1297038062 Q * ViRUS Quit: If there is Artificial Intelligence, then there's bound to be some artificial stupidity. (Thomas Edison) 1297042820 Q * hparker Quit: Quit 1297044144 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! 1297044149 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1297049115 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:beae:c5ff:fe01:b647 1297050188 J * selim ~chatzilla@e181075168.adsl.alicedsl.de 1297050219 P * selim 1297055055 Q * bsingh Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1297055657 J * bsingh ~balbir@122.172.156.191 1297056345 Q * Piet Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1297058619 Q * FireEgl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1297059224 J * FireEgl ~FireEgl@173-25-19-139.client.mchsi.com 1297059710 Q * FireEgl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1297059969 Q * hparker Quit: Quit 1297060308 J * FireEgl FireEgl@2001:470:e056:1:4491:3fc4:5386:40a1 1297061776 Q * bsingh Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1297063690 J * harobed ~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net 1297064180 Q * harobed Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1297064542 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@adsl2.aqueos.com 1297064564 J * bsingh ~balbir@122.248.161.59 1297067724 M * fLoo hey 1297067740 M * fLoo i've found that i enable net_cls in /etc/fstab cgroups stop to work 1297067757 M * fLoo might this be due to the fact that i did not include QOS into my latest kernel build ? 1297067918 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-188-103-058-249.pools.arcor-ip.net 1297068015 M * fLoo and autostart doesnt work in squeeze 1297068024 M * fLoo i added "default" to .../apps/init/mark 1297068028 M * fLoo doesnt autostart anymore 1297068263 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc12-aztw24-2-0-cust146.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1297068580 M * fLoo hey BenG 1297068630 M * BenG hi fLoo 1297068637 M * fLoo i've got the same problem as yesterday 1297068639 M * fLoo well 1297068641 M * fLoo 2 problems 1297068642 M * BenG nooooo 1297068644 M * fLoo yes 1297068648 M * BenG nooooooooo 1297068649 M * fLoo cgroups do work now 1297068656 M * BenG good good 1297068663 M * BenG so what's the deal? 1297068663 M * fLoo but i installed util-vserver on the node by building them by myself 1297068674 M * fLoo because i wanted the vservers directory to be /vservers 1297068683 M * BenG ah okay 1297068685 M * fLoo so i installed everything and now i cant update-rc.d again 1297068690 M * fLoo insserv: warning: script 'v_named' missing LSB tags and overrides 1297068693 M * fLoo etc... 1297068704 M * BenG why do you need that legacy package? 1297068704 M * fLoo so util-vserver and vservers-defaults wont be started at boottime 1297068709 M * fLoo i dont need it 1297068714 M * fLoo but its beeing installed by default 1297068719 M * fLoo and i dont know why it even does that 1297068723 M * fLoo i dont use rlimits at all 1297068742 M * BenG what happens if you remove the util-vserver-legacy package? 1297068747 M * fLoo howto ? 1297068765 M * BenG apt-get remove util-vserver-legacy 1297068768 M * fLoo na 1297068774 M * fLoo i installed it by compiling myself 1297068777 M * fLoo i didnt use a .deb 1297068784 M * BenG well there's your problem 1297068800 M * fLoo is there a way to compile it without legacy support ? 1297068807 M * fLoo like ./configure --without-legacy 1297068809 M * fLoo or something ? 1297068813 M * BenG daniel_hozac is maybe the one to ask 1297068819 M * BenG but check the ./configure 1297068825 M * BenG script 1297068855 M * fLoo ok will do that 1297068867 M * fLoo the other thing, if i enable net_cls in fstab /dev/cgroup wont get mounted anymore 1297068873 M * BenG I've not found .deb packages to cause a problem with having the default vdir in a non-standard place though 1297068880 M * fLoo might this be the reason because i kicked QOS out of my latest kernelbuild ? 1297068885 M * BenG mine points to /home/vserver 1297068912 M * BenG "might this be the reason because i kicked QOS out of my latest kernelbuild ?" 1297068921 M * BenG I don't understand that sentence 1297068933 M * fLoo well 1297068947 M * fLoo you can mount cgroup using cpu,cpuset,cpuacct,memory and so on 1297068954 M * fLoo and ofcourse you can use net_cls too 1297068959 M * BenG yep 1297068969 M * fLoo but when i add 'net_cls' to it, it wont mount anymore 1297068985 M * fLoo and i think this might be so because i removed QOS support out of my kernel 1297068990 M * fLoo am i correct ? 1297069047 M * BenG you might well be right but I don't know 1297069057 M * BenG I'll just check what I've got 1297069061 M * fLoo ok thanks 1297069072 M * fLoo the only thing i've found is --enable-apis=NOLEGACY 1297069082 M * BenG looks hopeful 1297069088 M * fLoo but is legacy an api ? 1297069110 M * BenG but seriously, I don't think you'll have much trouble with /etc/vserver/.default/vdir getting overwritten with this package 1297069117 M * BenG just symllink it where you want it 1297069143 M * BenG and it should stick 1297069153 M * fLoo ./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-release --mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info --sysconfdir=/etc --enable-dietlibc --localstatedir=/var --with-vrootdir=/vserver --enable-apis=NOLEGACY 1297069158 M * fLoo giving it a try now 1297069160 M * BenG has - using the packages from repo.psand.net 1297069162 M * fLoo lets see what happens 1297069183 M * BenG WRT net_cls, I do have that mounted 1297069226 M * BenG so, what are the kernel configs you turned off in your last build? 1297069234 M * BenG and I'll check for them in my config 1297069239 M * fLoo can you please do a 'cat /boot/config-`uname -rī | grep qos' 1297069369 M * fLoo its about [*] QoS and/or fair queueing 1297069370 M * BenG bucket:~# cat /boot/config-2.6.36.3-vs2.3.0.36.38.4-beng | grep -i QOS 1297069370 M * BenG CONFIG_IPW2200_QOS=y 1297069376 M * fLoo ok 1297069383 M * fLoo thats what i've kicked ozut 1297069392 M * BenG IPW2200? 1297069393 M * fLoo maybe i'll readd it to gain that option back 1297069397 M * fLoo nah not ipw2200 1297069401 M * fLoo but complete qos support 1297069496 M * fLoo insserv: warning: script 'vservers-legacy' missing LSB tags and overrides 1297069498 M * fLoo damnit 1297069506 M * fLoo --enable-apis=nolegacy doesnt work 1297069581 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru 1297069591 M * BenG I reckon the packages will suit you better fLoo 1297069609 M * BenG I've put up i386 for them on the repo now 1297069620 M * fLoo might be the case, but there has to be a way to get this crap working without :) 1297069626 M * fLoo thanks for that 1297069683 M * BenG packages are a lot more manageable IMO 1297069689 M * fLoo you're right 1297069743 M * fLoo but just because of it, i want to get this working now 1297069751 M * BenG :) 1297069753 M * fLoo to get my satisfaction 1297069754 M * fLoo you know 1297069761 M * BenG yep I know that one 1297070016 M * fLoo giving ' --disable-legacy' a try now 1297070416 M * fLoo didnt wok 1297070418 M * fLoo *work 1297070424 M * fLoo last try : --without-legacy 1297070458 M * BenG surely if you read the configure script it will tell you 1297070467 M * fLoo there is no option for legacy 1297070472 M * fLoo atleast its not mentioned 1297070488 M * fLoo only --disable-PACKAGE and --without-PACKAGE as option exist 1297070500 M * BenG ah 1297070522 M * BenG so what's the result of doing --disable-util-vserver-legacy ? 1297070536 M * fLoo why its util-vserver-legacy instead of legacy ? 1297070549 M * BenG because that's the PACKAGE 1297070627 M * fLoo lets see 1297070704 M * BenG was a complete guess of course 1297070813 M * fLoo nope 1297070821 M * fLoo this seriously suxx lol 1297070897 M * BenG ah, the only package is 'util-vserver' 1297070950 M * BenG and "--with legacy" refers to support for the legacy APIs 1297070987 M * BenG fLoo, check out util-vserver.spec 1297071024 M * fLoo i see 1297071031 M * fLoo so it has to be --without legacy 1297071084 M * fLoo ## Temporary workaround to remove old v_* files; it will conflict 1297071084 M * fLoo ## somehow with the -legacy package but can be fixed by reinstalling 1297071084 M * fLoo ## this package. 1297071084 M * fLoo ## TODO: remove me in the final .spec file 1297071103 M * fLoo sorry 1297071104 M * fLoo ------- 1297071104 M * fLoo ## Temporary workaround to remove old v_* files; it will conflict 1297071104 M * fLoo ## somehow with the -legacy package but can be fixed by reinstalling 1297071104 M * fLoo ## this package. 1297071104 M * fLoo ## TODO: remove me in the final .spec file 1297071106 M * fLoo %define v_services httpd named portmap sendmail smb sshd xinetd gated 1297071106 M * fLoo %triggerun sysv -- util-vserver-sysv < 0.30.198 1297071108 M * fLoo for i in %v_services; do 1297071108 M * fLoo %chkconfig --del v_$i || : 1297071110 M * fLoo done 1297071110 M * fLoo ---------- 1297071112 M * fLoo 1297071164 M * BenG you should probably have paste bin'ed that 1297071168 M * fLoo yep 1297071190 M * BenG well, removing the v_ scripts would fix it 1297071410 M * fLoo removed the v_ scripts out of /etc/init.d 1297071417 M * fLoo rebooting the system now, lets see 1297071460 M * fLoo yes, this works 1297071469 M * fLoo but daniel_hozac needs to address this issue asap 1297071615 M * fLoo btw running Linux devlg 2.6.37-vs2.3.0.37-rc3-coresec-i386 #2 SMP Mon Feb 7 03:40:12 CET 2011 i686 GNU/Linux now 1297071700 M * BenG as I've pointed out fLoo, it's all fixed in the packages 1297071741 M * fLoo which packages you're referring to ? 1297071751 M * fLoo you mean your .debs ? 1297071756 M * BenG the ones you get when you compile 1297071789 M * fLoo obviously not, as i've compiled them like 20 times now and i had to manually remove the v_ files from init.d 1297071904 M * BenG to build you util-vserver, are you using the util-vserver tar ball, entering it and then doing "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc" as recommended? 1297071925 M * BenG correct 1297071933 M * fLoo gosh, i hate logs ;) 1297071966 M * BenG so was that correct- because with that method you should be getting .deb files 1297072002 M * BenG all my packages are is the result of doing that uploaded to my repositories 1297072014 M * fLoo yep, i'll switch to .deb again 1297072059 M * BenG aw man, you should see the things I've said that have ended up in logs 1297072061 M * BenG the shame 1297072084 M * fLoo i did compile these for me too, yesterday 1297072091 M * BenG ah okay 1297072103 M * fLoo but i ended up beeing unsatisfied because i wanted it to work my way too 1297072112 M * fLoo and i still am 1297072442 M * BenG certainly the old advice used to be "compile the source yourself" 1297072802 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1297073102 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc12-aztw24-2-0-cust146.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1297073205 J * hdl ~hdl@biblibre-breteuil.pck.nerim.net 1297073287 Q * fLoo 1297073324 M * hdl hi all, I had a crash on one of our physical machines and it appears that when restarting the vservers, the virtual servers restarted in an old state. 1297073457 M * hdl Is there a way to avoid that in the future ? 1297073464 M * hdl Is there a reason for that ? 1297073750 M * BenG what happened to your discs when the machine restarted? fsck? what file system are you on? 1297073799 M * hdl I think that fsck was launched yes. 1297073801 M * hdl ext3 1297074035 M * BenG there will have been some deleted inodes then I guess hdl 1297074446 M * hdl is there a way to prevent that from happening ? I mean is there a way to secure a vserver state ? 1297074487 M * hdl I saw some snapshot scripts : but it cannot be used on hot vservers as far as I can read. 1297075479 J * selim ~chatzilla@e181075168.adsl.alicedsl.de 1297075480 Q * selim 1297076435 Q * ensc|w Remote host closed the connection 1297076621 M * hdl BenG: If a vserver is restarted will it also launch fsck on the vm ? 1297076641 M * BenG no 1297076662 M * BenG or it may do, but that wouldnt' be allowed 1297076686 M * BenG it's usually in the initrd, which won't be run anyway 1297076734 M * hdl So the problem of lost data should only come from the host. 1297076745 M * BenG yes 1297076749 M * BenG is that not so? 1297076773 M * hdl will have to investigate... Could also come from mysql checks. 1297076856 M * hdl how to secure a vserver vm status Is there a way to make hot snapshots ? 1297077963 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1297078108 J * manana ~mayday090@84.17.25.149 1297079076 J * Piet ~Piet__@28IAACJJY.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1297079834 J * ensc|w ~ensc@www.sigma-chemnitz.de 1297080328 J * harobed ~harobed@pda57-1-82-231-115-1.fbx.proxad.net 1297080940 Q * harobed Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1297081316 J * kirodar ~kirodar@ip-80-226-218-20.vodafone-net.de 1297081332 P * kirodar 1297081726 J * Marbug ~Marbug@83.101.67.3 1297082534 J * fleischergesell ~fleischer@dslb-088-077-196-021.pools.arcor-ip.net 1297082581 M * fleischergesell If I mount something in a guest using the guests fstab, how can I unmount it without restarting the guest? 1297082657 M * fleischergesell vnamespace -e XID umount /path exits 0 on the first run, but doing a vnamespace -e XID cat /proc/mounts still shows the mount and I cannot, for instance, remove the logical volume because there still seems to be some open file handler 1297082757 M * fleischergesell consecutive vnamespace -e XID umount /path will exit with "not found" 1297082899 M * fleischergesell If I use "vmount", I can just umount it using vnamespace. But since I need the automount, I need to list the partitions in the guests fstab - or is there any other way to automatically mount something in the guests? 1297084629 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc12-aztw24-2-0-cust146.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1297085650 J * fLoo fLoo@188-194-121-182-dynip.superkabel.de 1297085654 M * fLoo ree 1297085662 M * fLoo daniel_hozac u there ? 1297086003 J * thierryp ~thierry@home.parmentelat.net 1297086826 M * fLoo btw 1297086840 M * fLoo is there a way to implement "shutdown -r" in vserver-guests ? 1297086852 M * fLoo it just works with the -f option which turns off the vserver completely 1297086886 M * BenG what does shutdown -r -f do 1297086889 M * BenG or reboot -f 1297086957 M * fLoo reboot -f shuts down the vserver 1297086964 M * BenG but no reboot? 1297086967 M * fLoo nope 1297086969 M * fLoo just shutdown 1297086988 M * BenG it used to work, but I've not tried with a new set of tools 1297086989 M * fLoo shutdown -r -f doesnt work at all 1297087004 M * fLoo The system is going down for reboot NOW!ndns.org (pts/0) (Mon Feb 7 13:56:38 1297087004 M * fLoo shutdown: /dev/initctl: No such file or directory 1297087004 M * fLoo init: /dev/initctl: No such file or directory 1297087016 M * fLoo its because the initscripts doesnt work in vserver 1297087030 M * BenG it used to work though 1297087051 M * fLoo it does on the host but not inside the guests 1297087059 M * fLoo worked with lenny ofcourse :) 1297087119 M * BenG does it work if you ssh into the server rather than entering from above? 1297087134 M * fLoo i sshed into it, yes 1297087149 M * fLoo and /dev/initctl doesnt exist at all 1297087273 M * BenG that's normal 1297087276 M * BenG for guest 1297087278 M * BenG for a guest 1297087395 M * BenG creating it doesn't help 1297087403 M * BenG does look like a broken feature 1297087436 M * fLoo yep 1297087436 M * fLoo kinda 1297087523 M * BenG so, yes verified this end, reboot from inside a guest just stops it 1297087568 M * fLoo yep 1297087592 M * BenG ah, there's a bcap for it 1297087596 M * fLoo bcap ? 1297087605 M * BenG 22 0x00400000 SYS_BOOT Allow use of reboot() 1297087607 M * fLoo whats a bcap *google* 1297087610 M * fLoo ah 1297087678 M * BenG hmm, but it's on by default 1297087727 M * BenG yes, that doesn't help at all 1297087776 M * fLoo http://linux-vserver.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions#How_can_I_reboot.2Fhalt_guests.3F 1297087794 M * fLoo it states that after vserver 2+ its not necessary anymore and it depends on the guests initstyle 1297087808 M * BenG used to work no problems 1297087836 M * BenG we are on debian guest, with a new init style though 1297087850 M * BenG so perhaps it's changes in the guest, dependency based booting 1297087875 M * fLoo exactly 1297087878 M * BenG I want to try on a Lenny or Etch based guest now, to see if it still works 1297087891 M * fLoo good idea, dont have any lenny guests left atm :( 1297087904 M * BenG I do, but not any I would get away with rebooting 1297088049 P * kir Leaving. 1297088315 J * alpha_one_x86 ~kvirc@90.169.149.105 1297088350 M * alpha_one_x86 Hello, how set at the startup guest the ulimit -n 65535 ? 1297088557 M * fLoo giving CAP_SYS_RESOURCE in S_CAPS= will grant this 1297088557 M * fLoo to that vserver, but also allow to modify ANY resource 1297088557 M * fLoo inside this server, basically wiping out vserver 1297088557 M * fLoo security ... (so I would modify that script instead) 1297088557 J * |alpha_one_x86| ~kvirc@90.168.206.169 1297088560 Q * alpha_one_x86 Read error: Connection reset by peer 1297088822 J * alpha_one_x86 ~kvirc@90.169.72.92 1297089104 Q * |alpha_one_x86| Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1297089116 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1297089464 Q * fleischergesell 1297089855 M * alpha_one_x86 When I entre into guest via vserver or at service startup it seam be ulimits -n = 1024 1297090020 M * ryker fLoo: are you using cgroups? it breaks the reboot feature of a guest. 1297090077 M * ryker a workaround that Bertl gave me was to put something like this in /etc/vservers//app/vshelper/restart 1297090088 M * ryker #!/bin/bash 1297090088 M * ryker echo "vserver restart" | at now 1297090377 M * daniel_hozac alpha_one_x86: set /etc/vservers//ulimits/nofile 1297090480 M * alpha_one_x86 thanks 1297090688 Q * alpha_one_x86 Quit: KVIrc Equilibrium 4.1.1, revision: 5206, sources date: 20101102, built on: 2010-12-29 12:21:01 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ 1297091694 N * ensc Guest597 1297091704 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p5DF2CCF8.dip.t-dialin.net 1297091986 Q * hijacker_ Quit: Leaving 1297092105 Q * Guest597 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1297092408 Q * thierryp Remote host closed the connection 1297092441 Q * FireEgl Remote host closed the connection 1297092609 M * fLoo ryker : thank you 1297092652 M * ryker yw 1297092655 M * fLoo daniel_hozac 1297092658 M * fLoo you 1297092662 M * fLoo you're still in here ? 1297093089 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1297093159 Q * bsingh Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1297093417 J * FireEgl FireEgl@2001:470:e056:1:f100:27d3:c696:7362 1297094338 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:beae:c5ff:fe01:b647 1297095670 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1297095675 M * Bertl morning folks! 1297097804 M * ghislain hello bertl 1297098013 Q * rickytato Quit: rickytato 1297098040 J * rickytato ~rickytato@host112-167-dynamic.31-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it 1297098336 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1297099680 J * hijacker ~hijacker@87-126-142-51.btc-net.bg 1297099712 J * dna ~dna@dslb-088-074-208-191.pools.arcor-ip.net 1297100140 Q * hdl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1297101987 J * fzylogic ~fzylogic@208.80.64.79 1297105121 Q * dna Read error: Connection reset by peer 1297105231 J * dna ~dna@dslb-088-074-208-191.pools.arcor-ip.net 1297105547 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc12-aztw24-2-0-cust146.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1297107247 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1297109127 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-188-103-058-249.pools.arcor-ip.net 1297110774 J * hdl ~hdl@bon13-4-88-179-14-129.fbx.proxad.net 1297111106 J * ktwilight ~keliew@91.176.177.229 1297112290 Q * hijacker Quit: Leaving 1297116180 Q * hdl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1297116194 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1297116379 J * BenG_ ~bengreen@cpc12-aztw24-2-0-cust146.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1297116385 Q * BenG_ 1297116452 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1297116673 J * hdl ~hdl@bon13-4-88-179-14-129.fbx.proxad.net 1297117487 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1297120670 Q * hdl Ping timeout: 480 seconds