1296950772 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1296951412 Q * manana Remote host closed the connection 1296957137 Q * ghislain Quit: Leaving. 1296958975 Q * Piet_ Remote host closed the connection 1296959031 J * Piet ~Piet__@1RDAAAIYO.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1296962220 Q * swenTjuln Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1296964526 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1296968013 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! 1296968017 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1296969593 J * Piet_ ~Piet__@1RDAAAI1C.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1296970015 Q * Piet Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1296981105 N * Piet_ Piet 1296981289 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-092-078-228-209.pools.arcor-ip.net 1296984784 J * fLoo fLoo@188-194-121-182-dynip.superkabel.de 1296985907 J * Edkei 58d82f73@ircip2.mibbit.com 1296985912 M * Edkei hello 1296985917 M * fLoo hey 1296985936 M * Edkei can anyone help me? 1296985941 M * fLoo we dont know 1296985960 M * Edkei i want to install framework 4 on my linux vps (debian) and i dont know how. I was saerching tutorials in google but i found nothing... 1296986157 M * fLoo framework 4 ? 1296986164 M * fLoo dont know that 1296986192 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1296986457 Q * Edkei Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client 1296989226 J * manana ~mayday090@84.17.25.149 1296989415 J * ghislain ~AQUEOS@adsl2.aqueos.com 1296991584 M * _Shiva_ bonbons: regarding your comment on the ML you just did - what exactly is new about "so a good reason to drop & forget that 2.6.26-2-vserver-amd64 kernel" ;-) SCNR ;-) 1296991646 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc12-aztw24-2-0-cust146.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1296991669 M * bonbons _Shiva_: better formulation might have been "yet another good reason" ;) 1296991861 M * _Shiva_ as Squeeze got released tonight, I wonder if the Wiki page about brokeness will exceed the Lenny page ;-) 1296992530 M * BenG http://linux-vserver.org/Installation_on_Debian - that page needs a major reworking now 1296993199 M * BenG I've done a bit on it 1296993265 M * _Shiva_ maybe also a word for Lenny->Squeeze Upgraders about fixing guests built on Lenny (xattr problem fixing) 1296993309 M * BenG good point 1296993376 M * BenG I've been ignoring the Debian patched kernel in Lenny, so I don't know the ins and outs of it 1296993396 M * BenG will wait to get some feedback in, unless someone else wants to go for it 1296993401 M * _Shiva_ most of them will not be aware of any problem - but will soon stop by to FAQ .. ;-) 1296993684 M * BenG I've updated the FAQ 1296993700 M * BenG http://linux-vserver.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions#Distribution_specific_questions 1296993734 M * BenG laters all 1296993736 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1296995038 A * fLoo is now running debian squeeze 1296995041 M * fLoo yay 1296995473 A * petzsch was running testing since the freeze :) 1296995615 J * dna ~dna@36-169-103-86.dynamic.dsl.tng.de 1296995690 M * fLoo yep same here 1296995702 M * fLoo atleast since it got deep frozen 1296995716 M * fLoo but upgraded all my machines today 1296995724 M * fLoo still some left -.- 1296995739 M * fLoo good that i've done that 24 months ago hehe 1296996642 Q * C14r Remote host closed the connection 1296997514 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@pD957703E.dip.t-dialin.net 1296998923 Q * thal Read error: Connection reset by peer 1297000514 Q * derjohn_mob Remote host closed the connection 1297003704 Q * hparker Remote host closed the connection 1297004870 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:beae:c5ff:fe01:b647 1297005319 N * ensc Guest469 1297005329 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p5DF2DB4B.dip.t-dialin.net 1297005725 Q * Guest469 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1297007138 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1297007146 M * Bertl morning folks! 1297008580 Q * hparker Remote host closed the connection 1297009477 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:beae:c5ff:fe01:b647 1297010575 J * ViRUS ~mp@p579B51EA.dip.t-dialin.net 1297011876 Q * manana Remote host closed the connection 1297014585 Q * bsingh Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1297014665 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1297014819 J * harobed ~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net 1297014984 N * ensc Guest490 1297014994 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p5DF2DB4B.dip.t-dialin.net 1297015119 J * bsingh ~balbir@122.172.30.245 1297015155 Q * Guest490 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1297015224 Q * hparker Quit: Quit 1297024828 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc12-aztw24-2-0-cust146.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1297025815 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1297026492 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1297027275 Q * harobed Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1297027481 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1297028641 M * fLoo mmh 1297028651 M * fLoo i have some serious issue using vserver under squeeze 1297028654 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc12-aztw24-2-0-cust146.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1297028692 M * fLoo looks like i cant even use util-vserver under squeeze 1297028695 M * fLoo totally buggy 1297028709 M * BenG what you found fLoo ? 1297028713 M * fLoo well 1297028717 M * fLoo several issues 1297028742 M * fLoo like one cant install util-vserver properly 1297028752 M * BenG really? how so? 1297028753 M * fLoo when you try to update-rc.d vprocunhide it errors out 1297028771 M * BenG this is from Debian own repositories? 1297028776 M * fLoo you cant use cgroups cause they are bugged somehow 1297028779 M * fLoo no 1297028787 M * BenG ah 1297028788 M * fLoo custom kernel + latest util-vserver 1297028798 M * BenG your own kernel? 1297028800 M * fLoo yep 1297028819 M * BenG well I have same setup and it's all going great 1297028833 M * fLoo have you compiled util-vserver on your own ? 1297028833 M * BenG but did have trouble with the vprocunhide yes 1297028837 M * BenG yes 1297028843 M * fLoo debian squeeze ? 1297028850 M * BenG http://repo.psand.net/ - that's were my packages are 1297028860 M * BenG yep squeezy squeeze 1297028881 M * BenG you can solve the vprocunhide thing by running it manually 1297028890 M * BenG or by hacking the postinst script 1297028898 M * BenG then it all should work 1297028908 M * fLoo ah 1297028915 M * fLoo you are the maintainer of bristol kernel store 1297028918 M * fLoo used them some time ago 1297028924 M * fLoo then stopped, because you didnt update them 1297028948 M * BenG I've always update the 2.6.31 line for security updates 1297028951 M * fLoo so i started to build up my own 1297028986 M * BenG what problem are you having with cgroups? 1297028994 M * fLoo ok 1297029003 M * BenG /var/lib/dpkg/info/util-vserver-sysv.postinst should be: 1297029003 M * BenG #!/bin/sh 1297029003 M * BenG 1297029003 M * BenG if test "$1" = configure; then 1297029004 M * BenG update-rc.d vservers-default start 98 2 3 4 5 . stop 02 0 1 6 . > /dev/null 1297029006 M * BenG update-rc.d vprocunhide start 26 2 3 4 5 . stop 74 0 1 6 . > /dev/null 1297029008 M * BenG update-rc.d util-vserver start 10 2 3 4 5 . stop 90 0 1 6 . > /dev/null 1297029010 M * BenG fi 1297029022 M * BenG sorry, should have pointed you to the pastebin then 1297029036 M * BenG apologies for not following protocol everyone 1297029039 M * fLoo when i setup cgroup (enabled in kernel ofcourse), and set memory limits it says "no permission to access /dev/cgroup//cgroup/memory.limit... 1297029061 M * BenG interesting, never seen that 1297029068 M * fLoo rights were properly set ofcourse 1297029073 M * BenG does the file exist? 1297029078 M * fLoo ofcourse 1297029089 M * BenG and what value are you trying to write to it? 1297029090 M * fLoo its mounted (set in /etc/fstab) at boottime 1297029093 M * fLoo 512 1297029108 M * BenG 512 bytes? ;) 1297029115 M * fLoo 512M ;) 1297029134 M * BenG so the file has "512M" in it? 1297029155 M * BenG /etc/vservers//cgroup/memory.limit... 1297029157 M * fLoo correct 1297029161 M * BenG hmmm 1297029167 M * BenG try in bytes 1297029169 M * fLoo without the quotes 1297029174 M * BenG ofcourse 1297029177 M * fLoo i can try to :) 1297029183 M * fLoo just reinstalled the complete system 1297029192 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:beae:c5ff:fe01:b647 1297029193 M * fLoo and setup a vm inside my workstation to test it .. 1297029206 M * fLoo because formatting 6 tb takes some time 1297029213 M * fLoo so i'm trying it out in my vm now 1297029224 M * BenG 512Mib = 536870912 1297029289 M * BenG also, can you manually write to those files? the /dev/cgroup ones? 1297029300 M * fLoo do you can supply a prebuild .deb binary for util-vserver ? 1297029305 M * fLoo BenG: yes 1297029315 M * BenG it's on the squeeze part of repo.psand.net 1297029326 M * fLoo do you have a link ? 1297029328 M * BenG and includes my fix for util-vserver postinst script 1297029355 M * BenG deb http://repo.psand.net/ squeeze main 1297029384 M * fLoo ty 1297029400 M * BenG if you really want a direct link though, http://repo.psand.net/pool/main/u/util-vserver/ 1297029420 M * BenG yes, these used to be the bristolwireless.net repositories 1297029469 M * fLoo what is the difference in util-vserver and util-vserver-basic and ....-debian ? 1297029509 M * BenG util-vserver is compiled directly from daniel_hozac tar balls 1297029520 M * BenG I think that's the only one in the squeeze repo 1297029536 M * BenG the others are packaged and compiled by ghislain 1297029550 M * fLoo ok 1297029558 M * fLoo so i use http://repo.psand.net/pool/main/u/util-vserver/ 1297029570 M * fLoo but i need i386 :) 1297029575 M * BenG damn 1297029581 M * BenG I haven't got round to those yet 1297029606 M * BenG I can't see what could be going wrong with your util-vserver 1297029621 M * fLoo gimme 5 mins 1297029625 M * fLoo setting up my vm 1297029629 M * fLoo and installing it again 1297029631 M * fLoo lets see 1297029722 M * BenG to build you util-vserver, are you using the util-vserver tar ball, entering it and then doing "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc" as recommended? 1297029742 M * fLoo correct 1297029808 M * BenG I'll check back in five 1297029814 M * fLoo ok 1297029816 M * fLoo thanks 1297029835 M * BenG so yeah, for me, aside from issues with vprocunhide, it's all looking good on my systems 1297029871 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1297030275 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc12-aztw24-2-0-cust146.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1297030295 M * BenG any joy fLoo ? 1297030319 M * fLoo nope 1297030322 M * fLoo not yet done 1297030339 M * BenG okay, back in 15 :) 1297030341 Q * BenG 1297031669 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc12-aztw24-2-0-cust146.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1297031698 M * BenG fLoo, what are you findings? 1297031770 M * fLoo ok 1297031773 M * fLoo here we go 1297031781 M * fLoo i installed kernel now 1297031786 M * fLoo installed util-vserver 1297031791 M * fLoo now i normally should go for: 1297031795 M * fLoo update-rc.d vprocunhide defaults 1297031795 M * fLoo update-rc.d vservers-default defaults 1297031814 M * fLoo http://pastebin.com/pHYahjif 1297031816 M * fLoo this is the result 1297031848 M * BenG v_httpd and all those beginning with v_ are from the legacy package 1297031855 M * BenG remove it 1297031891 M * BenG util-vserver-legacy - not good 1297031910 M * fLoo i installed it as i always do 1297031922 M * BenG you need it for something? 1297031926 M * fLoo nope 1297032040 M * BenG "update-rc.d vprocunhide defaults" shouldn't be necessary that should have been done in the install 1297032050 M * BenG well, not with defaults, that's too early 1297032064 M * fLoo mmh 1297032083 M * BenG but you should be on dependency based boot and it should have worked out when to start the scripts 1297032096 M * fLoo exactly 1297032101 M * fLoo thats what i've thought atleast 1297032139 M * BenG so you have the correct files in /etc/init.d - vprocunhide, util-vserver and vservers-default? 1297032155 M * BenG I had a problem with them not appearing at one point 1297032171 M * fLoo yep 1297032176 M * fLoo everything is in there 1297032199 M * BenG okay, so as a quick hack, you edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/util-vserver-sysv.postinst 1297032258 M * BenG changing it for my version, or even just commenting out the update-rc.d bit completely maybe, then run "apt-get --reinstall install util-vserver-sysv" 1297032298 M * BenG that's what I'd do, based on what I've found so far, but I could be barking up the wrong tree 1297032321 M * fLoo seems there need to be some fixes done in util-vserver 1297032330 M * fLoo i'll contact daniel regarding these issues 1297032362 M * BenG I sent him the working sysv scripts, no response yet 1297032393 M * BenG which kernel are you running by the way? 1297032409 M * fLoo you 2.6.36 one 1297032412 M * fLoo *your 1297032430 M * BenG did I do that for i386, or are you on amd64? 1297032448 M * fLoo nope its i386 1297032453 M * fLoo the latest i've found for i386 1297032467 M * BenG no 2.6.36.3? 1297032480 M * fLoo i'm running 2.6.36 no 1297032482 M * fLoo i'm running 2.6.36 now 1297032486 M * BenG okay 1297032507 M * BenG I will get on it with the i386 stuff, but trying to get the stuff I need going first 1297032519 M * fLoo okay 1297032536 M * fLoo lemme create a vserver shortly 1297032541 M * fLoo and then try using cgroups 1297032796 M * fLoo root@devlg:~# vserver vserver1 start 1297032796 M * fLoo Using makefile-style concurrent boot in runlevel 3. 1297032796 M * fLoo Starting enhanced syslogd: rsyslogd. 1297032796 M * fLoo root@devlg:~# vserver-stat 1297032796 M * fLoo open(memory.usage_in_bytes): No such file or directory 1297032798 M * fLoo CTX PROC VSZ RSS userTIME sysTIME UPTIME NAME 1297032799 M * fLoo you see 1297032803 M * fLoo there you go 1297032848 M * BenG yuck 1297032877 M * BenG can you enter the server? 1297032882 M * fLoo yes 1297032983 M * BenG can you manually cat the relevant /dev/cgroup file? 1297033000 M * fLoo lemme reboot shortly 1297033008 M * fLoo so i can recheck 1297033110 M * fLoo no 1297033112 M * fLoo it doesnt exist 1297033119 M * BenG ahaaaaaaa 1297033121 M * fLoo neither in /dev/cgroup/ nor /dev/cgroup/vserver1 1297033128 M * BenG ahaaaaaaa 1297033132 M * fLoo i didnt even set cgroups yet for this vserver 1297033140 M * fLoo but vserver-stat is assuming so 1297033146 M * fLoo i havent had these problems with lenny 1297033175 M * BenG but util-vserver should mount /dev/cgroup correctly for you 1297033179 M * Bertl cgroups is a kernel build time decision 1297033181 M * fLoo it is mounted 1297033197 M * BenG but with which subsystems? 1297033202 M * Bertl i.e. you can either enable or disable them, but in case they are enabled, they will be used by util-vserver 1297033224 M * fLoo vserver /dev/cgroup cgroup cpuset,cpu,cpuacct,devices,freezer,net_cls 0 0 1297033225 M * Bertl enabling all subsystems except for the cgroup namespace should be fine 1297033233 M * fLoo thats what i' 1297033238 M * fLoo ve used in /etc/fstab 1297033242 M * fLoo everything exccept namesapce 1297033248 M * BenG fLoo, there's no memory subsystem in there though 1297033254 M * Bertl util-vserver normally mounts that for you 1297033264 M * Bertl i.e. no need to have it in fstab 1297033293 M * BenG Bertl, for a Debian user using the debian package that wouldn't be normal 1297033305 M * fLoo yup 1297033311 M * BenG though fLoo is now using his own anyway 1297033313 M * Bertl yeah, well, debian is different :) 1297033345 M * Bertl debian users are also supposed to use the broken 2.6.26 kernel 1297033349 M * BenG fLoo, remount the /dev/cgroup with the memory subsystem 1297033359 M * fLoo beng 1297033367 M * fLoo i suppose you update http://linux-vserver.org/util-vserver:Cgroups#using_cgroup_to_enforce_memory_limits then 1297033372 M * BenG either by removing you fstab line and rebooting, or by editing your /etc/fstab according 1297033372 M * fLoo its missing there too ;) 1297033417 M * BenG ah, that's completely out of date really 1297033453 M * BenG I think the Debian kernel has the legacy memory controls enabled, so missing out the memory subset would have been deliberate 1297033464 M * fLoo root@devlg:~# vserver-stat 1297033464 M * fLoo CTX PROC VSZ RSS userTIME sysTIME UPTIME NAME 1297033464 M * fLoo 42 3 18.4M 5.1M 0m00s00 0m00s00 0m02s40 vserver1 1297033465 M * fLoo works now 1297033467 M * fLoo insane 1297033477 M * fLoo ok one last thing to check, the cgroups 1297033524 M * BenG after changing the fstab fLoo? 1297033537 M * BenG i.e. is that when it started working 1297033552 M * fLoo yep, after adding memory to fstab it worked 1297033559 M * BenG great 1297033564 M * fLoo stupid that i didnt even noticed that by myself 1297033780 M * fLoo ok cgroup for memory works now 1297033795 M * fLoo VIRT_LOAD doesnt work at, while VIRT_UPTIME and VIRT_MEM do 1297033862 M * fLoo ok works now too 1297033950 M * fLoo thanks for your help BenG 1297033954 M * fLoo much appreciated 1297033986 M * BenG if you fancy updating the docs that would be great 1297033988 M * fLoo now switching back to 2.6.37 kernel 1297033997 M * fLoo BenG: i will do so for sure 1297034004 M * fLoo will do that tomorrow 1297034004 M * BenG I've added a short note to the ipage for now 1297034011 M * fLoo ok 1297034168 M * BenG I'm also packaging 2926 for i386 now 1297034174 M * fLoo ok cool 1297034436 M * BenG cheers all, nn 1297034438 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1297034768 Q * ghislain Quit: Leaving. 1297035331 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc12-aztw24-2-0-cust146.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1297036209 Q * bsingh Read error: Operation timed out 1297036403 M * BenG Bertl, now I have some oddness with my vserver setup 1297036418 M * BenG bucket:~# vserver ex386-squeeze enter 1297036427 M * BenG vlogin: fork(): Try again 1297036434 M * BenG seems to start randomly 1297036456 M * BenG I can't enter until I restart the guest at that point 1297036490 M * BenG 2.6.36.2-vs2.3.0.36.38.2 - am compiling a newer kernel and patch in case its a known issue 1297036517 M * Bertl yep, upgrade the kernel/patch, it's a known issue 1297036530 M * BenG that's a relief 1297036549 M * BenG :) 1297036551 M * BenG laters 1297036553 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1297036766 J * bsingh ~balbir@122.172.22.246