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1296809717 J * swenTjuln ~kvirc@77.111.2.36
1296809756 M * swenTjuln since we all herd it, I wonder.....is VServer IPV6 production ready?
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1296810574 M * daniel_hozac i've been using it in production for years.
1296810992 M * daniel_hozac heard what, btw?
1296811029 J * mike mike@no.phear.eu
1296811336 M * swenTjuln daniel_hozac: IPV4 is depleeted
1296811365 M * swenTjuln http://www.nro.net/news/ipv4-free-pool-depleted
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1296820744 J * coredumb ~AndChat@213.55.131.87
1296820776 M * coredumb Hello
1296820876 M * coredumb I plan doing a vserver host with suse sles 11, does that sound tottaly silly to you or there shouldn't be any problems?
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1296821471 M * daniel_hozac coredumb: i'm not aware of anyone doing SuSE... so you're probably going to have to do quite a few things manually.
1296821593 M * coredumb Oh
1296821638 M * coredumb Btw if it's only compiling kernel and utils...
1296821674 M * Wonka .oO( I know a Suse I'd like to do... )
1296821742 M * coredumb Lol
1296821798 M * daniel_hozac assuming you don't want to run SuSE guests, then sure, it won't be much of an issue.
1296821835 M * daniel_hozac but to run SuSE guests, you'll basically have to create them yourself. there is no support in util-vserver. i did a test patch for OpenSuSE 11, but didn't receive any feedback on it.
1296821877 M * coredumb daniel_hozac: well there may be some actually, but the main target is rhel guests
1296821895 M * Wonka I'd create guests of foreign distributions via installing one in a VirtualBox or something, drop everything hardware related and tar it up
1296821896 M * coredumb And well i can spend some time doing my template
1296821910 M * Wonka then create a guest with that and sort out the rest
1296821998 M * coredumb well i guess suse can be installed like rh/fed/centos with a yum --root equivalent
1296821999 M * daniel_hozac Wonka: right, but that's... painful. especially these days when everyone seems to think that rewriting init to do funky stuff is sooo cool.
1296822007 M * coredumb Should simplify the task
1296822127 M * daniel_hozac FWIW, http://people.linux-vserver.org/~dhozac/p/uv/experimental/opensuse10.2-config.tar.gz was what i started on.
1296822146 M * coredumb Ok i'll check that
1296822179 M * Wonka daniel_hozac: but with the correct setting for init, it should finally be doable
1296822247 M * daniel_hozac Wonka: sure, but upstart etc. require you to fiddle with a ton of files to properly vserver-ize.
1296822277 M * daniel_hozac since they all require hardware-related things.
1296822282 M * coredumb daniel_hozac: i guess there'll be quite some different stuff between opensuse 10 and sles 11
1296822309 M * coredumb I'll check and see if it's not easier/more reliable on centos
1296822315 M * coredumb ...
1296823566 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1296823571 M * Bertl morning folks!
1296823607 M * Bertl coredumb: you originally said SuSE _host_ did you mean that or was it more like host _and_ guest with SuSE?
1296823649 M * coredumb Hi Bertl 
1296823819 M * coredumb Well it's definitely to have it as host, and while guests will be for a good while rhel guests, i'll have suse guests too in the future
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1296827421 M * hijacker_ fellows, anyone has seen that and might know how to resolve it when trying to build a fedora guest under debian host:
1296827425 M * hijacker_ ERROR: Can not find configuration for the distribution 'deb6.0';
1296827425 M * hijacker_   please read http://linux-vserver.org/HowToRegisterNewDistributions
1296827425 M * hijacker_   for information how to add support for your own distribution.
1296827925 M * hijacker_ Kernel: 2.6.32-5-vserver-amd64 && util-vserver: 0.30.216-pre2926; Feb  4 2011, 13:47:17
1296827984 M * julius I just read an article about lxc - would you mind setting it in relation to linux-vserver for me? :)
1296828332 M * Bertl well, LXC is the mainline reimplementation fo Linux-VServer and similar OS Level Isolation technologies almost 10 years after Linux-VServer was started
1296828372 M * Bertl it is very 'young' and doesn't provide all the features required to run a secure and easily maintainable container (yet)
1296828412 M * Bertl we use whatever LXC provides (the working parts at least) in Linux-VServer on recent kernels, reducing the size of the already quite small Linux-VServer patch
1296828493 M * Bertl at some point (so we hope) Linux-VServer will be reduced to userspace tools (probably util-vserver) doing all the magic with 'just' a mainline kernel .. but I guess that will take a few more years
1296828534 M * Bertl hijacker_: when you are building fedora, where does util-vserver get the deb6.0 from?
1296828536 M * julius okay - thank you :)
1296828558 M * Bertl np, if you have specific questions, feel free to ask :)
1296828659 M * hijacker_ Bertl, I have no idea
1296828662 M * hijacker_ how can I check ?
1296828688 M * mnemoc julius: write a page in the wiki about LXC relation to vserver :)
1296828720 M * julius mnemoc: hehe - not now…
1296828726 M * Bertl hijacker_: to start with, what is your build command?
1296828731 M * mnemoc julius: :(
1296828772 M * hijacker_ i have built only one debian guest on that host
1296828772 M * julius Bertl: I was just interested in the vserver point of view…
1296828782 M * hijacker_ Bertl, there I go: vserver fedora13 build -m yum --context 13 --hostname=fedora13  --interface eth0:192.168.0.178/20 --verbose  -- -d f13
1296828789 M * Bertl the interesting part is that the LXC project seems already dead when I judge from the IRC activity (trying since 5 days to reach anybody who knows anything about it :)
1296828811 M * julius okay o.o
1296828819 M * Bertl what's at  in there?
1296828841 M * julius well - there's an article in the "linux magazine" - so I guess it's got some attention that could keep it alive
1296828887 M * Bertl Xen has _one_ article too, and they were able to convince everybody that this is the future, so yeah, marketing might help :)
1296828931 M * julius got a point there
1296829292 M * Bertl hijacker_: you sure that you are using the proper util-vserver and/or your system is not messed up somehow? I just tried your command here (without the strange A characters of course) and firstly it complains about not knowing any --verbose, but after removing that it would install properly, but fails (here) to locate the fedora repository
1296829337 M * hijacker_ what is that A?
1296829357 M * Bertl I have no idea, you pasted it here ...
1296829362 M * hijacker_ my installation might be broken, as i had util-vserver installed from the debian repo
1296829379 M * hijacker_ okay, i will type it instead of pasting
1296829432 M * Bertl http://irc.13thfloor.at/LOG/2011-02/LOG_2011-02-04.txt (this is what I see :)
1296829499 M * hijacker_ Bertl, i retyped now it seems fine ;-) lool
1296829514 M * hijacker_ it complains about /etc/rpm non-existent. but I will deal with this
1296829522 M * hijacker_ sorry for bothering ;-)
1296829529 M * Bertl normal for debian (the rpm part)
1296829554 M * Bertl so lesson learned: don't trust a broken (utf?) clipboard :)
1296829568 M * hijacker_ i must have copied some stuff from somewhere and it got broken inbetween ;-)
1296829569 M * hijacker_ aye
1296829570 M * hijacker_ ;-)
1296829588 M * hijacker_  Current charset: UTF-8
1296829599 M * Bertl but note, the --verbose is not supposed to work there
1296829609 M * hijacker_ yeah, i removed the --verbose part
1296829625 M * hijacker_ maybe it was there for the old util-vserver that came packaged in debian
1296829694 M * Bertl possible ... okay, off to grab some groceries ...
1296829700 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
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1296829754 M * coredumb Bertl_oO: i thought you had comments on suse :P
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1296848106 M * cundp Nabend Zusammen
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1296848972 M * cundp hello^^
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1296849949 M * Bertl_oO hello cundp!
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1296855871 M * ryker taking off for about 15 minutes.   need to drop my daughter off for driving lessons.
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