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~irc-ensc@p5DF2B786.dip.t-dialin.net 1292134848 J * bsingh ~balbir@122.172.29.132 1292135650 Q * bsingh Read error: Connection reset by peer 1292135741 Q * ensc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1292135763 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p5DF2B786.dip.t-dialin.net 1292136262 Q * ensc Remote host closed the connection 1292136281 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p5DF2B786.dip.t-dialin.net 1292137379 J * bsingh ~balbir@122.172.45.181 1292138917 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! 1292138921 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1292141257 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@p54B026F9.dip.t-dialin.net 1292141895 J * petzsch ~markus@p4FF43D69.dip.t-dialin.net 1292141980 Q * petzsch 1292143834 Q * bsingh Read error: Connection reset by peer 1292143991 J * BenG ~bengreen@cpc2-aztw22-2-0-cust83.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com 1292144686 J * bsingh ~balbir@122.172.159.52 1292144954 J * manana ~mayday090@84.17.25.149 1292145766 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1292146548 M * BenG anyone here ever done mount --move 1292146555 M * BenG inside a vserver guest? 1292146572 M * BenG I just wrote the mailing list, it doesn't seem to work 1292147131 Q * ensc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1292147166 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p5DF2B786.dip.t-dialin.net 1292147511 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1292147528 Q * bsingh Read error: Connection reset by peer 1292147686 Q * ensc Remote host closed the connection 1292148379 J * bsingh ~balbir@122.172.46.88 1292149391 Q * BenG Quit: I Leave 1292151375 J * Piet ~Piet__@82VAAASZ8.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1292152573 J * ktwilight_ ~keliew@91.176.162.100 1292152800 Q * ktwilight Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1292158517 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1292158522 M * Bertl morning folks! 1292159380 J * eyck_ ~eyck@77.79.198.66 1292159397 Q * eyck Read error: Connection reset by peer 1292160287 J * selim ~chatzilla@e181071156.adsl.alicedsl.de 1292160473 P * selim 1292160474 J * jfst ~jfs@ip-80-236-230-236.dsl.scarlet.be 1292160524 J * jfstr ~jfs@ip-80-236-230-236.dsl.scarlet.be 1292161757 Q * bsingh Read error: Connection reset by peer 1292161984 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:215:f2ff:fee0:9872 1292162193 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@pD9577408.dip.t-dialin.net 1292162693 J * bsingh ~balbir@122.172.35.96 1292162831 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1292163412 J * derjohn_mob aj@tmo-038-219.customers.d1-online.com 1292163490 M * Bertl off for now ... bbl 1292163494 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1292165424 J * niki ~niki@188.228.10.177 1292166970 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1292167062 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@p54B0345C.dip.t-dialin.net 1292167364 J * derjohn_foo ~aj@pD9577ED4.dip.t-dialin.net 1292167598 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1292167826 Q * bsingh Read error: Connection reset by peer 1292168693 J * bsingh ~balbir@122.167.249.104 1292169790 Q * derjohn_foo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1292170466 Q * matti Quit: 8-X 1292173127 J * petzsch ~markus@dslb-088-075-172-189.pools.arcor-ip.net 1292176091 Q * bsingh Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1292176880 J * bsingh ~balbir@122.167.249.104 1292179136 J * ott ~ott@2001:5c0:1400:a::2ed 1292179189 M * ott Does Linux VServer support IPSec (e.g. strongSwan) inside a guest? 1292180203 Q * bsingh Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1292182146 J * derjohn_foo aj@80.187.147.61 1292184958 J * cuba33ci_ ~cuba33ci@111-240-205-247.dynamic.hinet.net 1292185275 M * ard ott: ipsec must be handled by the ipstack... 1292185305 M * ard this means in the usual installation it is handled by the host... 1292185311 Q * cuba33ci Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1292185321 N * cuba33ci_ cuba33ci 1292185334 M * ard you can however set up a network namespace to do the ipsec as a helper vserver /process 1292185388 M * ard so you set up a network namespace and give a guest within that namespace the rights to control ipsec, and make it route network further or into another guest without privileges 1292187148 M * ott ard: Does that mean that the process which manages the IPSec connections (e.g. strongSwan) would have to run inside the host and inside the guest, so that IPSec would only be provided to the guest? 1292187225 M * ott ard: I'm especially asking this, because I only have control over the guest system and don't expect or want my provider to run the IPSec daemon for me. 1292187511 Q * niki Quit: Ex-Chat 1292187686 M * ser i have a system with lot of vservers and filesystems. how can i check if a particular (xfs) filesystem is mounted? imho xfs_info does not provide this information 1292188283 M * ard ott: if you have a provider - customer relation and you do want to do ipsec, you *must* have a networknamespace with full control over the ipstack in that networknamespace 1292188326 M * ard with normal vserver setups IP is handled by the host, and the guest get's a filter on the hosts ipstack 1292188403 M * ard a network namespace is just a completely new ipstack, and the provider can set it up so you can control the ipstack, and the provider doesn't really have to care about it, except for firewalling. 1292188403 M * ott ard: I don't think a provider would grant such control. I'll stick tun based VPNs then. 1292188476 M * ard the network namespace is there to provide you with a seperate ipstack... It's up to the provider how that ipstack is connected to the interwebs ;-) 1292188483 M * ott ard: So a full control over our own namespace with a full IP stack wouldn't affect the other guest, because they use a different namespace? 1292188492 M * ard yes :-) 1292188501 M * ard network namespace 1292188540 M * ard it would probably allow you to move your virtual device out of the network namespace, but that's a one way trip 1292188572 M * ard As a provider myself I just hand out guests without network namespaces, but it is on my list to do next 1292188622 M * ard on my daytime job (me being an ISP infra hosting whatever techie, not a provider) I setup tunnelservers with seperate ipstacks 1292188632 M * ott Are there any other security implications which could prevent the provider to hand out an unrestricted network namespace? 1292188633 M * ard or general vservers with seperate ipstack per DMZ 1292188673 M * ard well, the biggest security issue I can think of is that you can move your network device into another namespace 1292188718 M * ard maybe that is something that can be prevented... 1292188751 M * ard I was never in a situation I have to give somebody else full control over an ipstack within a network namespace 1292188847 M * ard I cannot think of any other issues than just that 1292188896 M * ard anyway: giving away ones network device just removes any means of ip communication with that vserver 1292189303 M * ott At least it seems to be possible. I'll try to read more about this, do a test setup on my machine and then ask the provider about this. Thanks for the help. 1292189369 M * ard I've mailed something about that in the mailinglist 1292189381 M * ard you need util-vserver svn2916 at least to make it work 1292189540 M * ott Hmm, are sure? r2916: Add postrm script for util-vserver-legacy. 1292189693 M * ard Well, somewhere between 2912 and 2916 are important fixes :-) 1292189787 Q * manana Remote host closed the connection 1292190503 J * matti matti@acrux.romke.net 1292191033 J * neutrino ~neutrino@209.106.18.95.dynamic.jazztel.es 1292191599 Q * petzsch Quit: Leaving. 1292194656 Q * hparker Quit: Quit 1292195166 Q * derjohn_foo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1292195659 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1292196010 J * serkanca ~serkanca@78.179.64.29 1292196082 M * serkanca hi, i'm starting guest and after one minute it goes down 1292196086 M * serkanca any ide? 1292196092 M * serkanca idea? 1292196980 Q * serkanca Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1292197732 J * derjohn_foo aj@88.128.70.134 1292197820 J * hparker ~hparker@2001:470:1f0f:32c:215:f2ff:fee0:9872