~puck@leibniz.catalyst.net.nz 1297944828 J * micah ~micah@micah.riseup.net 1297944828 J * monrad-51468 ~mmk@domitian.tdx.dk 1297944828 J * ntrs ~ntrs@vault08.rosehosting.com 1297944828 J * jrdnyquist ~jrdnyquis@slayer.caro.net 1297944828 J * hel ~hel@porthos.lennackers.de 1297944828 J * Romster ~romster@202.168.100.149.dynamic.rev.eftel.com 1297944828 J * cuba33ci ~cuba33ci@111-240-164-148.dynamic.hinet.net 1297944828 J * tam_ ~tam@gw.nettam.com 1297944828 J * quasisane ~sanep@c-76-24-80-97.hsd1.nh.comcast.net 1297944828 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@adsl2.aqueos.com 1297944828 J * ktwilight_ ~keliew@91.176.103.234 1297944828 J * Walex ~Walex@o1.phyip3.dur.ac.uk 1297944828 J * dannf ~dannf@utter.lackof.org 1297944828 J * PiousMinion ~clay@cpe-24-160-86-84.tampabay.res.rr.com 1297944828 J * _nono_ ~gomes@licencieux.ircam.fr 1297944828 J * tolkor ~rj@tdream.lly.earlham.edu 1297944840 J * DelTree ~deplagne@alcorak1.eric.deplagne.name 1297944840 J * eyck ~eyck@77.79.198.66 1297944840 J * sladen ~paul@starsky.19inch.net 1297944840 J * padde ~padde@patrick-nagel.net 1297944840 J * DLange ~DLange@dlange.user.oftc.net 1297944840 J * ex ~ex@valis.net.pl 1297944840 J * jeroen_ ~jeroen@imap.powerinternet.eu 1297944840 J * PowerKe ~PowerKe@94-226-192-17.access.telenet.be 1297944840 J * hoax U2FsdGVkX1@dhcp-077-249-151-209.chello.nl 1297944840 J * disposable disposable@blackhole.sk 1297944840 J * transacid ~transacid@transacid.de 1297944840 J * BobR_oO odie@IRC.13thfloor.at 1297944840 J * ignaz ~ignaz@85-126-150-194.work.xdsl-line.inode.at 1297944840 J * mEDI_S ~medi@255.255.255.255.li 1297944840 J * karasz ~karasz@shell.opensde.net 1297944840 J * yang yang@yang.netrep.oftc.net 1297944840 J * Marillion ~dirk@178.63.150.30 1297944840 J * maharaja raoul@93-189-26-52.rev.ipax.at 1297944842 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1297944842 J * urbee urbee@93-103-199-233.dynamic.t-2.net 1297944842 J * cluk ~cluk@p4FEA4B80.dip.t-dialin.net 1297944842 J * neofutur ~neofutur@neofutur.user.oftc.net 1297944842 J * Mr_Smoke smokey@layla.lecoyote.org 1297944842 J * ensc|w ~ensc@www.sigma-chemnitz.de 1297944842 J * C14r ~C14r@mail.cipworx.de 1297944842 J * cehteh ~ct@pipapo.org 1297944842 J * daniel_hozac ~daniel@c-aa3771d5.08-230-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se 1297944842 J * Janno Janno@server3.raumopol.de 1297944842 J * bzed ~bzed@devel.recluse.de 1297944842 J * Bertl herbert@IRC.13thfloor.at 1297944842 J * theocrite ~Hubert@kim.theocrite.org 1297944842 J * Guy- ~korn@elan.rulez.org 1297944842 J * pmjdebruijn ~pascal@overlord.pcode.nl 1297944842 J * ard ~ard@gw-tweakb16.kwaak.net 1297944842 J * wibble_ wibble@vortex.ukshells.co.uk 1297944842 J * _are_ ~quassel@vs01.lug-s.org 1297945249 J * ju ~ju@mail.lemanchotvolant.com 1297945382 M * ju hello 1297945413 M * ju in future, do you think that Linux-VServer could doesn't needs a kernel patch? like LXC? 1297945471 M * Bertl yes, once the kernel part of LXC provides the required features for proper isolation, the kernel patch will disappear 1297945560 M * ju Bertl: great news ! thx a lot 1297945588 M * Bertl np 1297946154 M * Wonka what's still missing? 1297946554 M * Bertl mostly sane handling of entering a guest, certain isolation and security aspects, network isolation 1297946578 M * Bertl a bunch of 'nice to have' virtualizations are missing as well 1297946823 Q * puck Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1297946916 J * puck ~puck@leibniz.catalyst.net.nz 1297949748 J * ryker ~ryker@c-76-16-115-27.hsd1.in.comcast.net 1297950173 Q * manana Remote host closed the connection 1297950339 Q * FireEgl Remote host closed the connection 1297950450 Q * kir Quit: Leaving. 1297951458 J * thierryp ~thierry@zankai.inria.fr 1297952045 J * FireEgl FireEgl@2001:470:e056:1:d91f:b11c:fedf:e3d9 1297954050 M * Bertl time for a nap ... bbl 1297954059 N * BobR_oO BobR 1297954060 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1297954193 Q * quasisane Quit: leaving 1297954249 Q * Chlorek Quit: Reconnecting 1297954249 J * Chlorek tymczas@2001:1418:1d4::3ffe 1297954905 J * manana ~mayday090@84.17.25.149 1297955193 Q * bsingh Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1297955697 N * ensc Guest1722 1297955707 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p5DF2EAA4.dip.t-dialin.net 1297955727 Q * cluk Quit: Ex-Chat 1297955769 J * bsingh ~balbir@122.172.35.207 1297956108 Q * Guest1722 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1297957229 N * BobR BobR_oO 1297957369 Q * Chlorek Quit: Changing server 1297957392 J * Chlorek c@2001:1418:1d4::3ffe 1297957544 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1297957678 Q * petzsch1 Quit: Leaving. 1297957938 P * PiousMinion 1297958089 Q * thierryp Remote host closed the connection 1297958452 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-088-075-172-123.pools.arcor-ip.net 1297959306 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1297960082 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-088-075-172-123.pools.arcor-ip.net 1297960762 J * kirodar ~kirodar@p4FCDF362.dip.t-dialin.net 1297960788 M * kirodar hi 1297960813 M * kirodar does there exist a post build script to cleanup the init scripts of a debian guest? 1297962183 P * petzsch 1297963656 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-088-075-172-123.pools.arcor-ip.net 1297964083 Q * bsingh Read error: Connection reset by peer 1297964512 Q * ghislain Quit: Leaving. 1297964518 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@adsl2.aqueos.com 1297964731 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc12-aztw24-2-0-cust146.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1297964834 J * bsingh ~balbir@122.172.43.123 1297965188 J * thierryp ~thierry@82.226.190.44 1297966141 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1297966230 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1297966235 Q * bsingh Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1297966343 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:beae:c5ff:fe01:b647 1297966476 Q * Chlorek Quit: Reconnecting 1297966478 J * Chlorek c@2001:1418:1d4::3ffe 1297966506 Q * Chlorek 1297966507 J * Chlorek c@c.sed.pl 1297966771 J * bsingh ~balbir@122.172.37.58 1297967736 J * Abaddon abaddon@sdferwer83.net.autocom.pl 1297967739 M * Abaddon hi 1297967786 M * Abaddon # vserver fighter build -m debootstrap --context 9198 --hostname fighter interface eth0:192.168.69.69-- -d squeeze -m http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian --arch i386 1297967789 M * Abaddon Could not find local version of 'debootstrap'; downloading it from 1297967791 M * Abaddon what do I do wrong? 1297967794 M * Abaddon http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/debootstrap/debootstrap_1.0.27_all.deb... 1297967797 M * Abaddon 2011-02-17 20:16:32 URL:http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/debootstrap/debootstrap_1.0.27_all.deb [57368/57368] -> "/var/tmp/debootstrap.rpMoCI/debootstrap.deb" [1] 1297967801 M * Abaddon E: No such script: -d 1297967817 M * Abaddon i have 2.6.33.3-vs2.3.0.36.30.4 and util-vserver-0.30.216_pre2910 on gentoo 1297969039 M * Abaddon well i paste wrong command, i used vserver fighter build -m debootstrap --context 9198 --hostname fighter --interface eth0:192.168.69.69 -- -d squeeze http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian -- --arch i386 1297969046 M * Abaddon but error doesn't change 1297969110 M * Abaddon oh, it works, i corrected the command 1297969113 M * Abaddon sorry for taking your time 1297969116 P * Abaddon 1297969586 Q * Walex Remote host closed the connection 1297971608 Q * thierryp Remote host closed the connection 1297971609 J * imcsk8 ~ichavero@148.229.1.11 1297972659 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-088-075-172-123.pools.arcor-ip.net 1297973729 J * ktwilight__ ~keliew@91.176.215.62 1297973858 Q * ktwilight_ Read error: Operation timed out 1297974280 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1297974907 Q * FireEgl Remote host closed the connection 1297975326 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1297975830 J * FireEgl ~FireEgl@173-25-19-139.client.mchsi.com 1297977240 Q * ju Quit: Lost terminal 1297978932 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-088-075-172-123.pools.arcor-ip.net 1297978968 Q * petzsch 1297981996 Q * ghislain Quit: Leaving. 1297982347 J * selim ~chatzilla@e181066042.adsl.alicedsl.de 1297982780 P * selim 1297984562 Q * kirodar Quit: Leaving. 1297985061 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-088-075-172-123.pools.arcor-ip.net